4 approaches 30 days (Chase 30 day challenge)

Hey guys I consider myself to be an intermediate in Game. Especially daygame as I have had a few successes and quite a significant number of approaches under my belt. But I have never been consistent and always stopped approaching when I found a girl to have a relationship/mini-relationship with. So I never have internalized an abundance mentality and never feel at ease with my dating options. Even now, I am seeing a hot girl I met on the street but I feel I am over investing and have given up seriously approaching.

So now I am taking up Chase's challenge of approaching 4 girls per day for 30 days. I want to see this through to the end regardless of how many girls I meet or date or what happens with the girl I am seeing. Doing this for myself and for my skills and my future, to develop an abundance mentality, to actually finish something I start and gain confidence in myself and improve my resilience and grit. I am posting here as I will be doing it alone so I want to be accountable here and post about my approaches every day.

It would be great if anyone else who wants to do the challenge or is already doing the challenge can let me know so we can read each other's reports and keep each other accountable. Thanks

Day 1
The total of 4 approaches took 1hr and 28 minutes as I switched on the stopwatch as soon as I hit the streets. It was already almost sunset by the time I went out today. Wore a black polo shirt, jeans and a leather jacket and strolled out.

I have not been approaching consistently so was very rusty and had quite a lot of AA. The first approach took me almost 38 minutes to do.

1st Approach- A girl with long and fancy dreadlocks. Saw her walking in the mall and then she stepped out for a smoke. I went out and pretended to be busy on my phone and did the hover for about 5-7 seconds until she noticed presence. I then walked up to her and asked if she spoke English and she said that she did and then I complimented her on her dreadlocks and did a cold read that she must be from some exotic island. She chuckled and said she was from Sweden. I was nervous and just bantered and we spoke about what she did in the town and where I was from etc. Basic small talk and then she finished her smoke and said she had to get going. I was happy that I had made the first approach and warmed up a bit and I said goodbye and left.

2nd Approach- Was at a train station. She was sitting on a bench and I sat next to her and she immediately looked up and I opened with a cold read of where she was from. I got it wrong but she opened up immediately and we started talking. This was better though I still feel I was not projecting much sexual intent. But I was calmer and we bantered a bit and then I did some very light teasing which made her laugh and at one point she said that she was a bit odd when I teased her about something. We had spoken about her favorite drinks and I used that and said lets catch up for a drink sometime and she said yes and I got her number. I bantered for a while longer and then left.

3rd Approach- Was a really cute girl standing at the same train station. Did the hover and caught her noticing my presence and then I opened with something low key about how they changed the main entrance of the train station and the inconvenience it has caused. As soon as she commented on it quickly did a cold read guessing she was Russian, I was wrong but it hooked her and we entered into a conversation. She did not speak good English and I had to repeat myself sometimes to make her understand. She said she spoke German and I practiced my basic German on her and she laughed but by then her friend arrived and she said she had to hurry and left.

4th Approach- Was another girl at a bus stop. Did the hover and opened with a compliment but she did not speak any English I still tried to kind of continue the conversation but she was very self-conscious of her lack of English and continued to apologize that she could not understand what I was saying, so I ejected.

It was a good start. Still have to build momentum and get back to being comfortable in order to do teases, push-pulls, be more audacious etc. Will work on them in the coming days!

Day 2

Did the approaches in about an hour and a half.

1st Approach- Again it took around 25 minutes to make my first approach. She was a cute girl at the bus stop and I used the hover but there were a lot of people around and I was too afraid to approach so waited for a while and then finally approached with a cold read that she looked Russian and she said no but that she gets that a lot due to her blond hair. I said she looked like a Russian spy in a secret agent movie and that got a chuckle out of her. Her English was not the best but I continued the conversation and slowly she warmed up a bit but still was not very comfortable speaking in English. We spoke about her work and her interests etc. and this being my first approach of the day I was quite rusty. Then her friend arrived and she left.

2nd Approach- Was a girl sitting near the river with headphones on. I had to walk a long way to go up to her and so I did not want to corner her with a strong opener, so I just asked her to take a pic of me and she did. She then asked me to check if it was any good. I said that’s alright I live here anyway and that I just wanted to take a pic as it was a beautiful evening and then did a cold read of her nationality and it was right, and the convo hooked. I was not feeling it with her and I tried a few spikes but it kind of fell flat and I could not make the conversation flirty and it was more logical. This continued for a while and her body language, eye contact etc. clearly told me I was not getting anywhere with her and we did not have any connection so I excused myself and left.

3rd Approach- Was a girl on a bike who was waiting by the bike lane. Went up to her and opened with a compliment on her look and she was surprised and smiled and thanked me and I performed a cold read about her nationality and then she immediately asked me a question. But in her response I immediately sensed that she is flattered but not single and hence knows that this cannot go anywhere. Something about her politeness made me feel this and I was right. We bantered a bit and she was a singer and told me a bit about herself. However, then she told me she was on her way to meet her boyfriend and friends and that she has to go and we bid goodbye to each other.

4th Approach- I saw this woman from afar and thought she was too old but then when I got closer I saw she was maybe in her thirties but she seemed to have a great ass. She started walking and it was by the river. It was already dark and it was kind of an isolated spot so I knew I had to be careful and calibrate with my approach. I wanted to approach her when she was stationary so I walked behind her for a few seconds. But she heard my footsteps and looked back and we made eye contact so I knew I had to approach now or it would be creepy so I opened and she did not hear me. It got more awkward so I just ran up beside her and opened asking if she spoke English but she was wary and I think already a bit uncomfortable so she just said no turned her face away and quickened her pace so I let it go.

Day 3

Today I could not strictly keep time as I bumped into a friend during the session and spent some time talking to him and also the girl I have been seeing had texted me that she wanted to go on a short walk as she was in the part of town where I live. I had planned to finish the 4 approaches before meeting her but I could not. I did 3 approaches before and one after going on a walk with her.

1st Approach- It still did take me quite a while to do the first approach. Maybe around 20-25 mins. And it was not a good one but I did it just to get it out of the way. Near the river a blonde woman was walking by and she was not really that pretty but I stopped her and asked her to take a pic of me by the river and she did. I then tried to segue into a conversation but she did not see to be up for it so I let her go.

2nd Approach- She was sitting by the bench near the river. Luckily all other benches were taken so I sat on the bench next to her and she looked up and I asked if she minded me sitting on the bench and she smiled and said no. I then just continued describing how beautiful I think the river and the background looked this evening and also used a false time constraint telling her I am waiting for my friend to arrive and he should be here in 10 minutes. I then did a cold read guessing where she was from, I got it wrong and she was from Mongolia. I bantered a bit but she seemed extremely shy and from up close I noticed she had a lot of acne and was not that pretty. I still kept the conversation going for another 2 mins but it was forced and she was not giving anything in return so I just looked at my phone and told her that by friend had arrived and that I had to go and wished her a good evening and left.

3rd Approach- Changed location and went to a busier part of town. Saw a cute girl with blonde hair smoking outside the train station. Hovered for just 2 seconds and opened asking if she spoke English and then just enquired whether I am at the main entrance to the train station as I was waiting for a friend and he told me to wait at the main entrance. As soon as she answered I cut that thread and did a cold read about her nationality and then made some assumptions about her line of study etc and got it right. She was an engineer. Teased her a bit about being nerdy and she started opening up a bit. She asked me where I am from and I asked her to guess but she said she was bad at it. I insisted and gave her a clue but she was taking too long so I just told her my nationality and then she asked me a few questions about myself. We talked for a bit more and then she said she had to go inside as her train was leaving and as she said that she seemed to pause a bit which now I think might have been maybe because she thought I would ask for her contact.

But I felt the connection was not great and she had kind of dirty nails and no nail polish and was a smoker as well. All negatives in my book so I did not go for the number and just said it was great talking to you and let her go. In hindsight I wonder if I should have just gone for the close and if I just assigned these reasons to avoid a rejection. Maybe next time I will just go for the close.

4th Approach- This was after going on a walk with the girl I am seeing. It was dark by then and I was in the downtown area. Saw a really cute girl with a camera walking slowly. Followed her for a bit until she turned on to a less crowded path and then walked up next to her and opened by complimenting her pants which were kind of unique. She smiled and thanked me and I then did a cold read of her nationality and it was wrong and then I just continued the conversation and started walking beside her. I suddenly realized she might think how long this guy is going to walk with her so I used a false time constraint and told her that I was going to meet my friend. We bantered a bit but she seemed not that open and was not contributing too much to the conversation but she was smiling and still responsive and was comfortable about me walking with her. But I did not really polarize I feel and the whole interaction was just small talk. When it came time for us to part ways again I did not go for the close because I felt there was not really a connection but again maybe next time I will just go for it to get into the habit of going for the close.

Was a good day and it has been 3 days in a row and I still have to develop an edge and I am being very platonic but as of now still battling AA and happy to have done the approaches.

Great stuff. Following.

Day 4

I had to meet my friend to work on a project for University at noon and I was afraid it would take up the whole day. So I decided to do my 4 approaches before noon. It was not the most ideal time as it was a Saturday and so less girls/people around that early. Still managed to do my 4 approaches in exactly 2 hours from 10am-noon. But the sets were not the best in terms of quality of girls or logistics.

1st Approach- I was waiting around for a long time to find a suitable girl. Finally went to the train station and saw a girl standing by herself went in and opened with asking if she spoke English and she spoke zero English, I tried to continue the conversation but could not so I ejected.

2nd Approach- She was standing on the tram stop and she had funky sneakers on. I used the hover for 5-10 seconds and then opened with a compliment about her sneakers and she smiled and we got into a conversation. I did a cold read, we bantered a bit she and slowly started opening up. She was studying to be a teacher for children with special needs and I used that to kind of deep dive and she spoke a bit more and asked me a couple of questions. Still there was no flirty vibe and did not seem to be going anywhere and then her friend arrived and she left.

3rd Approach- Saw a girl with cool earrings standing at a street corner waiting for a friend. Positioned myself next to her while pretending to be busy on my phone and then opened with a compliment about her earrings. Quickly realized she was a teenager and still in high school bantered a bit and ejected as I did not want to go any further with her.

4th Approach- It was already nearing the time I had to meet my friend so had to squeeze in another approach. As I was walking back I saw a girl walking ahead of me with blond hair. Caught up to her and opened with a cold read asking if she was from Scandinavia. I actually wanted to open with a compliment but I had nothing to compliment her on. She was kind of wearing workout clothes, nothing remarkable. But probably should have used “I just saw you and wanted to say hi” and then continued as that would have made by intention to meet her clear. But as my opener was asking if she was Scandinavian she just laughed and said no sorry and she thought that was all I wanted and before I could react any further she walked off and then I realized she had a Bluetooth in her ear and was on a call. But still my open should have been more direct I felt in this scenario.
So not the ideal time to do the approaches but still did them. And tomorrow I am meeting the girl I am seeing at noon and she will be at my place the whole day and also stay the night so I gotta do my approaches before that and that too on a Sunday. So I have to go in more direct and not miss sets to accomplish that tomorrow but looking forward to the challenge and then the feeling that I have deserved the relaxing time I am going to be having with the girl I am seeing.

(I also texted the girl whose number I got on day 1 and we are meeting for drinks today evening. She is not really that good looking but will go and have fun and see what happens )

Nice keep up the work. Look forward how the date went

Day 5

So the date the previous night with the girl did not go well in the sense that she was a very traditional, conservative Indian girl. And she was not that pretty as well and I did not feel very attracted to her and also no sexual connection. But we still had a good time albeit in a platonic way and for me it was good to spend 2 hrs with a girl on a Saturday evening that I just met 2 days ago off the street. Good for instilling abundance and that meeting girls is quite easy.

On Sunday I had to finish my approaches before half past noon as I was meeting the girl I am seeing and spending the rest of the day with her. So I headed out at 10:30 am and finished the 4 approaches in a little less than 2 hours.

1st Approach- Took almost 20 mins to do the first approach. Passed up on a couple of girls and creeped out a girl I was hoping to approach while walking behind her waiting for the right moment. Hahaha. So I ditched that.

Finally I approached a girl who was standing at a tram stop. Opened with a cold read and then stacked on it and said she looked like a character from a movie. She laughed and started replying. I complimented her on her glasses and then we got into a back and forth but there were a few pauses in the interaction but I still continued. However, then her friend arrived on the tram and she left.

2nd Approach- Walked behind a good looking blonde and then came up beside her and tried to open and she completely brushed me off. Just looked at me said no and continued walking. Ouch! That hurt. But to be honest I came in like a timid guy asking for money and not a confident guy who really believed that he had a shot with her so maybe I deserved that reaction.

3rd Approach- She was a hot girl maybe in her early thirties sitting on a bench. Went in and sat next to her and opened with saying I am just waiting for a friend who is really late, and asking her if she was waiting for a friend who was late as well. She smiled and started speaking and I did a cold read and made some assumptions about her which really did not seem to land. But she kind of opened up but it was still small talk. We spoke about learning languages, working in Europe etc. She lives in Cologne in Germany and was here to attend a wedding. I started talking about Berlin and how crazy the city is and suddenly things took a turn and before I realized she was describing the fetish culture in Cologne and Berlin and we were exchanging the wild sexual things we have seen or heard about in our lives etc. But it was not in a flirty way, I guess it was sex talk but we seemed to be discussing it in a platonic manner if that makes any sense lol! I did not know where to really lead this and she was here only for the wedding and then her friends arrived to pick her up in a car and she left abruptly.

4th Approach- I saw a cute looking girl standing next to a McDonald’s near a bus stop. Used the hover and then went in and did a cold read and kind of got into a conversation. But within a minute she got a call and had to leave.

(I spent the rest of the day having sex with, cooking and chilling with the girl I am seeing which was wonderful. She just left in the morning and I am writing this)

But as far as my approaching is concerned, I feel that my approaches are lacking proper sexual/romantic intent and are platonic and many a times the girl feels I am just talking to her to kill time while waiting for a friend, just being chatty. I think at my level I should work more on polarization and I am maybe employing more advanced techniques to try and be smooth but it is not working as I am not sub-communicating intent well. So I decided that I will work on this in the coming week now and make my approaches more direct and polarized.

Just saw this post by Chase and I thought I will post a link here as a reminder to myself to polarize more and also to help anyone else stuck with the same sticking point as me.
https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/when-and-how-much-should-you-polarize.10206/

I think I belong in the journeymen category but I have been polarizing too little.

terminator92 said:

But as far as my approaching is concerned, I feel that my approaches are lacking proper sexual/romantic intent and are platonic and many a times the girl feels I am just talking to her to kill time while waiting for a friend, just being chatty. I think at my level I should work more on polarization and I am maybe employing more advanced techniques to try and be smooth but it is not working as I am not sub-communicating intent well. So I decided that I will work on this in the coming week now and make my approaches more direct and polarized.

Just saw this post by Chase and I thought I will post a link here as a reminder to myself to polarize more and also to help anyone else stuck with the same sticking point as me.
https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/when-and-how-much-should-you-polarize.10206/

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That's a good article. I've noticed i've got the same problem as well. Some of my approaches are to platonic. I'm gonna be more direct in my verbals. from now on.

You mean to say there was no sexual intent, that is the approach wasn't man-to-woman enough for her to realize and start playing along.

You need to navigate the conversation with humor and laughter, then spice it up with sextalk. Just let it pass up as a joke-if she Eats it(starts finding you funny). You can chaseframe, role play... And increase the chemistry between you two.

All these stuffs are subcommunicated by your vibe. That's why you need to meet more women. Abundance in mindset is abundance in reality.

Let's just say your subconscious mind is happy having a conversation with a new woman and it gets scared of loosing all that built up bubble- especially if it is going well. Now, this is good but the problem is the man becomes complacent and doesn't dial in sexuality(which is key in playing the lover role).

Don't be scared to whip it out. Once you open and get a conversation going, just start thinking of being forward a bit. Then you can build from there depending on how receptive she is to your advances.

Find a way to add sextalk because women want to fuck and create babies(its just in their nature). Always add sex talk if the stranger doesn't like it you both can work away without judgement. Which is the biggest barrier in sexual matters.

This element is very substantial to the lover role and anyone playing the game cannot over look it lest his funnel be filled with women who want nothing to do with him, sexually.

Spice your seductions with sexual aggressions. Dress cool but don't take shit, approach confidently and pour your sexual thoughts on the set. If she likes it then, escalate further and see where it goes from there.

Mr Stif.

Day 6

Now I am in a bit of a dilemma. I know I have to project more intent/ sexuality into my interactions. However, I am not for opening directly all the time due to many factors. One, I don’t think it fits my personality. I have forced myself to do it before and it does work no doubt but I always feel I want to feel the girl out a bit and only then show my interest. I have done it before when I was doing very intense sessions of Daygame in cities in which I was on a holiday where nobody knew me. The city I live in now is not that huge. It has a population of just less than 2 million but now without tourists it’s a bit lower. So I often run into girls I have approached before and also sometimes the girls I approach tend to know someone I know. All in all it is not a city where I can do direct openers consistently and burn through many sets. Also, my goal is to not develop a form or style of Game that is abrasive and that I can use only in high population cities but something I can use regardless of which city I move to, at University, work, at an office party, social event etc. And to do this, an important thing I feel is to learn low key openers to test the waters and slide in smoothly, hook and then show interest and gauge her reaction and then move forward. This I feel ensures you don’t end up in awkward scenarios where you blatantly hit on the girl and then she does not respond or responds negatively etc. and the awkwardness of running into her again. And also this form of opening can be used anytime and anywhere as it is not risky. Although you get rejected, it does not come with the same consequences.

I am writing all this as one of the girls I approached today directly at a different part of the city, I ended up running into next to my house and she looked at me and awkwardly put her head down and walked away after recognizing me. I want to ensure that this does not happen many a time. Maybe I will post about this in a separate thread in the forum and get some of the experienced member’s views on it.
Anyways, coming to the approaches, I did 4 approaches and it took less than 2 hours.

1st Approach- Saw a girl walking ahead of me in a nice white dress and I ran up to her and got side by side and delivered my compliment opener. She was startled and surprised and got awkward, I still stayed in and continued and walked with her a bit but she was still uncomfortable so I ejected. This was the girl I ran into again near my house.

2nd Approach- I was on a mission to be polarizing. I saw a gorgeous girl sitting on a bench near the river, generally I would hover and go in very low key maybe asking her to take a picture of me or lowering her guard in some way and trying to then transition. But this time I just walked up to her and held strong EC and asked if she spoke English, but I feel she looked at me and then said in perfect English that she does not want to talk English. And I joked about something and she still tried to say somehow that she did not want to talk and I ejected.

3rd Approach- It was a girl who was taking a break from working at a mall. She was sitting outside smoking. I went up to her and did a cold read and then guessed she was taking a break from work and explained that I was waiting for a friend and she did not speak good English but she received my approach well and then I complimented her nails and she thanked me. This is what I feel is something that I have to work on opening low key and then making flirtatious statements of interest slowly. However, this girl spoke very little English and so I bid her goodbye.

4th Approach- I was in my head a bit thinking whether I should open direct or open neutral and then slowly show interest. Saw a girl with a big booty walking ahead of me, I walked behind her and then she stopped near a light stop and I came up beside her and opened with guessing her nationality and it was wrong but she seemed open for a convo. However, I was so in my head figuring out what way is best that I went blank so I awkwardly ejected.

(All in all though direct day game is the simplest in times of structure I think I need to get innovative and will get the other member's opinions as well by starting a thread)

Day 7

Today was an extremely busy day for me. I was busy from around 10 am until 21:30. But I was adamant to not break the streak and get in my 4 approaches regardless. I did one in the morning while on the way to run an errand and the remaining I did in the late evening past 10pm. So they were not ideal sets but I am happy I still did them.

1st Approach- She was a really gorgeous girl and she was standing next to me at the tram stop. She had already noticed my presence and I opened with a cold read about her nationality, it was wrong and she told me she was Hungarian. I was about to stack an assumption about the kind of work she does based on her attire and midway through it a fight broke out next to us between two guys and everyone’s attention was drawn towards that. Then she looked at me and said “I hate when this happens” and then said something about how there is always something fucked up happening in and around the area around this tram stop and I got derailed and sucked into what she was saying and in a few seconds her friend arrived and she was gone. I was pissed. But whatever she was really hot and I opened without much hesitation so I was happy about that.

2nd Approach- This was late at night so I was careful and went in very indirect till they were comfortable with my presence and then tried to transition. I saw a girl on the tram stop and walked up to her and asked her for some directions and told her that I was waiting for a friend and that both of us were then planning to go to a bar. She gave me the directions and I asked her if she was also getting ready to go drinking tonight. She laughed and said she was just getting home. I then did a cold read of her nationality, I got it wrong and she was Serbian but I guessed a Slavic country so she said I was close. I said I knew a few words in Serbian and told her a few words I know, she laughed and asked me how I knew them. I told her I had a Serbian girlfriend before and that is how I learnt them but by this time the tram arrived and I could have got in it with her and continued but she was not that hot and I would have had to come back again a long way so I let her go.

3rd Approach- I walked around for a long time looking for girls as it was late. Finally found a girl who was walking and I just waited till she stopped at a tram stop. I then approached her and asked for some directions. She did not speak the best English but I switched the conversation and started talking about how I liked this city and where she was from and how she liked living here etc. (Here is where I feel I need to have some gambits and routine stacks to get her immersed in the conversation, I was just freestyling. But I want to develop some routines to immerse her and then guide the conversation to topics that would be helpful to me in the seduction) Then we delved into the village she was originally from and life there and then I switched to talking about her tattoos and she showed me her tattoos and explained the meaning behind them. (Even here I now feel I had many opportunities to turn the conversational flirty but I was not prepared and I want to work on it). But again she had to get off the tram and she left.

4th Approach- I had to do one last approach. Again found a girl standing near a street corner and opened her with asking for directions. She spoke very little English and was struggling to tell me the directions I switched the conversation and complimented her shoes and she understood that and smiled. She I think liked me and had a smile throughout and explained the directions to me and then I continued to banter with strong eye contact and she blushed but she just could not sustain a conversation in English. So I said its okay thanked her and she blushed again and I ejected.

(I was very happy to do the approaches despite my nearly impossible day. I was able to open in a low key and neutral manner and then transition which I am very happy about. I will sit down and plan and maybe write or think of some routines or ways in which to hook conversations with girls and immerse them once I open)

Day 8

I could again go out to Daygame only after the sunset today due to Uni and other stuff I had to get done. But I ended up doing 5 approaches which is good.

1st Approach- Walked around for quite a bit as I am trying to find either very slow walking sets or stationary sets to approach. I found a girl wearing a mask sitting outside a local train station but she seemed to have a good body. I sat down next to her and she looked at me so I opened immediately. Opened with something very low key asking if this was the main entrance to the station and giving her context by telling her that I was waiting for a friend who is supposed to meet me here. Then I did a cold read about her nationality and got it right. She was Russian. This shocked her and she was stunned that I could tell though she was wearing a mask. This opened the topic of travel wonderfully and I tried out some bits and parts of gambits I have read from @Bacchus ’s articles especially the Tourist Frame.

Of course my delivery was nowhere near how Bacchus explains that he delivers them. But still it was good to use them and she said she would go to Thailand if she won the lottery and could go anywhere in the world. I asked her what she would do first if she landed in Thailand tonight and said she would go eat some delicious seafood and then go for a swim at the beach. During this part of the interaction she told me she had a husband and she was waiting for him to pick her up. But the convo was going good so I stayed in thinking I might as well get in some conversation practice. I then nudged the conversation to many topics telling her about my interests and exploring hers and I feel I did a good job of deep diving. But after knowing she had a husband I chickened out of trying to get into sex talk. But looking back I think she would have been up for it and I should have tried to slowly introduce it. After some more time elapsed I realized she was not really investing in me and she seemed unavailable and rather satisfied with her husband and there was nothing going to happen between us. I made a decision to eject and do my other approaches as it was getting late.

I told her my friend has arrived and I had to go. And at this point she said “Thank you so much for coming up and talking to me. It was a really refreshing conversation and great talking to you”. Though she did not see me as a sexual option I feel the reason she said this was that with the techniques I used I came across as a guy with better conversational skills than normal. At least I would like to think so as it motivates me to develop my conversational skills and verbal game more. When I was going direct I was putting so much effort and energy into my hard hitting opener and then had scant little to offer in the conversation so this is an improvement I feel.

2nd Approach- A kind of cute looking girl at the bus stop. Opened low key with asking her what time the next bus arrives and then did a cold read about her nationality but it did not manage to open the conversation up much. Partly because she did not speak good English and seemed to be too young. I tried staying in and drawing her into a conversation. (Here I feel some prepared material to throw out would be good. I have not yet gotten around to writing down some routines and stories to delve into but will do soon). But it was not working so I ejected.

3rd Approach- A tall MILF in sexy heels at a tram stop. This is the kind of set I feel I need to develop my Game for because going direct here I have experienced does not go very well or since I am not comfortable going direct in a situation like this with a clearly older woman it has almost never gone well. Anyways I opened with something low key asking about the tram and immediately found out she was not good at English and not up for a convo. But I wanted to see if I could draw her into a conversation so I continued a bit. (Again felt the need for some go to routines here to test out). Performed a cold read and tried to build on it but did not really go anywhere primarily I felt because of her lack of English so then I ejected. But I was still standing nearby waiting for the tram to arrive as I had told her I was waiting for a friend. When the tram arrived she came up to me and wished me a good evening and left.

4th Approach- Another girl at the tram stop. Opened with something banal about the tram and was about to transition and her phone rang and the tram arrived as well and she left.

5th Approach- Was heading back home but I was not satisfied with the last approach and then saw another MILF walking beside me. I appeared busy on the phone and continued to walk beside her but then she stopped abruptly. I continued and then looped back at the intersection and then pretended to notice her suddenly and opened with a question about the entrance to a bar. I should have transitioned quickly out of it but she asked me some question and I answered that and we got into a needless chat about entrances and how some of them are so hard to find and before I could direct the conversation elsewhere someone arrived in a car to pick her up and she had to leave.

(Today I am happy that I tried out some material and I was able to direct the conversation in my first approach to topics I wanted to talk about and I felt like it did leave an impact on her. As @Bismarck mentioned this style of Game does not give one the high of hitting on a random girl in the street and the adrenaline rush that comes with it but I feel it is the way forward for me to get better and more dynamic. Also I noticed that in the absence of direct verbals I am struggling to give off a sexual vibe and that I have a ton of work to do on what Gunwitch calls his S.E.C.T Method. Will focus on that in the coming days)

Day 9

I ended up doing 6 approaches today. But was not very lucky due to some of the girls speaking zero English. However, I did practice some things I have been working on.

1st Approach- Was on a bench at a local train station. Sat next to her without looking at her for around 2 minutes and then opened her over the shoulder asking if she spoke English and she was hesitant and said not really. I still tried to continue by speaking slowly so that she could understand but she seemed to not understand and I said its okay and let it go.

2nd Approach- I planted myself next to the entrance of the mall as many girls stand there to smoke or while waiting for their friends. In 2 minutes a not so pretty but slim looking girl stood next to me. I noticed her while I was on my phone and then opened asking if she spoke English, she said just a bit. I then asked her if this was the main entrance to the mall from this side and I concentrated on maintaining eye-contact and speaking slowly. I could see ever so slightly a change in the reaction she gave me and the reactions I get from other girls with this kind of opener when I do not pay attention to EC. She said yes it was and then Immediately I gave her a I just noticed kind of look and asked if she was not from here as she had a different vibe and look about her. I was right, she was half Nigerian but said she grew up here and had never been to Nigeria. We bantered for a bit and I consciously held good EC. She asked me where I was from and what I study etc. She told me she was an accountant and that she liked accounting. I then came up with a deep dive question about accounting which if I remember accurately was something like this “What is it that you really enjoy about accounting? Is it the thrill of looking through vast and complicated sets of numbers and finding a mistake and correcting it? Or just the satisfaction you feel once all the numbers are arranged properly and makes perfect sense?”
She said that it was both and that she really liked working with numbers, the conversation was going well but suddenly her friend whom she was waiting for arrived and she had to go. So it was quite an abrupt end to the conversation. But I was happy as I consciously practised eye contact and speaking slowly with pauses in this set.

3rd Approach- I saw another older woman maybe in her mid-thirties waiting near the park area of the mall. I would not have normally approached her but I figured she is alone and stationary and it would be good conversation practice, so why not? I hovered and then after a few seconds opened with asking if she spoke English and then asked her if this was the parking lot for the mall, I then told me I am waiting for a friend who is driving here. She told me she was waiting for a friend too. I then looked her in the eye paused for a second and told her that she does not look like she is from here and she said she was and that she just has tanned quite a bit this summer. I then used a reality pace gambit I specifically wrote down for this location as I approach a lot around here. It goes like this:
“You know what I feel about xxx location, if you take a moment and look around, you see that it is actually really beautiful, the architecture and the way it is built especially the entrance at the front, but we never notice it because of the people and the atmosphere here. I am sure you feel the same way and have had many people who are drunk or creating a nuisance come up to you when you have been standing here and it spoils the beauty of it” (I came up with this as this is true of this location and many women have their guard up here. So I came up with this to use in the future early in the conversation to put a girl at ease and to come across as a guy who understands her reality)
She agreed and then we spoke a bit more about several topic. I then came to know she was married and also had a kid. But I just stayed in set anyway, I wanted to practice taking the conversation to topics I wanted to talk about and controlling the flow of the conversation. I managed to nudge it towards travel and asked her “Imagine if you could just drop all your responsibilities right now and go anywhere you desire in the world, where would you go?” She said California and told me about her travels in the US 6 years ago. By this time her friend called saying she had arrived and so we bid each other goodbye.
(She later saw me again near a bus stop in the vicinity where I was waiting to do another approach and came back and showed me some toys she had got from her friend for her kid, bantered a bit more and left)

4th Approach- I saw a cute looking girl who was maybe just about 20 near the entrance to a fast food joint, I hovered and opened but she spoke not much English and then her boyfriend arrived and she left.

5th Approach- She was standing outside the entrance to the mall and I used the hover and opened. Again as luck would have it, she spoke no English and it was impossible to communicate, however she was blushing and gave me good eye contact but I ejected.

6th Approach- She was a really cute blond standing in the corner inside the mall. Luckily she was not wearing a mask. I approached and opened with a comment about the vibe of the mall, she smiled and answered and as I was about to transition, her friend arrived and she left.

(As I am not relying on my direct opener, I am being forced to concentrate on my non-verbals to communicate intent. Today in a couple of sets I held good EC. I should also concentrate on speaking slowly and deliberately I feel I get flustered and my voice has to improve. Working on these things now.)

Great stuff terminator92. I can see you making progress already.

Also, kudos on doing the approaches even with such a busy schedule!

True Teutonic discipline haha

Bismarck said:

Great stuff terminator92. I can see you making progress already.

Also, kudos on doing the approaches even with such a busy schedule!

True Teutonic discipline haha

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Thanks so much for the encouragement. Unfortunately today I could not do approaches, as I had to attend a wedding. Will get back to it tomorrow though!

Hey guys! I have dropped the ball a bit in the last few days. Saturday, Sunday and Monday I just could not approach. I was swamped. Yesterday I went out late and due to new Covid regulations everything shuts early and I found zero girls my age to approach.

I came back yesterday and drew up a game plan. I am trying to learn structured game and come up with my own routines, gambits etc. as I have until now been just doing direct opener Game. I also want to become a great conversationalist and learn to project intent through my subcomms and also develop a versatile Game that I can adopt to many scenarios and not just daygaming girls who are alone. To this end there are many things I can do. @Velasco recommended the YaReally Archive and I have been devouring it, it is absolutely great. Thanks for that!

I found this great part from the YaReally archive which I am sharing below. This is him giving advice to a guy who is struggling with conversations and has been only doing "Natural Game":

"That’s ’cause you’re mostly winging it. There’s no shame in making up a couple routines or practicing telling a DHV story or two. You’ll find Naturals tell the same stories over and over if you hang around them while they interact with different people. And right now you don’t have a ton of experience making shit up or have many interesting stories to tell, so it can help to have a little foot-hold planned.
You’re doing something like:
1) Approach
2) Opener
3) Cold-read
4) …waiting for her to contribute……..
5) Fail

lol VS something like:

1) Approach
2) Opener
3) Tease her about her answer
4) Cold-read
5) Transition to DHV story
6) Qualify her based on your story topic
7) Tease her for her answer (Push)
8) Just kidding, I love you (Pull)
9) Qualify her (but wait, can you–)
10) DHV story
11) Qualify her (at first I wasn’t sure about you, but now…)
12) Push for #-close
etc.

Like, you’re just using 10% of the arsenal available to you right now, and that 10% is pretty make-shift right now. Which is totally fine, you’re new and this takes time to build up. But just so you get an idea of what a difference it makes to have some cold-reads, stories, qualfying questions, etc. up your sleeve."

And this resonated with me as I have been struggling with the same problem. So I came up with some openers and some transitions to get the conversation on to topics I want to talk about and I wrote down a couple of openers, transitions to get to the topic of travel and then tell some travel stories of mine and then deep dive on travel. For now I just made this drill to get every set to this topic and tell my story about travel.

So now I can do this with either a guy or a girl of any age. I am still looking to talk to women but if I cannot find any women I find attractive I will still approach as I am now doing a drill to get better. And then I am looking to add more routines to accomplish the objectives listed above.

This is great but remember that push/pull = Grandmaster style (Cocky/funny) which is very hit or miss for day game.

It works, yes, on DTF girls mostly. Can work on SHBs too.

And DHV stories are unnecessary.

I prefer Chase's style, where you say as little about yourself as possible, and play down your qualities in a humble way (build intrigue) and redirect the conversation to her (now she's qualifying herself to you), and differentiate yourself from most other guys by (when asking e.g. what she'd do if she won the lottery) holding her accountable for not following her dreams (show authority).

Pepper in a bit of Gun 3 keys (emotional stims, always remembering social frame and sexual arousal) and you're an unstoppable force. Oh and Riker for conversations.

Day 10

So I was now out again at a really bad time. But I was determined to do some approaches and the drill I posted about before. So my goal was to open, transition, get on to the topic of travel and deep dive on it. I could approach two women today.

1st Approach- She was a girl standing on the tram stop not that great looking but still a set I could practice on. So I went in with my low key indirect opener I had planned. Made a comment about that particular tram line and how crowded it gets at this time and she was staring at me blankly and I continued and made another comment which was another opener I had planned. So I stacked my openers and then told her I was waiting for my friend and now she opened up a bit and told me she was not from here so she does not know much about the city but agreed as to how sometimes she too feels that the city is crowded.

I had planned a cold read as to where she was from but since she said she was not from here it gave me an easy opening to segue into asking where she was from. I knew the city she was from and told her when I had been there and what I thought of it. Then I used my transition gambit of how beautiful the city we were in was and how once I started living here I realized how easy it is to forget about its beauty and she agreed and said she however prefers smaller cities and that gave me my perfect opening to transition into the topic of travel.

I then told her about my favourite cities in Europe and asked her “If you could go/live anywhere where would you choose to live?” She thought hard and mentioned some cities but she did not seem to really be up to talk much about travelling. I presumed this was maybe because she had not travelled that much. Anyways I had accomplished my objective of getting the conversation on to the topic of travel in a smooth way.
Then I moved on and spoke about learning languages and how we learn swear words first and by now she wanted me to continue the conversation and had turned towards me fully. I had hooked her not sexually but socially. She was giving me better eye-contact and we spoke about curse words and laughed and she brought up the curse word “I will fuck you” in her language which I thought was very interesting.
At this moment my phone rang and it was my mother and I had to take this call as I had to help her with something so I just got her name wished her a good day and left and she was beaming.

2nd Approach- I had to get going soon to go to a class at Uni but I wanted to approach more as the first set had taken a good 15 mins. Saw a woman sitting on a bench outside a train station. She was late 30s but I went for it anyway. Sat down next to her looking at my phone waited for a minute or so and opened with my low key opener asking if this was the platform that is closest to x entrance. She was very curt and gave me an almost annoyed look but she answered, but I stacked my opener and asked her if she knew whether there was another entrance to the train station, this time she answered a bit more elaborately and asked if I was going to another country. I told her that I was not and that I was just waiting for a friend.

That gave me a great opening to transition telling her that I have been living here and going to Uni here for two years and I told her I have been trying to learn the local language and said two sentences in the local language which made her chuckle and put a smile on her face. She then empathized with me that the language was hard and that I would have to stay here many more years to become proficient and then we spoke about learning languages and what languages she studied in high school.

I then recited my prepared gambit which goes something like “You know, this city is so beautiful, when I came here two years ago I was fascinated at how beautiful the city is and felt that it was so strange that some locals did not appreciate it. But now after two years I realize that after we start living in a city we get so consumed by our day to day tasks that we forget to appreciate the beauty of a city, and it fades into the background. So I take time out to sometimes sit and just look around and admire the beauty of the city” This opened her up and she shared her experiences with the city and where she hails from and what she misses etc. (I was like wow was this the same woman who I felt was annoyed when I opened her!!!?) She then peppered me with questions asking me where I was from and how I found the city and how it compares to my hometown etc.

At this point it was easy to transition into the topic of travel and I told her about me traveling to various cities in Europe and how I think travel sets you free and expands and shapes your personality (I am working on a proper routine about travel that has hooks which I can then use to transition to talk about sex, adventure, sense of freedom etc.) She told me she loved Prague and Italy and she asked me a bunch other questions and I had achieved my objective of talking about travel and deep diving about it. I did very little to further the conversation from then on and she continued the conversation and we bantered a bit more.

I was not really attracted to her and she was quite older so I was not planning on a close. She then mentioned that she had to leave and I did not say anything to that so she waited for a second and then said it was nice talking to me and then she added that I could add her on Facebook if I wanted to talk to her some more or if I needed any help from a local. I did not have internet on my phone and asked if she could add me on Facebook, she whipped out her phone and I typed out my Facebook name and she sent me a request and just looked at the first few pics and said “Oh! Wow. Seems like you have lots of friends and that you have a lot of fun”. To which I replied telling her that yes indeed I do and that I believe in living an interesting and fun life. She seemed impressed and again said something about how colorful my life seemed from my profile and then we exchanged names and she left. I texted her after going back home and we have been texting up until now but nothing sexual.

(I could only do 2 approaches but I am still happy I did them and I worked on this drill and will continue to piece my Game together bit by bit.)

Bismarck said:

This is great but remember that push/pull = Grandmaster style (Cocky/funny) which is very hit or miss for day game.

It works, yes, on DTF girls mostly. Can work on SHBs too.

And DHV stories are unnecessary.

I prefer Chase's style, where you say as little about yourself as possible, and play down your qualities in a humble way (build intrigue) and redirect the conversation to her (now she's qualifying herself to you), and differentiate yourself from most other guys by (when asking e.g. what she'd do if she won the lottery) holding her accountable for not following her dreams (show authority).

Pepper in a bit of Gun 3 keys (emotional stims, always remembering social frame and sexual arousal) and you're an unstoppable force. Oh and Riker for conversations.

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I just posted it as an example as it showed me that I could prepare for approaching and that I can have an arsenal of tools at my disposal. And of course that advice was for nightgame but I have started thinking now about routines and gambits and preparing for what I will say as opposed to always just winging it like before.

But thanks for those tips. I will go through Gunwitch and Riker's work slowly imbibe them into my Game as well