Advice on a tease.

[Hiya]

Hi,

Ive been going back and forth with this tease for a year now. She's got naked etc, plenty of kissing, strong eye contact, oral sex. She allowed me to penetrate for a short time and pushed me off, painful. Second time, I ignored the request.

She finds ways to put herself in my proximity, she flirts & teases. She sexually teases other men, then looks at me, for a reaction... She's not interested in those men, she's interested in causing me pain.

After several dates she always rejects me, placing me into the chaser position, I stop chasing then completely.

So when I pull away completely, a month or so, she'll start messaging me apologising, making up excuses for her behaviour.

However she doesn't stop baiting me, she's clearly addicted to my attention. That cycle has continued 4 times over the past year. She might be cluster B or a very experienced cocktease.

I've created distance between us, as I realise I've become emotionally attached and she's used that to her advantage, equally she seems emotionally attached. So I've ducked her for a month now, my feelings seem to have subsided now, to a degree, where I feel I can control my frame.

What I want, is more control in the situation, I'm denying her any postive affection or validation currently.

She's also using various techniques like fractionation/trauma-bonding (creating high and low emotional states), strong eye contact, sexual teasing/baiting, placing me in the chase postion. I have done some chasing because of the constant baiting. I do like the women.

What strategies are best placed with this type of women?

She seems to get very jealous if she thinks other women are giving me any attention.

Lately, she's been trying to bait me, through social media, I've ignored it. I honestly think she wants a LTR from me, she's clearly emotionally attached and seems highly nervous when she sees me and then starts her games.

 

[BigPapa]

Experienced this a couple of years back

- she is experienced
- very intelligent
- she has other men around her that she plays to get stuff from them
- most likely still in contact with her ex or someone that is super attached to and this guy is giving her bedroom romance
- most likely a gold digger or has a very material view about life
- very open minded
- might have some emotional wounds , like being ugly when she was young or being pumped and dumped a lot in the past of her or similar
- for her is only a game of power
- no ltr materia
- the sex is great though

My advice is to just give her attention when she comes to your place and then push push . If still facing lmr just tell her that you go to sleep and she can stay or leave . No attention anywhere else besides the Social meet and greet .

you need to have the balls of Superman to Pull this one

 

[Glow]

Dont be the cat

Be the one with the cat string

Basic mystery method principle

if an attention whore type eg asks you - wanna go to my place..

you dont answer yes

you dont answer no

you answer maybe... and hold the vacuum while adding sexual tension.

see that there are tactics between your going in and full pull away

get to know that zone

 

[Hiya]

Yes it does seem a game of power. My understanding of power is extremely strong however her skills screw me over after several dates, I fall into her frame, the cycle seems to get more intense each time.

She admitted, that she finds me an extremely powerful man and it seems she enjoys eroding that power status.

I do deliver some powerful, thought out negs, at times, which she often complains about, but seem to have good effect..

I don't think its LMR, she actually enjoys inflicting pain, everything seems planned.

Shes not a gold digger quite the opposite and somewhat introverted. I do think she is in contact with her EX still, but hes no where near my level, in social status or wealth.

What I'm interested in, is specifically which techniques to use on her?

 

[Hiya]

Dont be the cat

Be the one with the cat string

Basic mystery method principle

if an attention whore type eg asks you - wanna go to my place..

you dont answer yes

you dont answer no

you answer maybe... and hold the vacuum while adding sexual tension.

see that there are tactics between your going in and full pull away

get to know that zone

I agree with that zone, it seems once I give assurance she pulls away. Hovering closer to the maybe/no zone seems to yield a postive response.

What tactics do you suggest?

 

[BigPapa]

in my case , after like 3h of lmr ( 1h she was running through my house half naked and giggling and laughing ) , I just put her on my back and threw her in the bed , took a scarf and tied her hands to the bed and then started getting slowly her naked and teasing her like 3h in return , then I just Untied her and told her that she can leave if she wants But she jumped on me like a lioness instead

you need to dominate her 50 shades of grey style

 

[DarkKnight]

The problem is when you are playing a game back with this girl for an extended amount of time you are also investing. Which makes you more viable for her games. She is invested in an ex, but do you have other girls you are talking to or sleeping with?

The reason I ask is because I want you to protect yourself first. Because I can assure you, teases have multiple guys they tease. So the investment levels can become very assymetrical to your detriment!

I would keep the door open but focus on other girls. Big chance she will intuit that you are with other girls which improves your scarcity.

 

[Hiya]

The problem is when you are playing a game back with this girl for an extended amount of time you are also investing. Which makes you more viable for her games. She is invested in an ex, but do you have other girls you are talking to or sleeping with?

The reason I ask is because I want you to protect yourself first. Because I can assure you, teases have multiple guys they tease. So the investment levels can become very assymetrical to your detriment!

I would keep the door open but focus on other girls. Big chance she will intuit that you are with other girls which improves your scarcity.

To answer your first question yea I do, I avoid the games once the dating stops, any social media games are ignored by me. Until she moves from baiting to sensibly messaging me and requesting that we have a drink.

 

[Fuck This]

1) This is NOT a woman you want for an LTR....
2) She is purely seeking attention from you
3) There is NO good thing that she brings into your life. And she never will.

Go no contact and block her on all Social media

When other women see how you are immune to her it will up their attraction...

Remember you can attract attractive women... It is up to you to filter them to be sure they are up to your standards....

 

[BigPapa]

@Hiya just do the drinking or whatever at your place then when she is teasing you go full manly put her on your back and throw her on your bed and tie her hands with a scarf of something smooth . Then tease the shit out of her a couple of hours and then you untie her hands and tell her she can leave if she wants .

Most likely she will just jump on you and have amazing sex

it is a power game and as a man the only way to win is to go 50 shades of grey on her since she is a tease .

otherwise just ignore her for good , there is no middle between this 2 options

 

[Glow]

I agree with that zone, it seems once I give assurance she pulls away. Hovering closer to the maybe/no zone seems to yield a postive response.

What tactics do you suggest?

The traditional is the mix of showing interest and taking it away
like push pull
like open loops that you add to
using takeaways with affectionate movements
etc.
old school value game is literally build around this

next is to be more refined
eg. i literally just remove my attention and consider her which hits her harder, the refined takeaway
once im on the inside of game w her or if i have her captivated

it helps a lot to be playfuld in the endavour
and it adds to enable tension within it too eg a well timed lag after a push where you let it hang letting her feel it

mystery method has loads of it bait hook release stuff etc.
some seducer types use it a lot

That said i really dont use it that way - weak seductive principles imo.
Also i think its a much less sharp move in your situation
i sense shes partly on the back heel w you and can flip any second, shes just amusing herself or rimming it for a sense of evil joy which is a side of women that arises when we suck as men. It can be transfered into a positive thing though where its her wild, agressive side, her force that will shape up.
i could be wrong here as i dont get much sense of things in you short outline. So have that in mind.

These days i use it playfully or dead panish to stir more arousal generating feelings and fight type energies - the tesnsiosn and sissling firey parts.
these can be applied at certain parts of the endavour to trasfer her into beast mode and unfold her agressive and carefree sides
and..
its super stimulating

not gonna provide you a model
youve got more than enough to seek these things if you feel the value thing is what u want

i dont fully get her but it soudns like she has the brake on for some reason. Means you dont have her tipped over. i get the sense you guys are not connected

often these things can be cleared away by
- Beign honest and genuine
- Really getting her
- Taking real authority, eg on mindset like teevs does with sex inside his contrasting and framings. Or like i do on SOTS. or just positive reframes after pacing her points.
- Driving her down stimulating emotional paths where shes blown away by the emotions you induce overwriting the value stuff. hijacking her focus.

This second part bypasses all the power stuff and is way more harmonically tight.

Written a bit fast, use what u can. im just riffing of what you provide here.