Girl called me ugliest man in the room

raithespaceknight · Nov 14, 2019

Ive been at college for a few months. Lots of cute girls but none have showed me interest. One guy said I looked like an incel and the hottest girl on campus started laughing. Ive texted a few girls but they never respond or reply with "Im busy" multiple times in a row. I get only a few tinder matches and they all flake or dont respond. I dont think any of these tips on this website work for ugly guys

Tony D · Nov 14, 2019

Pickup was developed for ugly guys so they could get hot girls too. I've coaching loads of men who figured they were ugly. Most are just insecure, which is worse than being ugly.

Jesse · Nov 14, 2019

Sloppy grooming, lazy posture, "blend in with the crowd" boring clothes that aren't cool... that'll all kill you more than you're "inherent looks".

....Unless you're missing an eye and a leg and look like a salty pirate.

Mr.Rob · Nov 14, 2019

raithespaceknight said:
One guy said I looked like an incel and the hottest girl on campus started laughing

You should be bowing down to kiss the hand of that guy then. He gave you genuine honest feedback. Most people just think that without saying it and leaving you clueless to your own weakness/faults.

Alright you look like an unattractive incel. This probably because you dress like an incel. Carry yourself like an incel. Communicate like an incel. Have the confidence of an incel. And so Forth.

Well that's bloody good news! You have the power to change ALL of those things. "How to improve your fundamentals"

Maybe you can start to dress like an attractive guy. Carry yourself like an attractive guy. Speak like an attractive guy. Have the confidence of an attractive guy.

Then all of a sudden after 1-2 years of working on upgrading yourself... all of a sudden YOU ARE AN ATTRACTIVE GUY :O

The real question is are you willing to put in the effort to deserve to be that guy?

Jesse · Nov 14, 2019

Mr.Rob said:
The real question is are you willing to put in the effort to deserve to be that guy?

Heeeeeeell no.

What's the ONE LINE that will make her mine??

raithespaceknight · Nov 14, 2019

Tony D said:
Pickup was developed for ugly guys so they could get hot girls too. I've coaching loads of men who figured they were ugly. Most are just insecure, which is worse than being ugly.

Being insecure and ugly are different things

raithespaceknight · Nov 14, 2019

Jesse said:
Sloppy grooming, lazy posture, "blend in with the crowd" boring clothes that aren't cool... that'll all kill you more than you're "inherent looks".

....Unless you're missing an eye and a leg and look like a salty pirate.

What clothes should i wear then i doubt that will change my face

Skills · Nov 14, 2019

Most guys with this type of post are usually coping, let me explain what i mean by that... Becoming the most attractive YOU. in other words maximaxing your personal attractiveness it is a lot of hard work that most people are not willing to do. Ex.- going to the barber weekly, working out, watching your food intake, face creams before going to sleep, tracking and changing to a stereotypical cool style, it is a lot of hard work. It is just easier to say "i am ugly" no advice apply to me. That way you win 2 ways, you do not have to go out and follow any seduction proven advice and face the rejection cause "i am ugly" and win number 2 you do not have to do what is required for fundamentals...... So jerking off, complaining, and video games, plus not facing rejection way easier, i would be in to. I hope you get my point!

DarkKnight · Nov 14, 2019

Problem is you are already not believing that change is possible so everyone reacts with skeptisicm/ sarcasm. We all just assume that you haven't maximized your own attractiveness. Reread Mr.Robs post, he is trying to help, but keep an open mind. Also ignore the harshness of posters, its just that we havr seen this situation too many times.

Jesse · Nov 15, 2019

raithespaceknight said:
What clothes should i wear then i doubt that will change my face

Just for reference, this year in 2019 I've spent about $500 on boots, $1,500 on dress clothes, and hundreds more (another $1,000 about?) on grooming products. Sounds excessive, perhaps? Maybe you can't spend that kind of money, but that's the level of seriousness you have to think about in throwing yourself at this problem. Because if random people look at you and think "Incel", then you're totally fucked at the most fundamental of levels and need to take drastic action to fix it.

So, what should you wear and do...

Imagine terrorists have taken your parents and siblings hostage at gunpoint. They're going to start slow torturing them and sexually molesting them with weird giant dildos. UNLESS... in two weeks you can send a picture of yourself dressed REALLY FUCKING COOL and well groomed. You have just two weeks, or its over for them.

Act accordingly. What do you think your very next step is, and when do you think you should take your next steps.

Mr.Rob · Nov 15, 2019

Jesse said:
Imagine terrorists have taken your parents and siblings hostage at gunpoint. They're going to start slow torturing them and sexually molesting them with weird giant dildos. UNLESS... in two weeks you can send a picture of yourself dressed REALLY FUCKING COOL and well groomed.

Haha this is it!... or prison rape lol

But in all seriousness OP Jesse makes a good point. You should go do that and post an imgur post with your selfies and we'll give u some feedback to improve.

But ya gotta drop the victim card. Its a loser mentality. Winners find a way even if there seemingly is no way.

Its part of being a man. Boys do what feels good in the moment. Men divise a plan and follow it through.

Choose wisely. We're happy to help you if your willing to help yourself.

Mondo · Nov 15, 2019

You can go from "incel" to "who is this guy?" with fundamentals alone. It's time you put in the work son! It becomes a part of you once you've done it long enough. You don't even think about things like eye contact or standing up straight. You just do it.

Your face is a tool. An ugly face can still make good eye contact, confident smirks, and slow dirty smiles. A girl will be thinking why is this guy so confident? In some ways it helps. I have a male model 10 as a friend. And he gets resistance all the time, like "omg you must be a player" or girls just being weird around him.

Next to him sometimes I feel invisible haha, but guess what? I've often ended up with the hotter girl when gaming with him. Looks don't stand up to heart boy. It's time you man up and give yourself a chance.

Starboy · Nov 15, 2019

raithespaceknight said:
Ive been at college for a few months. Lots of cute girls but none have showed me interest. One guy said I looked like an incel and the hottest girl on campus started laughing. Ive texted a few girls but they never respond or reply with "Im busy" multiple times in a row. I get only a few tinder matches and they all flake or dont respond. I dont think any of these tips on this website work for ugly guys

I'm kinda suprised that some guys really went out of there way to insult you like that and a girl even laughed at you. People are usually more respectful in colleges unless you're going to a community college? But if you are getting all this negative feedback then that can be a sign that you need to change and improve yourself. Style your hair in an attractive presentable way,grow your beard to look neat if you can get one,get a barber to trim your eyebrows if they look weird,dress in more respectable looking clothes. Go to the gym workout,get a part time job preferably in a environment with other young people like a summer camp, retail,or fast food so you can practice socializing with other people which will help you build your confidence and earn money which also makes you feel good. Get a personal mirror and practice different impressions and expressions that you can do so that you don't give off the vibe off a bitter,depressed incel. Basically just improve your fundamentals across the board. It's definetly doable and not that hard to be respected by people once you start building your way up. I used to think I was a ugly dude because I was never told by any girls I was cute until I finished my first yr of college and met some girls at a summer camp which was a big suprise for me to hear. That could be the case for you. You just gotta be willing to change and must have the ambition to be a guy who can get girls and doesn't want to stay being the loser that people around him percieve him to be. You can be a baller someday. It's ok to start from the bottom. As long as you take small steps to get better in life. I believe in you bro.

raithespaceknight · Nov 15, 2019

Skills said:
Most guys with this type of post are usually coping, let me explain what i mean by that... Becoming the most attractive YOU. in other words maximaxing your personal attractiveness it is a lot of hard work that most people are not willing to do. Ex.- going to the barber weekly, working out, watching your food intake, face creams before going to sleep, tracking and changing to a stereotypical cool style, it is a lot of hard work. It is just easier to say "i am ugly" no advice apply to me. That way you win 2 ways, you do not have to go out and follow any seduction proven advice and face the rejection cause "i am ugly" and win number 2 you do not have to do what is required for fundamentals...... So jerking off, complaining, and video games, plus not facing rejection way easier, i would be in to. I hope you get my point!

Ive been told that before did all those things(except buy expensive clothes) nothing has changed
I still go to the gym 3 times a week

Skills · Nov 15, 2019

raithespaceknight said:
Ive been told that before did all those things(except buy expensive clothes) nothing has changed
I still go to the gym 3 times a week

for how long????"tried" is not trying is something that is consistent till it becomes internalized, habit and automatic and btw you do not need to buy expensive clothes to be stylish.... You can get the same cool styles from h and m and the likes...

DarkKnight · Nov 15, 2019

You dont have to buy expensive clothes, just cool clothes. I wear the same 60 dollar shoes for two years, nobody cares. About the gym, are you training alone or in a group setting? With a schedule or just solo.

You know what I find really sad. Guys like you who have nothing wrong with them lose for all the wrong reasons. But I don't blame you some people just have a head start because of background factors. Seriously follow the Girlschase articles, lose the victim mentality and build yourself up. You're future self will thank you for it. You will even notice that those unfriendly people are not that great themselves and lose in fundamentals against you. Trust me its not unrealistic. Just blindly follow the articles on fundamentals for now.

flatron · Nov 15, 2019

So you weren't her type. Move on to the next girl. Find the ones who think you're not ugly. They're out there.
A really hot girl rejected me pretty harsh and called me a 2/10 last weekend after I opened her lmao. It happens. Next!

fog · Nov 16, 2019

people called me ugly all throughout middle school, high school, and beyond

i thought it was true - for years, it made me think i was unworthy of women.

but then i started thinking otherwise. because id improved my fundamentals and noticed girls were more attracted to me. how can i be ugly if girls are attracted to me? then it snowballed from there.

work on making yourself an attractive man, inside and out. thats what you need to do.

Pitcher · Nov 16, 2019

If you actually want a more attractive face, practice mindfulness meditation. Put a gentle smile on your face as you practice. Relax your face.

Do you mouth breathe? Breath deep yet softly through your nose, all the way down into your diaphragm.

You can practice mewing too (though I have minimal experience with it).

Practice facial expressions in a mirror at home/in the dorms. Practice your smile. Practice smiling slowly. Practice letting a big old grin shine on your face. Happy people are beautiful people.

Looks are 20% of seduction/game at MAX though. Like exercise is only 20% of having an awesome beach body. Your diet is 80%.

At least 80% of seduction/game is what GC teaches: fundamentals, strategy, attitudes, tactics, charisma, being sexual, and taking action to build reference experiences and social intelligence.

Cody Lyans · Nov 19, 2019

raithespaceknight said:
Being insecure and ugly are different things

I once was obese and quite unhealthy. I had game... And ha man did I ever get shit when I approached... Snickers and polite nos and stuff and I couldn't turn it cuz the body language and face expression I used to use were cut off from being effective.

My advice, DON'T BE ANOTHER SET BACK
define what you need
So for example I need less than 20% body fat
I need to look healthy and vital so salads and gym
I need a bit of swagger so I can not just sit and empathize with EVERY girl. I have to be a little bit unreasonable..

BUT I DON'T SAY TO MYSELF I NEED 0% BODY FAT, PERFECT SKIN, AND TO BE A RAGING DOUCHE
That is not the actual defining line of where my ability starts to kick in

You need to find your own personal LINE you have to be past to work your stuff
Yes you can't be a slob, but the practical solution is not to be a God. It's to get to the tipping point

If you fear getting to the tipping point there are ways.... But Id have to see you to tell you if it was even necessary

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