The reason for meeting kids is such a terrible idea is cause it will actually delay or even kill the whole attraction/bedding etc....
No, it just requires another set of skills that isn't advocated on these forums. When done right most women will still find you attractive whether the kid is with them or not. Yes, it can ruin logistics but NOT attraction. When women are attracted they will arrange a time for bedding.
]Most girls are not really looking for a father to their kids, most kids have their father,)....
Most women want a relationship with a man who could get along with their kids NOT be a father.
and most women (specially the well adjusted ones, would never in a million years introduce the kids to a new guy)....
And yet women get remarried, have boyfriends meet their kids etc. They will introduce their kids to who they feel is the RIGHT guy.
The reason why forums are TERRIBLE to turn fwb relationship to something more is cause, most of us to do NOT WANT, something more....
And yet this is EXACTLY what the OP said he wanted from the girl:
You said: what do YOU want with/from her?
What I want from her is a relationship, she has huge goals to build a business like I am.
But if we wanted something more the best way is still to this day having multiple women competing, it never changes that is the best strategy....
Best strategy for a PARTICULAR SUBSET of women
Every long term relationship i ever got, it came from women competing against each other.... Everytime without fail that my strategy changed to focus on 1 women it totally did not work, and i did not lay the girls....
Same as to @ieatapples, please define "long term"
No offense @Skills, but you say so yourself that you "do NOT WANT, something more" so I'm assuming that your definition of "long term" is much shorter than mine. And since you aren't interested in "something more", you've never developed skills from this side.
Teevester has a million posts explaining the way is better to come accross as a lover no matter the circumstances and he is right (though he is not good at ltr, i am and i can tell you i totally agree with him)......
While I think @Teevster is a fantastic guy, he has zero interest in relationships and also never developed these skills, so is hardly an authority on this aspect
When you sell "let me meet your kid" you just advertise in the super ball "i am a provider, not a lover, but a guy looking for an ltr" this in turn, makes women look harder and over analyse your QUALIFICATIONS, and start looking and nitpiking for any flows, when you come across as a lover it never happens..... Then when you combine that with "courtship" activities it totally will dry her vagina.....
Please don't twist what I wrote to mean something that I didn't say.
It's not as black & white as you think it is, where you are either a provider or lover. How do you know it can't be both in differing amounts?
I KNOW this from several natural friends who radiate both provider and lover, they also hook girls immediately for sex on the first night/date and the girls want them for long term relationships
There could be a million reasons why the girl is "pulling away" and the op not having a "kid/son" strategy has little to nothing to do with this.... While the atmostphere and lack of momentum in part due to a crazy never seen unpredictable stressful crisis may be or it could even be that the op has lost the window of opportunity that he has.... But i am more on the bet that is that the target just realized that he wants something "serious" and the op got "needy" and she ran to not send mix messages, women are horrible at rejecting they just give hints.
And yet she keeps replying back and also hinted at going on another date after the current crisis.