Call of the Wild

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Reasons for this journal
I have decided to finally make a journal instead of just profile posts of how many sets and stuff i do. I'm absolutely spamming the "profile posts" tab on the front page. To not spam the "recent posts" tab either, i will make the second post here a quick summary and story of 2020 and how i got started and the third post here my 2021 stats (number of sets/numbers/I-dates/dates/lays per month) and just keep editing it as life goes on.

I wanna make this journal for the following reasons:
  1. Track my stats:
    • This was very helpful for many reasons. It helped keep me on track for one thing, to see if i was heading in the right direction or not. Another thing, whenever i was down, i could go back in time and see "Wow, i thought things were so great then, but i had two bad sessions in a row and then had one really good one where i closed most of the girls" when i was feeling down, to realize some sessions are good and some are bad. A rollercoaster ride with ups and downs.
  2. Field reports and lay reports:
    • I wanna write down field and lay reports occassionally as a written reminder on the things i did well and the things i did bad on a certain outing. Doesn't have to be too fancy. Just the pros and cons of that session. Often after i get done with an intereaction it is so fresh in my mind what i did right and what i did wrong, but i am quick to forget again after a few days as my mind gets occupied with other things if i do not write it down.
    • Write down the interaction so other helpful seducers can chime in to give their advice on what i can improve, help with sticking points and give new things and ideas i can field test the next time. Field reports and the feedback from the skilled seducers in other journals have been very helpful for me as an onlooker reading through, so people who simply wanna read through my adventures and the feedback i get are very welcome here.
  3. A sort of diary:
    • For me personally i also want to make this so that i can read through the pains and the pleasures, the ups and the downs, the victories and the defeats of my journey. To eternalize it. My brain is fucked up trying to express this in english words, i can barely think of a way of describing it in my native tongue. Alas, my heart knows what i am talking about. I love going through old pictures, letters, schoolpapers etc. from when i was a kid. Almost brings a tear to my eye sometimes. This will serve a similiar purpose. A record of my memories, my feelings, my journey, my adventure.
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So here it is folks:

Call of the Wild
By Phoenix
 
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Skjöldr

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2020
My journey with cold approach (almost exclusively daygame with few night game exceptions) started for real on Monday 13th 2020. I remember it bright as day. I had made myself a commitment. 3 weeks of summer holiday. I was gonna get started with this once and for all. I had very little expectations. Of course i dreamt of all the beautiful maidens i would lay, but i primarily just looked forward to doing approaches. I just wanted to approach a woman in bright daylight, sober. That was my dream. That for me, would make a world of difference. I got up on that day. Subconsciously i had looked forward to just doing another city-walkaround like i had done a few times the past 7-8 months. Going out to approach women. Going out for that reason. Then walk around town for hours without... approaching women. The entire reason for going out. I look back in disbelief how big approach anxiety was for me then. I couldn't do it. Atleast... until now.

I put my shoes on. It was 1 pm i think i can recall. I went out my door. This is it. I walked all the way to the city through the river path. A quite trafficked area i must admit. And yes... like all the other times... i passed the women. It was over before i knew it. I would see a girl, tell myself i was gonna approach and then chicken out in the last minute and see her pass before my eyes into the empty space, perhaps never to be seen again. *sigh*. I walked and i walked. For hours. Same shit over again. I was walking on my way home. Fatigued. Around 3 hours of just walking. A girl walking fast walked past me. It was a moment i will never forget.

I would never forget this moment, because it would not be a moment like all the others before. This moment was the turning point. Also not because it was my first daygame cold approach. I had done around half a dozen previous ones. No, it would not be like all the other times for the simple reason than i was FED UP! It hurt more to chicken out than it did to approach. She passed me like so many other girls had done before. All the other times i had told myself "Oh well missed your chance, better luck next time, she's far too gone now anyways". This time i told myself that... and added a little something: "... or is she? Let's go FIND OUT". And i sprinted after her. Did a shitty side stop from behind. Stumbled with my words "H-hey i know, woops, this is super... uhh.. random but i thought you were cute and i wanted to meet y-you". She looked at me "Oh i have a boyfriend" and then kept walking. And oh boy i was on top of the world. I rode that wave until i saw a woman on the side street. I passed her. "Goddammit man". I turned around. She's checking her phone, MILF, great ass. I ran up to her. Her eyes smiled at me. She loved the compliment. Told me she was marry but that i should keep going, because what i was doing was awesome. I was euphoric. I went home. "5.30 pm". Damn man. 4 hours and a half and only 2 approaches? I ate some food and relaxed. There was no going back from here. I hit the street again that day and did some more approaches. I had heard the Call of the Wild... and responded.

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2020 stats:
-hundreds of approaches
-hundreds of rejections
-dozens of numbers
-many dates
-few i-dates
-6 lays in total from July-December 2020
 

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January
Sets10
Numbers2
Instant dates
Dates
Lays

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Weird, can't edit posts.

February so far:
4 sets
1 numbers
 
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Weird, can't edit posts.
You can only edit a few moments later (an hour or two?), I suppose it's so people don't just delete stuff they wrote or completely change a comment a lot of people already reacted to.

Very inspiring stuff, I'm waiting for my "breakthrough" on daygame as well, but I rarely ever go out just to approach girls... Or at least seriously trying.
 

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Been hitting hard this week so far. Mon-Thu i have gotten 8 phone numbers out of about 18-20 approaches. That's a good ratio but as all skilled seducers know, you cannot make love to a phone number. My approach to hook has gone up since my last daygame period which ran from Jul-Oct and then sorta died down until February here again where i got going hard again. The past week have gotten me some good ass momentum. I have a date lined up for tomorrow and i am texting one of my numbers from today that seems like a good lead. The rest... most went ghost and some kind of half-ghosted. Will double text tomorrow if i hear nothing (waited 3 days, should be enough). Also i started deleting phone numbers. If they don't reply to my ice breaker, my follow up text and some calling-out text ala "are you always this talkative" or sometimes just a "?" (credits: Poon King from sosuave.com).

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I still do direct open as it seems more fitting for the walking sets. What i do is i run to this calisthenics ground 3.5 km from my place and then i do some approaches on the way there and back. The calisthenics things are right next to a trafficked nature track that runs from the two biggest parks in my city, one in the city centre and one in the suburbs. So if i'm doing pullups or having a break and a chick passes before my eyes, i'm off to approach. I have entered a sort of permanent social god mode state from all the momentum, where it would usually take me 3-4 sets to warm up properly now i'm flowing after the first set. On top of that i did a daygame session yesterday because i had time and was feeling like going for a walk and it was during afterwork rush hour and holy shit the amount of people and cars and everything in the city, so packed, gave me jitters and approach anxiety, but i pushed through it. That's why i like doing the girls on the river trail, it's more chill and doesn't have so many people staring. I actually saw this woman stopping up to look at some animals at the zoo from the trail. I should have done the hover->pre-open-indirect-open and move from there to try it out. Fuck! She was sort of an older woman too which is kind of cool, because direct open in daygame is pfffft in that case if she's twice my age. I had alot to cold read her on, it could have been a very smooth set with lots to work with. I was warmed up too. Boohoo.

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My approach to hook has gone up. I credit this to starting speaking more emotionally and trancing girls with eye contact while doing ruses and reality paces. One that works good as reality pace+intrigue bait goes something like this: "Yeah you know, i'm not used to sitting inside all day and studying. I need to do something practical and active, need something between my hands. Sure, sitting inside and studying you might learn new things, but you just have to get outside to move your body, breathe some fresh hair and wash the stress away. I can't wait until i get back to work again and my school period is over" And 95% of times they go "Wait, what do you do?" and i say "I work in carpentry, i love being outside and working with wood and building stuff, what about you, what do you study/work with?" This isn't exactly how i say it but you get the idea.

1. Pacing her reality with the restrictiveness and boredom of sitting inside and while you may learn new things you yearn to get outside to get a breath of good weather and fresh air while stretching your legs and working your body (A twist on a similiar pace from @Lofty i think, maybe @fog )+An intrigue bait of me saying how i'm not used to being inside all day to study and that i can't wait to get outside again and work (she wonders "Hmm what does he do?").

2. Another one i use is when girls listen to music i do the one from @Gunwitch about how you fantasize about different scenarios in your head with the music playing (in short, i deliver this one more fruitfully with good eye contact etc) and when they say they are listening to a podcast or an audio book i go into a reality pace/rainbow ruse (not sure which one of them it is) about how they just sort of switch their mind off and turn their attention to what they are hearing and living themselves into it while they are just walking on autopilot. Some girls say they just need something to listen to and don't pay very close attention. Maybe talk about how having some sort of background noise allows them to get into their minds and just dream or think about different things.

1. and 2. works very well IME

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Also i started deleting phone numbers. If they don't reply to my ice breaker, my follow up text and some calling-out text ala "are you always this talkative" or sometimes just a "?" (credits: Poon King from sosuave.com).
in regards to follow up texts, I like the "?" follow up and use it myself because its so simple, effortless, and continues on the same conversation thread.

Ive thought about when to continue on the same convo thread, vs starting a new thread (the "talkative" line is an example of starting a new thread). For me it really depends on why the girl stopped replying. most of the time im continuing on the same text thread, and save starting a new text thread for when i need to run a new key, or keep her out of auto rejection. i rarely start a new thread specfically as a follow up text.

It's used quite a lot by others but ive never been a fan of the "talkative" line. To me its the equivalent of a girl saying to you, "youre a bad texter" which is a huge sign of interest from her. This line also cements a dynamic of you chasing her around over text.

In the past, I have also used "weeeeeeelll?" as a follow up because it directly injects tension into the conversation. if your previous text had no tension in it, then she might not feel any pressure to reply. if it did, she will be feel extra tension now. once you inject tension in the conversation, she feels the need to reduce it, so it gets a good response rate.

1. Pacing her reality with the restrictiveness and boredom of sitting inside and while you may learn new things you yearn to get outside to get a breath of good weather and fresh air while stretching your legs and working your body (A twist on a similiar pace from @Lofty i think, maybe @fog )+An intrigue bait of me saying how i'm not used to being inside all day to study and that i can't wait to get outside again and work (she wonders "Hmm what does he do?").
this is all @Lofty here :D
 
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A little update
I'm on day 9 of nofap, my approach:number ratio is stable at 1 number per 3 approaches which is cool. Got like a dozen numbers last week. Girls are hooking better and getting alot of enthusiastic yes'es to my closes which is dope. What is fucked up is that some girls will go "hell yeah lets do it" when i ask them out and then exchange a few texts and go cold and some girls will be like "we'll see" and will actually turn up on the date. Weird stuff. Part of the game i guess, but i'm thinking hard what it could possibly be... i am suspecting it is a social frame problem. These girls are like hell yeah in the moment then go home and think about it and chew on it and then decide not to. And these girls hooked in person and had a good convo. Weird man.

Had a date two days ago with a 35 year old woman. She thought i was 24 but it does beat the swedish uni teacher i went out with early last summer when i was total noob, she was 34 and thought i was 26. *sigh* im a naughty boy. Anyways, the date with the 35 year old went okay, she was pretty mute throughout. Was gonna invite her over for tomorrow night and we texted back and forth but ultimately she decided she didn't wanna see me again at all. My daygame is good, probably the best it's been through my career, keep getting better, but my dating game is a bit rusty. Also had a date with a girl my age friday last week.

I pulled neither girls. Girl my age had a time constraint so i opted to go for the kill on the second date and the older woman i did try to pull yesterday but she politely declined.
 

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Also i am currently field-testing a new opener. I got it from @Tony D :

I say to the girl "My friend told me i wasn't handsome/cute/hot enough to get a date in (city), what do you think?" and they always find it amusing/funny and go "Haha i think you are handsome/cute/hot" and i follow up with "You too, what's your name?" or "Thank you, what's your name?" and then take it from there like usually. It works quite well honestly. It's sort of indirect-direct. Some girls say "Haha, yes you are quite handsome, but i have a boyfriend, so good luck elsewhere" So they must feel the intent.

I like it because she verbally tells me that she finds me good-looking from the get go and since she doesn't object and is allowed to say it because of the light-hearted and playful atmosphere that goes with it, it sinks into her (ala grandmaster style and chase-framing) that she finds me physically appealing. Of course this isn't enought to completely get her to wanna fuck me from the start, but i feel it is a good start nonetheless. It communicates sexual intent indirectly, while getting her to do the direct opener on you! Maybe say "Well damn, why didn't you come say hello to me then!?" with a cocky grin haha.

It works well with a pre-approach hover too. Tapping on your phone pretending to talk with your friend and then going in and smiling and sort of waving your phone and going "Hey my friend told me i wasn't handsome enough to get a date in (city), what do you think?" as if i am talking with him on the phone right there. I feel this opener has potential. I haven't made a post in the tactics/techniques yet because i feel like i need to test it more, but here it is, so feel free to test it yourselves!

Edit: Argh! He hugs her in the video. I thought about that too, being like "Aww you're a nice person, what are you up to?" like he says in the video. Because of the whole corona shit idk about hugging girls randomly it already feels ballsy enough when i handshake girls (i don't give a fuck and most girls don't either about the handshake, but idk about the hug)
 

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Just had my 7th daygame lay. She was a DTF girl. Number closed her. Texted back and forth. I spotted DTF signals in her texts. I will add the texting later, going to bed now, but long story short, i drove to pick her up, drove to my place, chatted for about 30 minutes (dude i only talked for 5 minutes with her in the park earlier today) and then i just went for make out cuz fuck it and then it went smooth from there to P in V.

Seems my nofap made it hard for me to get hard. My dick is hibernating after 10 days of no touchy it seems. Honestly i'm in a sweet spot with the nofap thing because it makes me feel awesome and bring joy to life and if i fuck a girl cool, if i don't fuck a girl and do some more semen retention, even better. Very recommendable. Jerking off and watching porn should be cut out no question, but semen retention ala no ejaculation has great benefits too. I almost feel like i spilled some of my precious energy by nutting with this girl but whatever. I got some validation from it and some pussy. Nothing in life is free.


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I deleted her number and conversation after telling her i didn't wanna see her again.
From what i can remember here's an outline:

Me: Enjoy your pick n mix sweets ;) -Phoenix
Her: Thank you!
Me: Did you mix some deli foam bananas?
Her: Ew no, who eats that haha
Me: I know a guy with toothpaste smile and heavenly eyes who loves foam bananas
Her: Okay :D What are you up to? (this was a first DTF signal, she wrote this to me 7 pm on a friday night)
Me: Yelling jokes at my grandpa (he doesnt hear so well :eek:), but i'm leaving soon, what are you up to?
Her: Something along the lines of "chilling/eating candy"
Me: Do you feel spontaneous tonight
And then a long talk about how i had a delicious bottle of wine and needed someone to share it with and she said she had her own bottle and then a long series of frame grabs, shit testing, which i all passed, and eventually i started calling myself the wine man or something and said it would be good for her to get a visit from the wine man and she said she didn't wanna let a strange wine man in at night and i said this wine man is no stranger and he will leave if you don't find his wines to your liking (comfort, showing her i respect her boundaries and will leave if she gets uncomfortable) and she said she could just visit the wine man and i said good idea, because the wine man has a bigger selection and then i asked when and where to pick her up and bingo. Actually we ended up drinking beers because i didn't have a cork-puller tool (Fuck) haha but doesnt matter, means i have them for another good time. Remind me to buy a corkskrew though......
 
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Besides the lay, today was godly. I am currently juggling over 5 different leads. I approached like 7-8 girls and number closed 6 and i'm talking with 5 of those because i already set a date up with one for next week. *Sigh* busy viking

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FIELD REPORT
Friday 05-03-2021 was a great outing man

First i went for a run in the morning, where i closed one girl out of two separate ones.

1st approach: Sexy milf bod
She was an out of towner (not too far though) and live with her boyfriend there so ya i didnt really bother, maybe i should push these more to see what's possible...

2nd approach: Nice ass, lower body etc, not so good the rest. Overall a 6.5/10, in doggy style, 8/10 hehe
She was working out with her friend and i just went in with a direct compliment. I was working out close to them on the calisthenics field, and was almost done. So when i finished i approached. We had a good chat, talked with them both alot, they did most of the talking and almost like they were talking amongst themselves, which gave it a very social, friendly vibe, whereas i wanted it to be more sexual, but it went well regardless and i set up a date with her. Basically i said to my target "Do you wanna go to X park some time?" and she gave me an enthusiastic "sure!" and then her friend left us to it, and i quickly switched into baiting her some intrigue to get her to invest into me and did some subcommunication to get it in and then her friend came back and said "You better treat her nice!" playfully and i said "Gee, you better make sure she's gonna be nice to ME!" and then i teased them both about how her friend is gonna stalk us when we meet and watch us with her binoculars while hiding in the trees haha. So i flipped the script. I wasn't worried, her friend liked me so i had won over her friend and she approved of me.

Secondly i went to do a session of daygame in the city
1st approach: Success with new opener
The girl i banged above. 6.5/10. She was out running in the park when i stopped her, she was walking at that time to catch a breath i reckon. I gave her my new "My friend told me i wasn't hot enough to get a date in (city), what do you think?" opener, so since it is still in the early phases i think it has credibility enough to go into tactics and techniques. Anyways, basic chat, gave her the "listening to music"-reality pace from Gunwitch and did some other cocky funny cold read stuff. Can't remember much but she hooked and we ended up fucking so yeah.

2nd approach: Failure with new opener, BF-rejection
I gave her the same opener, think i switched hot with handsome this time, she said she had a boyfriend, i stalled, she seemed disinterested and pretty stuck on her boyfriend so i let walk along

3rd approach: Hot hungarian HB freckles, direct open
So first this sexy girl came running past me on the path in a park, but there were some people around and i hesitated and in seconds, she was too far gone. Dammit! You gotta act quick. I walk on, but she runs up to the road where the path splits where everyone goes right, she runs to the left. Bingo. I set in chase. I stop her, do my "Hey i know this is completely random an-" in danish, i'm cut off by her saying "english english!" i say "Ah, i said, i know this is completely random, and that i am completely ruining your work out right now, but i saw you run past and i just thought you were cute" of course with a cocky smirk, subcommunicating that i am not really sorry for her and she said "ahh thank you!" and then we just chatted, where she was from, what she's doing here, i did my music pace, i did a pace concerning her studies, she arrived in august "Oh wow, so you barely got to meet your classmates. You know, that's sad, because, you know what's interesting about meeting new people?" and she says "No what?" and i go "When you meet new people and get to know them, you are experiencing new sides to yourself and you get to know yourself better" or something along those lines i can't really remember. It was longer too. She agreed to all my paces saying "yeah yeah!" which was nice. She has a boyfriend in Hungary, but agreed to meet up some time after the weekend, because she was busy in the weekend. Worth a try, she deserves passion and pleasure (yes i started reading Alabaster Girl by Zan Perrion hehe). She was in a hurry to get to work, so i let her bounce off. What an ass....

4th approach: Direct open on HB big booty and shy
So i see this girl to the right of me down the street, i decide to check it out and walk in that direction. She's carrying a bag with a few groceries i pass her, big ass, bit chubby too, but it's fine, can see her black thong slightly through. Me horney. I go in with the compliment opener. She says she's in a hurry to go to her friends to cook food together. I say "Ah okay, but i would like to get to know you better, do you want to meet up some other time?" and she gives me a lukewarm yes, while i number close i multi-task and ask a few questions like what are you gonna cook and blah blah to build some more conversation before she bounces. This is a great technique btw to get some more conversation time into your sets. A girl thinks "okay if i give him the number, then i can keep moving" so she doesn't feel so panicked about being in a rush anymore and it sort of works indirectly of giving you the benefits of a false time constraint. After you take the number just talk some more, AND THEN, be the one to say "alright, i've got to get going, but have fun, talk to you soon" because by that you take the power back of being the one ejecting. Anyways, i tap her arm and say that. I think it is good to get some touching in before you leave like rubbing her arm or clasping her hand again.

5th approach: Long time no see, HB red fox!
So i see this girl, i recognize her, because i really liked her the first time and we had a great talk going, but she flaked and it sort of hurt me back then. Some girls you completely forget and some girls just leave an... impression on you and you remember for a long time. I remembered her name too and she remembered mine. I asked if she wanted to chat for a bit, but she said we could walk together, because i was also out for a walk. So we had a lovely insta date. I feel like i have really good chemistry with this girl. I really wanted to just grab her and kiss her when we sat together at the docks and looked out over the water. But i opted not to. I would rather wait for a time where i can escalate completely from kiss to sex instead of risking passing point of no return and then losing her. Idk, that's my strategy these days, i might start testing kissing girls before we are in a place where sex can happen. She had a scheduled skype call with a friend in Sweden so i followed her back to her place, which was super close and then we agreed to meet up some other time. She's got a nice ass, not super big, but nice shape and long curly red hair.

6th approach: Aww hello there little bunny, are you lost?
Okay, so i fucking love bunnies especially the white silly ones with the blue eyes. They are like huge round fluffy booties with a face haha. So adorable. And short, curvy, silly, innocent blonde, little girls remind me of them. It's like their soul animal. It melts my heart it is so cute. And boy did i see a girl like that. She was so short!! and had a big ass and she was bouncing across the road with her hair flowing. Fuck me, there was no way i wasn't gonna check it out. It went so smooth. Her name sounded like bunny too which was funny. I did the direct compliment front stop. I think she's a mix of perhaps shy but also... slow. You know, kind of unintelligent. But that's fine with me, and i don't mean that in a rude way at all, but we aren't equally smart everyone, i just need to adjust myself accordingly. Speak slower and focus less on witty jokes and more on teasing her, kinoing her and leading dominantly. Because my ex-girlfriend was half english, half irish i have some understanding of her culture and her place of origin. So when this girl told me her name i said "Ahh, that sounds very english, you must be half-english then" and she sort of lit up like "Yes!". Nothing hits home like a successful cold read. Then i ask wherefrom in England. She went from danish to "Eest Yor'shir'" Aww can i kiss you little bunny? So cute. Anyways we chat. I carried the conversation. She said she would like to work with nails and i said "Ahh, so if i wink at you a little and kiss your cheek, i would have a free pass to get a nail clipping" and gave a cocky smirk and i think she took me semi-serios because she said "Hmm, i would probably have the boss first, you can't just give out things for free" haha. Yeah, she's not the brightest that's for sure. But that's okay! Anyways i close her and we agree to meet up some other time. I was very nice to her and very patient with her and teased her only in ways that was nice and that was simple to understand. The game i nuanced. I love testing my skills on different types of girls.

And all these girls? They messaged me back. I'm juggling a hell of alot of leads bro. Anyways, that's all. Adios!
 
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Fuck sakes that video i watched a day too late. Had a date yesterday. Date, pull, make out, grabbing tits and ass, grinding on her, her moaning but she insisted on not having sex because her friend was coming over at some point, so i drove her back. In the car she did check her calender and we talked about which days we are free next (she brought it up). So we didnt have sex from a total matter of not enough time. Goddammit. I know it is a nuke when you almost fuck a girl, but you don't. I hope she wanna meet up again and i can fuck her. Fuck. I think i may have been too pushy about it idk. She responded to my post date text. I said to her "Hey name, thanks for a nice day" and she said "Thanks and you too Peter" with a flower emoji. Then i sent her a picture of me having dinner at my grandparents with my parents and uncle and said "Check out the grandma food ;)" and she havent replied to it. Riiip.
 

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Sounds like you're on a roll :D

Then i sent her a picture of me having dinner at my grandparents with my parents and uncle and said "Check out the grandma food ;)" and she havent replied to it. Riiip.

I highly recommend never sending pictures like this through text. They have a low probability of getting a positive response.

Why? I think it's mostly because the girl doesn't feel obligated to reply, and there's usually no value in the picture for her.

Better to go with some zero small talk, push pull, open loops etc.

This one's not dead yet. Feel free to follow up with a more interesting thread, and make sure she does not ignore you again to keep your chances up.
 

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Sounds like you're on a roll :D



I highly recommend never sending pictures like this through text. They have a low probability of getting a positive response.

Why? I think it's mostly because the girl doesn't feel obligated to reply, and there's usually no value in the picture for her.

Better to go with some zero small talk, push pull, open loops etc.

This one's not dead yet. Feel free to follow up with a more interesting thread, and make sure she does not ignore you again to keep your chances up.
She did reply. I remember she said the only day she was free was saturday which i was unavailable. I had my friend coming over but he said he's not sleeping here and will leave after dinner. So we texted a bit back and forth and i asked her if she was doing anything saturday night and she said she still had no plans. Positive signs imo.

Also yeah, i have like 3 dates with new girls this week so far. If this one comes out on saturday and a girl from last thursday comes out friday night, then that's 2x 2nd dates this week as well. Plus my fuckbuddy comes over sunday night.

That zero small talk article... Dude that's literally how i talk with girls. That's my language. Full on cocky/funny shit making conversation fun and sexual. Although i don't go full sperg on the goofiness, i also keep it solid and build some actual connection. It works well fractionating between a fun sexual vibe and grilling her on social frame to a "serious" sexually tense vibe and deep emotional topics. Like this girl yesterday she was saying how she wasn't a morning person and likes to stay up late and get up late in the morning and i said where i worked before i had to get up before 6 in the morning, and because of the way and sound of how she said "I hate clock o six" and in norwegian and danish six means seks and the way you pronounce it is "sex" so i said "Wait, you hate sex?" and then we just started talking about sex from then on for a while. She said "haha no i don't hate sex, i hate sex o clock" and i said "Ahh okay... Well i kind of hate sex" and she said "You hate sex?" and then i went into @Teevster 's sex talk gambit about bad sex vs good sex. I said "Well, i don't like bad sex. I love good sex when you have really good chemistry with the person and it is so hot and passionate, but bad sex just leaves a not very nice after taste" or some shit.
 
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She did reply. I remember she said the only day she was free was saturday which i was unavailable. I had my friend coming over but he said he's not sleeping here and will leave after dinner. So we texted a bit back and forth and i asked her if she was doing anything saturday night and she said she still had no plans. Positive signs imo.

Also yeah, i have like 3 dates with new girls this week so far. If this one comes out on saturday and a girl from last thursday comes out friday night, then that's 2x 2nd dates this week as well. Plus my fuckbuddy comes over sunday night.

That zero small talk article... Dude that's literally how i talk with girls. That's my language. Full on cocky/funny shit making conversation fun and sexual. Although i don't go full sperg on the goofiness, i also keep it solid and build some actual connection. It works well fractionating between a fun sexual vibe and grilling her on social frame to a "serious" sexually tense vibe and deep emotional topics. Like this girl yesterday she was saying how she wasn't a morning person and likes to stay up late and get up late in the morning and i said where i worked before i had to get up before 6 in the morning, and because of the way and sound of how she said "I hate clock o six" and in norwegian and danish six means seks and the way you pronounce it is "sex" so i said "Wait, you hate sex?" and then we just started talking about sex from then on for a while. She said "haha no i don't hate sex, i hate sex o clock" and i said "Ahh okay... Well i kind of hate sex" and she said "You hate sex?" and then i went into @Teevster 's sex talk gambit about bad sex vs good sex. I said "Well, i don't like bad sex. I love good sex when you have really good chemistry with the person and it is so hot and passionate, but bad sex just leaves a not very nice after taste" or some shit.

Good stuff man, sounds like you're hitting your stride!
 

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Ukranian chick instant-date
So i went on an instant date with this girl today. Used a RPO on her. I spotted another girl i was going for actually but then i walked past this one and she was took pictures and looked a bit foreign so i thought bingoo and i walked past her then turned around got in front and i think i scared her a little bit. I say "I noticed something about you, are you not originally from here?" and she goes "No i'm from Ukraine" and i said "Ah okay, i thought so, because the way you stood there and taking pictures and the way you carried yourself you looked very dreamy and thoughtful, not like people who are from here, like you are not a robot lol" and then she just started talking like a waterfall. It went fantastic. We spent an hour together including a walk in a park/graveyard and me driving her back. I did try to go for a pull but she said how it was very nice but that she also don't know me so well. She was very easy going. Anyways i offered to drive her to her place because it was semi-far from city centre and it was cold and dark which she accepted. Before that we exchanged numbers on whatsapp and then we agreed to meet up another time.
 

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Went on a date again today. My verbal game has entered next level since adding the sex talk routines and the frame routines (non-judgemental, the story about my "friend" who lost a girl because he thought she was easy for sleeping with him quick, slut shaming is bad etc etc) and the 8 orgasm routines and all of it. All of it! My results are booming and i can see the effect on girls in real time. I'm gonna write out my story about my judgemental friend for you guys to use in your own seductions, it is very powerful and i can see the girls getting very immersed into it and interrupting me along the way with an element of frustration like "uhhh maybe she just likes him??" and "omg what??" and shaking their heads and i tell them "Relaax, let me finish ok?" okay here's the story:

"Yeah and i have this friend of mine and he was with this girl, and he told me "Dude she was really easy" (some girls already go "Ugh" at this and rolls their eyes) and i said to him "What do you mean she was easy?" and he said "Yeah she was just really down to get intimate real quick, she was easy" and i said to him "She wasn't easy dude, she just really liked you, but because you judged her for showing her sexual desire for you she felt ashamed and that's why she didn't wanna see you again, because she associated you with bad feelings when you gave her a bad after-taste"

And then after that story i go into how guys want alot of sex with girls who don't have alot of sex and how guys judge girls when they express their sexuality which is a completely natural thing for guys and girls to express their sexuality and they shouldn't be judged for it one way or the other and blah blah blah we jive on that topic for a while until the frame is firmly in place and then i cut thread to something else.
 

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Live from the field:
I'm exhausted and amused. How is this possible. I must have done over a dozen approaches and they have all been rejections. I'm amused because wth, is it international "I have a boyfriend" day today? It gave me good time to reflect about some things. 4 of the dates from last week and this one which went well i am now struggling to set up a second one with. And today with all stick and no carrot. It is like batting your head into a wall. Like all the pussies collectively holding a day of silence today. That feeling that you hit the reset button and must now start all over. I'm not even down. My mood isn't bad. Well, it was a little bit halfway through but then it just became so ridiculously absurd that i just started laughing at the whole thing. God dammit man i'm so exhausted haha. It's not the first time but it's the first time i have actually enjoyed it and it amuses me. I know for certain however, that it will not go on like this forever. Ya boy is in bad luck, but it can only last for "so long". I'm just excited to see what tomorrow will bring. Every now and then you get these tests of your strength and is rewarded with bounty down the road when you pass it. I view it as putting all these rejections into a savings account so that i will have days soon where the table have turned and i will get one hot lead after the other. Eating the sour in anticipation of the sweet.

It's just funny bro.
 
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