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after a date with 18yo virgin I was contacted by a policeman. need your help

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fucking scary shit, please give all of your advice, I can't exactly tell my mom this shit, you know:)
I am 27, I met a 18 y o girl though daygame. she was super compliant from the get go, called her same day, got a date for tomorrow in a cafe near my place, for her it was an hour and a half bus ride, so, again, super compliant.

we met, I was talking slowly, sexy, we sat down, got food, I asked about what she is stydying vs what she dreams of. turns out she wants to be a director. which is my exact dream as well. so I asked her to tell me a script idea, she told me, I put in more details and we got a very good movie idea together.

meanwhile I am resting my hand on her back and we are sitting thigh to thigh
then I told her to persue her dreams and enroll into a movie university, explained how exactly she could apply for scholarships and actually make that happen.

then I invited her home to show her some whatever shit and we got our coats and left (3-5 min walk to my place). in the middle of the walk she is reading her phone and telling me that mother will probably disapprove and that she needs to go home.

I say that lets sit at my place for 5 min and then we both will go to the bus stop and I will take a bus as well since I plan to visit my grandma. she says ok.
we go inside, where I have a small self made studio with green screen and lights, I show her around and we sit on a couch before the computer

I turn to her and turn her head with my finger to kiss her, but she is a bit frightened and explains that she never kissed a guy before. she was also frightened to sit on my lap, but I sat on hers as a joke and then she had no more problem.

I make more attempts to kiss her which she refutes (but after that she bit her lips quiet a bit so I was compelled to push with a kiss). then finally I put her on a couch, and she becomes my height and I a kind of steal a kiss, just a peck on the lips

we play a bit of new star wars jedi whatever and witcher 3 with her on my lap and my hands around her legs and waist, then we kinda just walk around the room hugging, I carry her, she smiles and laughs.

then she really has to go (we spent about 40 min in my apartment) and we get up and go to the bus station, she is kinda quiet, which I interpreted as her being super aroused at the time, we stand on a bus stop, I ask if she wants to hug while waiting, she says no, which was kinda weird at the time.

ANYWAY

i text her "text me when you get there", with my only thoughts of anything done wrong that probably I should have gone easy on kissing attempts, since no one can actually fuck a virgin on a first date anyway.
I text her "fuck, still got the burger from that cafe in my coat pocket"
she replies "hahaha, don't show it to your granma"
here I completely relax about the whole "too many kissing attempts thing"
she texts me "I'm here" along with couple of jokes and friday night ends

FUCKING ANYWAY

two hours ago a guy texts me from new number
"hey"
"you shouln't have offend the girl"

I call him, calmly ask what is he talking about, he says with mild aggression "tell me, man, are you right in the head? a girl told me you hit on her"
at this point I just think this is her frendzoned friend something like 18-19 years old (I am 27), not a big deal at all, so I just talk very calmly like in customer service

I ask to give her the phone, she tells me I was being a bit aggressive, I basically tell her, ok I got it but you could have just told me that yourself without the guy, she says yeah you right, I told her how I liked her really much that she has the same dreams as I do, and we hang up.

after that I record whatsapp mesagges to her, kinda repeating that again and hinting on going to the movie next week and praising her friend for being a courageous guy (still thinking he is fuckin 18yo)
and record message to the guy himself, praising him directly and saying that I really like this girl, so he doesn't think I am some kind of pervy pua predator, and also how I didn't mean to push anyone or take advantage of anyone and that she never explicitly told me No and never pushed me away or anything like that.

then he fucking responds that he understands but he is just so tired to hear every monday morning on a police briefing how many pedophiles and rapists there are in the city and he just doesn't want his friends to be in the victim statistics. he tells me how my words about "and that she never explicitly told me No" will not hold up in court so I should me more careful, that he himself was in this situation and his friends were in this situation. and that he hopes that I resolved it when talking to her on the phone.

SO

do I ever meet this girl again? we kinda sorta have a maybe date next week, and I don't want to ghost her and I don't want to fuckin see her again honestly.
so I am thinking inviting her to the movie once and if i get a NO, that will be the end of that
 

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Dude! That's fucking hilarious! I don't even know where to start.

Top and bottom, don't see her again. You said you don't want to see her so why waste your time? Getting her guy friend to message or call you? What the fuck. Speak for yourself or ghost everyone else does, that shows how immature she is. That guy is also not a policeman. Haha! If he is what he done was highly unethical and he's white knighting. Fuck him dude.

18yo that's not pedophilia haha, that ship sailed about 6 years ago by definition... and what you done was a far cry from rape.

You shouldn't have explained yourself to him or to her. You've just qualified yourself, attraction lost. You've also qualified yourself to her white knight yet you done fuck all dude! She agreed to meet you, she came back to yours. You might have pushed to hard on the kiss but oh well.

He and his friends were in this situation? So he's also a paedophile and rapist by his definition... great police work! Fuck my life Haha
He hopes you resolved it? Yeah alright then.

You can't resolve rape or pedophilia on the phone. You can't resolve sexual assault on the phone.

He's right saying "she didn't say no" doesn't hold up in court. The whole thing of non verbal consent doesn't hold up but neither would her claim...

Seriously next her, she's a cluster B or just totally clueless and reckless. A false rape claim can fuck you over, let her be some idiots headache. You won't have a smooth seduction if she's pulled this stunt and if this is her shit test let her have it.

If when ya calm down you still like her enough to go out, she has to chase. Hard. She needs to make it happen so you have a receipt dude!
 

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this dude's phone number linked to an account selling military uniform, so I kinda believed him))) I won't ever see her again, I just wanted her to be calm, like this wasn't a big deal and god forbid she liked me and I ghosted her, just not to give her any other reason to be mad. thank you so much for this, it's 1 am and all my friends are asleep, so no one to talk to
 

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I qualified to both of them, yeah, but, it's just a way of calming down potentially crazy fucking people, just so there is nothing more to talk about)) of course I don't care about her attraction to me after this shit she pulled.
 

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It wasn't a big deal an she's overreacted. You don't or at least shouldn't tolerate that shit. You stay calm an unfazed an when she's calmed down she will apologise.

It's your decision if you wish to ghost her after this appalling behaviour. Who cares if she changes her mind, likes ya an is now mad? She made her bed she can sleep in it. Fuck her with that shit attitude an if she doesn't realise why ya ignoring her she's brain dead.
 

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Qualifying yourself here accepts what you did was wrong an ya justifying your actions. Why are you justifying yourself to these people? You don't owe them an explanation an if they're that socially clueless leave them to it.

If you wish to calm them rather than ignoring it you re frame it. They're looking at it out of context an they will find a fault with anything you say. The BBC done a documentary looking at the manisphere, pua, roosh etc and clearly didn't paint seduction in a good light because it doesn't please the view society has created.

If you take this out of context everything is wrong to society. Cold approach, fast escalation, manhandle kisses, being dominant. All not accepted in society. Try an explain that stuff to friends that don't get it an you seem weird dude
 

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Kinda click baited on this one lol... I thought you were getting charged with sexual assault or something..

Uh yeah I'd leave that girl alone and move on. Not worth it. Walk.
 

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Kinda click baited on this one lol... I thought you were getting charged with sexual assault or something..

Uh yeah I'd leave that girl alone and move on. Not worth it. Walk.
Yeah I click baited this as well expecting something like that Rob dude!
 

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fuck, now I feel bad about qualifying to them. should've just got her on the line and after asking what is whong just said: well, I won't try to kiss you anymore, got it. keep it 30 sec conversation and after block both
 

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fuck, now I feel bad about qualifying to them. should've just got her on the line and after asking what is whong just said: well, I won't try to kiss you anymore, got it. keep it 30 sec conversation and after block both

Its all good man. Main thing is you aren't getting a criminal charge and should prob be a little bit less aggressive escalating or at least more calibrated to the girl. But no harm no foul.
 

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A couple months ago I had a chick try to push me off my friends balcony because I wouldn’t take her virginity. Idk why any grown man would want some sexually inexperienced young girl. Plenty of young girls with sexual experience out there.
 
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thats_a_penis_disgustang

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update:
ok, out of boredom I called her again (2 weeks of silence later)
her story: "she just told her friend what happened and he misunderstood her and she is sorry"

should I meet her again? (dat ass...)
 

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update:
ok, out of boredom I called her again (2 weeks of silence later)
her story: "she just told her friend what happened and he misunderstood her and she is sorry"

should I meet her again? (dat ass...)

No. Resist the urge and just leave it. Think of all that can go wrong.
 

thats_a_penis_disgustang

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the absolute worst thing that could happen is I actually succeed and fuck her. go figure how quickly she can accuse me of rape if some slightest thing goes wrong. In moments like this (or if I collect a number from a very pretty girl and then find out she is 17) I just think - "leave this one alone, you will be given a suitable replacement of proper qualities"
 
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