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I’m an AI believer – I think it’s going to change the world – and I am also interested in the loneliness crisis that seems to make dating suck. Then I stumbled upon AI dating apps and I had to do some detective work.
Before my investigation, I had heard mixed reviews of apps like these: some say they’re an embarrassment, just spitting out cheesy lines like a mindless conveyor belt. Others say that they’re actually a very efficient and reliable way to get dates on apps like Tinder and Bumble, and make dating seem less like a part-time job.
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The bottom line of all of this? Wingman is the best AI dating assistant by far – if you’re looking to change your online dating situation, that’s the app to use. For people with actual game, like on skilled seducer, the Wingman app might surprise even you. It knows the game and seduction principles that are critical for anyone who wants to go far.
Rizz is a very glitzy app that clearly has some brilliant marketers and growth hackers behind it, but it’s all style over substance that probably won’t get you more dates. And PlugAI seems to be a half-baked app that I really wouldn’t recommend to anyone.
Before my investigation, I had heard mixed reviews of apps like these: some say they’re an embarrassment, just spitting out cheesy lines like a mindless conveyor belt. Others say that they’re actually a very efficient and reliable way to get dates on apps like Tinder and Bumble, and make dating seem less like a part-time job.
Wingman Live
- Available on: Wingman Live has mobile apps on the Google Play store (Android) and the App Store (iOS). It also has a webapp that you can use on your desktop or browser.
- General Impression: Wingman is the new kid on the block and is the most comprehensive of the three apps. It has three features that are go from “kinda good” to “excellent”: A “conversation genius” that gives suggested openers or replies for Tinder; a “profile roaster” that reviews, rates, and critiques individual profile pictures; a Chatbot Dating Coach that you talk to like ChatGPT.
- Wingman Feature 1 – Convo Genius: The first Wingman analyzes Tinder or text convos, gives sentiment analysis and gives suggested replies or openers that are appropriate for the conversation, in order to get dates. It works very flexibly: you can just put pictures of your match, just conversation screenshots you have, or mix both types of images for analysis. You can in more custom details in a “context” box to explain to the AI what you’re doing. The AI is very good at making sense of how the images relate to one another.
- The “sentiment analysis” output of the Convo Genius is excellent. It gives a paragraph of useful info about both photographs – it pulls out useful information, like what her likely hobbies are, like cosplay, or where her travel pics are – and useful info about your text convo so far, like how it’s going.
- The “suggested replies” output work as both openers on Tinder and replies, depending on what you need. You can keep hitting the “new reply”. In terms of quality, the suggested replies are just pretty good. Sometimes they’re brilliant, but sometimes they’re too cheesy or too forward. For the image I just used a girl in multiple cosplays and sure enough, it pointed them out. It was so good at identifying these that I thought the team behind this app must be into cosplay, but it also works on things like cars and locations and characters from media. You can easily copy these responses with one tap.
- Wingman Feature 2 – Profile Roaster: The Wingman Live profile roaster is a more straightforward tool than the Convo Helper, and I think it's much stronger – one of the best AI tools I’ve ever seen. It rates your dating photos on a scale from 1 to 10, based on things like: lighting, grooming, style, background, visual storytelling, facial expression, how interesting your life/social situation looks… everything that can be fixed and optimized. It is not a hot-or-not app, however, and won’t criticize your appearance, but it will tell you how to make the hand you’re dealt work for you. It rates:
- Individual pictures. You get about 2 paragraphs of a review of every dating pic you upload. It tells you what you did right, what you did wrong, and how you can improve your picture in any way.
- Your whole profile. Once you have uploaded more than one photo, you can get a holistic critique of your whole profile. The Profile Roaster tells you how to round out your profile by covering your bases with a balance of different kinds of pictures, and tells you how your pics work together.
- Wingman Feature 3 – Dating Coach Chatbot: This is the simplest of the three Wingman features. It’s like ChatGPT, but it’s a custom AI that’s specific for dating advice. It’s billed as uncensored and as far as I can tell, this holds true. This is a very strong feature and much different (and better) than advice ChatGPT would give. ChatGPT dithers and gives really safe wishy-washy advice, but the Wingman chatbot gives very confident and decisive advice that mostly nails it. I tested the chatbot on "game" concepts like autorejection, social proof, sarging, etc, and it had the whole vocabulary, indicating that it was actually trained on such concepts.
- Pricing: Wingman Live is 6.99 per week on the web and 7.99 on mobile. There are discounts of up to 65% off if you have a payment frequency over a longer period, like every 3 months. You can also try it for free for a limited number of actions.
Rizz
- Available on: Rizz has mobile apps on Android and iOS. However, It does not have a webapp that you can use on your desktop or browser. So you’ll always be using it on your phone, which makes sense for its intended usage.
- General Impressions: In terms of functionality, Rizz is basically the same thing as Wingman’s Profile Roaster feature. You put in a picture of your dating-app match, and you get pickup lines generated custom for that profile – supposedly. The AI seems to produce opening lines based on the details of the image only sometimes. Most of the time, from what I can gather, the app is simply a list of pre-loaded pickup lines that actually have nothing to do with AI.
- Design: Rizz is a slickly designed app that has cool intro screens and intense phone vibrations that come along with using this feature. They definitely know how to grab your attention. But this app is a case of style over substance, as I will explain, and everything seems tailored to get you to subscribe.
- Text Input: Pretty neat that you can manually enter text for folks who tend to favor voice memos (my personal hell lol, but to each their own), with sections for "their reply" and "my reply." This is unique to Rizz and something I didn’t see on the other apps I reviewed, including ones that I haven’t listed.
- Pickup Lines: Rizz has a set list of pickup lines you can use which was fun to look at. I’m not even sure AI is used every time – the app seems to use a list of pre-baked lines, as I said before. They're not custom for each profile which I thought they’d do, but they get pretty wild and outrageous which grabs attention. This one was nuts: “A genie gave me 2 choices when I was little: One was to have perfect memory and the other was to have a huge penis. Unfortunately, I can’t remember which one I chose.”
- Quality of Responses: There are three options to choose from - a genuine reply, a NSFW reply, or a Rizz reply. I noticed there wasn't a huge change between a genuine reply and a Rizz reply which generated expected replies from an AI bot like “Sounds like a tasty plan, enjoy your banana bread making” but there was a noticeable change with the NSFW replies, which were very spicy/sexy. But, the thing is, Rizz’s replies aren’t very good. Spicy NSFW replies don’t work well on dating apps, and the “clean” replies Rizz generates aren’t very good – they’re mechanical and cheesy. In terms of UI, however, Rizz does an excellent job. The one-tap-copy is great, and the whole experience is smooth.
- Price: Rizz is $6.99 per week, but offers a 3-day free trial. You can’t use it without putting your payment info and being on the hook for canceling, however.
Plug AI
- Available on: DatingAI pro has mobile apps on Android and iOS, and also can be used on a web browser -- they don't even have a website. Interestingly on the mobile app stores it’s titled “Rizz AI Assistant DatingAI Pro” – clearly an attempt to capitalize on Rizz’s popularity and poach some customers in searches.
- General Impression: PlugAI is more straightforward and simple than Wingman Live, but has more features than Rizz. It has a Texting Assistant which matches the main feature of Rizz and the Convo Genius of Wingman Live, and it also has a Chatbot like the Wingman Live Chatbot feature (which Rizz lacks an equivalent of). The UI is clean, though it lacks the visual flair that Rizz has.
- Straightforward Buttons: The interface is less slick than the other AI assistants here, with just three large buttons on the homepage, but that makes it a bit easier to navigate.
- Opening Lines: You can adjust the "spiciness" of pickup lines in the settings, but they’re not custom-made for each profile depending on its photos. But these Pickup outright do not use AI – not even some of them, like Rizz does. The opening lines sound quite a bit like you’d read on a “Best Pickup Lines for Tinder” blog post and aren’t very creative. PlugAI seems to really be built for in-person scenarios, which could be helpful if you’ve given up hope on online dating and want help with more in-person flirting. Ex) “You look identical to my girlfriend... let me show you show phone open to selfie camera” which is smooth, but I do not trust that my execution can do that in real life.
- Quality of Responses: Their photo analyzer is terrible as I got random pickup lines that made no sense with the photo I inputted. When I asked it to "gimme more," it kept going off that one topic and wouldn’t generate a different one. I was hoping the model would understand that by generating it over and over again, I wanted the pickup line to be about something different, like their shoes or hair. If you want custom opening lines, you should really go with Wingman.live.
- Price: 3-day free trial, then $6.99 per week – the same as Rizz. But unlike Wingman.live, there is no “free tier” that you can use without putting a credit card in.
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The bottom line of all of this? Wingman is the best AI dating assistant by far – if you’re looking to change your online dating situation, that’s the app to use. For people with actual game, like on skilled seducer, the Wingman app might surprise even you. It knows the game and seduction principles that are critical for anyone who wants to go far.
Rizz is a very glitzy app that clearly has some brilliant marketers and growth hackers behind it, but it’s all style over substance that probably won’t get you more dates. And PlugAI seems to be a half-baked app that I really wouldn’t recommend to anyone.
