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Kshatrap A.V.

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There has always been talk about movies. But what about animes, cuz I am one of those folks who media consumption since past few years or so has been animes. So, I am really interested to know if some guys here have any recomendations I need to watch. Cuz I want to watch those which have strong masculine/adventouros themes so ever older animes are fine. And they need not to mainstream or liked by public either.

I mean the simple reason being what i watch will influence and I also know that anime has a bit a wierd rep but my tastes lie here.

Note: I would prefer them to be pre 2010 if possible but other recommendations are ok.
 
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There has always been talk about movies. But what about animes, cuz I am one of those folks who media consumption since past few years or so has been animes. So, I am really interested to know if some guys here have any recomendations I need to watch. Cuz I want to watch those which have strong masculine/adventouros themes so ever older animes are fine. And they need not to mainstream or liked by public either.

I mean the simple reason being what i watch will influence and I also know that anime has a bit a wierd rep but my tastes lie here.

Note: I would prefer them to be pre 2010 if possible but other recommendations are ok.
How bout death note , Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood,ah classic one piece ,JoJo's bizzare adventure has very masculine themes these are all I could think of for now I'll update you later
 

Kshatrap A.V.

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How bout death note , Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood,ah classic one piece ,JoJo's bizzare adventure has very masculine themes these are all I could think of for now I'll update you later
I already watched death note, brotherhood ( this one just a few days ago ). The story of brotherhood vsm also be interpreted in solving inner game issues a lot. Their whole journey was to get back what they lost and something similar happens when men " lose " their real self due to trauma and failure.

Haven't watched jojo. But I will.

I have watched attack on titan,.Vinland saga, hajime no ippo, Baki, kengan ashura, monster ( midway), parasyte but tbh hard to keep on finding others with that level of edge.

I have watcted Mushoku tensei ( it's "going out the Gate" scene resonated too much with me ) and other isekais too and .

"Redo of the healer" is good too if you are into revenge stuff.

I have watched demon slayer but quit it cuz i just personally couldn't stand tanjiro being crybaby. My tastes. You may diagree.
 

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I was going to say Monster but I see you are already there.

If you enjoy parasyte-like anime, I would recommend Ajin.
 

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I have watched my fair share of anime and I dont think there is any of them who I can suggest for building social or seductive skills.

For starters, most of what gets popular is aimed at teenagers (shounen?)... thats why usually themes like the power of friendship, discovering the world and martial arts take so much spotlight.

Also, I dont feel like social skills is even a subject of interest in japanese culture. Anytime a couple is depicted, it seems to simply just happen.
Its not even bad... its like the buildup and resolution is just ignored.
Even the most "adult" anime I watched like Hunter x Hunter and the late parts of Jojo pay little attention to the topic.

Maybe you can get good role models on general masculinity from some titles.
But seduction and social skills... it would seem that manga artist ate oblivious to them.
 

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When my daughter was young, she was a Sailor Moon fan and saw some anime videos I put back telling her they weren't Sailor Moon (they were x-rated). I doubt they would be PUA shows though.
 

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Maybe you can get good role models on general masculinity from some titles.
But seduction and social skills... it would seem that manga artist ate oblivious to them.
I was in fact thinking about this, regarding some very typical shonen protagonists, like Goku and Luffy.

What happens is that they are super charismatic, they make friends of everyone, they change bad guys to good guys, everyone follows them and they are clearly the alpha of their groups.

So I do think there are certain behaviours that you can pay attention to, even in these kind of shows.

They may be plain characters, but they do have some of the strongest frames in all of fiction, they are just sucking people in left and right.

For example Luffy has this very specific goal to become king of the pirates, his whole life is about this and he is literally happy to die doing it.

It shows how strong willed you can be when you know what you are about and you go after your mission.

He is also so pure that he has no filter and you can literally not shame him for anything. He does not feel the need to explain himself or qualify.

Heck even game wise, you could argue that Luffy follows Tao of Steve religiously even if not deliberately. It’s not just luck that the most beautiful character in the story is all over him, it makes sense by how he treats her.

You can go further with this, and of course it wouldn’t be possible to apply their whole personality in real life, but I do think that this shonen protagonist character type that originated from Goku does have certain traits that are worth looking at from a social dynamics perspective.
 

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I was in fact thinking about this, regarding some very typical shonen protagonists, like Goku and Luffy.

What happens is that they are super charismatic, they make friends of everyone, they change bad guys to good guys, everyone follows them and they are clearly the alpha of their groups.

I don't know, man. I feel like youre trying too hard to make it work.

These are very fantastical characters that live in very fantastical worlds where other charcaters do not exactly react like normal people.
These are power fantasies after all.

Characters like Luffy and Goku are often described as dumb for a reason... acting like them in the real world will have people treating you like a simpleton outside of the areas where you excel... similar to how acting like Batman will make people distrust and avoid you.

And dont get me started on women in anime... Boa Hanckok has to be one of the worst female characters in history.

Anyway, just saying... dont read too much into anime... particularly if it is aimed at teenagers.
Enjoy it for the world building, the power fantasies and the solid plots they have.

You can get solid role and social skills models from other places.
 

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Characters like Luffy and Goku are often described as dumb for a reason... acting like them in the real world will have people treating you like a simpleton outside of the areas where you excel... similar to how acting like Batman will make people distrust and avoid you.
Anyway, just saying... dont read too much into anime... particularly if it is aimed at teenagers.
Enjoy it for the world building, the power fantasies and the solid plots they have.

You can get solid role and social skills models from other places.
I do agree with these points.

I wouldn’t say to anyone go watch dragonball to learn about social skills and get good role models. And as I said in my post you can for sure not go and apply the whole personality of these people in real life, since as you say they are super dump by most normal life standards.

That said, I do believe that looking into the way the characters work, and interact with each other, even in their fantasy world there are some aspects of real human social interactions that you can recognise.

There is a reason that Goku always ends up stronger than Vegeta character wise for example and it is that Goku pushes his own limits and wants to get as strong as possible, while Vegeta is content as long as he surpasses Goku and becomes the strongest.

From this we could say that you should always be striving to be better today than yourself yesterday, and not compare yourself to others.

Is this a pulled by the hair analogy? Could be, but it is something that can make sense, it’s not out of total thin air.

In the end, I simply believe that apart from all the flash and the fights, a lot of these characters appeal to people because they do have some strong, easily recognizable characteristics. And you can see them by how they push the plot forward and the effect they have on the story.

So if someone can take some lessons in this way, I would say it is valid, for sure though not the recommended way to build your understanding of human nature and your model of your personal life.
 

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There has always been talk about movies. But what about animes, cuz I am one of those folks who media consumption since past few years or so has been animes. So, I am really interested to know if some guys here have any recomendations I need to watch. Cuz I want to watch those which have strong masculine/adventouros themes so ever older animes are fine. And they need not to mainstream or liked by public either.

I mean the simple reason being what i watch will influence and I also know that anime has a bit a wierd rep but my tastes lie here.

Note: I would prefer them to be pre 2010 if possible but other recommendations are ok.

For Masculine anime you’ll have to find another guy for that. However I usually keep anime running in the back ground of me playing video games. So I watch a lot of it.

Perhaps I should get into what my friends are doing which is gambling on apps and watching TV.

Anyways if you like watching Anime titties I always recommend Maken Ki and Senran Kagura. *[I watched Senran during winter]

For fighting anime’s Baki is my all time favorite. Something about a guy using a supersonic punch in throwing hands with a pre historic cave man just slaps.

For if you want to hit on Asian chicks and need a commonality with them, Attack on Titan, Demon Slayer.

For if you are trying to get the easiest lays at a convention there will always be a group of 5’s and 6’s dressed in Soul Eater and Jojo garb.

Aloha
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For Masculine anime you’ll have to find another guy for that. However I usually keep anime running in the back ground of me playing video games. So I watch a lot of it.

Perhaps I should get into what my friends are doing which is gambling on apps and watching TV.

Anyways if you like watching Anime titties I always recommend Maken Ki and Senran Kagura. *[I watched Senran during winter]

For fighting anime’s Baki is my all time favorite. Something about a guy using a supersonic punch in throwing hands with a pre historic cave man just slaps.

For if you want to hit on Asian chicks and need a commonality with them, Attack on Titan, Demon Slayer.

For if you are trying to get the easiest lays at a convention there will always be a group of 5’s and 6’s dressed in Soul Eater and Jojo garb.

Aloha
MuSt0

Sorry to double post but I use https://9animetv.to/

and if you use brave browser you won’t get any ads while watching. *[Also gets rid of ads on YouTube if you watch in the browser on a phone which is a double bonuss]
 

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@Kshatrap A.V.,

Cuz I want to watch those which have strong masculine/adventouros themes so ever older animes are fine. And they need not to mainstream or liked by public either.

Berserk (1997 version) is good as far as "hold frame, don't get sucked into anyone else's frame, always be the guy who is walking away." But of course you need to do more than just hold frame and walk away to seduce.

Cowboy Bebop (1998) has some pretty masculine characters in it. The two main male characters, Spike and Jet Black, are both pretty masculine guys. Decent senses of humor and good frame control. Though of course they don't show them seducing (also: Spike has a lethal case of oneitis).

Steins;Gate (2011) has probably the closest to an effective seducer personality (in Okabe, the main character) of any character I've seen in an anime. Okabe:

  • Gives everyone around him nicknames
  • Is constantly role-playing with everyone
  • Constantly makes compliance demands then defuses any resistance to these
  • Is so pattern interruptive with his role-plays and nicknames he throws everyone else off
  • Has absurd confidence that it's impossible to tell is genuine or just him fucking with everyone
  • Basically is always in control of the frame, while at the same time actively sucking others into his frame

Other than that, most anime don't really seem to have very mature ideas of attraction.

Most of it is just like "male protagonist saves female protagonist who then falls in love with him."

Occasionally some of them wrap in other elements (like "woman suspects there is more to man than meets the eye"), but it's never the man intentionally being seductive; it is always just him being an inadvertent Byronic hero as a result of (whatever backstory reason).

Chase
 

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Cuz I want to watch those which have strong masculine/adventouros themes so ever older animes are fine. And they need not to mainstream or liked by public either.
- ninja scroll;
- cowboy bebop;
- berserk (the 90s version);
- fist of the north star;
- evangelion (if you need a protagonist to hate);
- yu yu hakusho;
- vinland saga;
- helsing;
- ghost in the shell;
- red line;
 

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Steins;Gate (2011) has probably the closest to an effective seducer personality (in Okabe, the main character) of any character I've seen in an anime. Okabe:

  • Gives everyone around him nicknames
  • Is constantly role-playing with everyone
  • Constantly makes compliance demands then defuses any resistance to these
  • Is so pattern interruptive with his role-plays and nicknames he throws everyone else off
  • Has absurd confidence that it's impossible to tell is genuine or just him fucking with everyone
  • Basically is always in control of the frame, while at the same time actively sucking others into his frame
That’s a really interesting analysis. I wasn’t into game when I watched Steins;Gate but it makes sense, Okabe was always surrounded by cute girls.

The characterisation of these girls though was a pain to go through till the plot got some pace, this “tuturu” is still haunting me. No idea if real life japanese girls like this exist, but although cute, they felt borderline annoying.

Back to Okabe, no way I’m going through that show again, but maybe I should go watch some videos and pay attention to these points.

I don’t remember him being particularly focused on seducing though, so probably his personality just had these seductive elements in how over the top he was.

One thing I don’t remember well is if he ever had any real male competition. It was more of a harem situation with him managing it, which is by no means easy but it kinda felt sometimes he was the only viable male option in their lives.
 

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Some examples not yet mentioned...

Kamina from Gurren Lagann to me represents one of the most masculine characters in all of anime.
Gurren Lagann also has great themes about masculinity in general, I've seen guys say they would've been completely different if they had watched it when they were younger.

I agree that anime doesn't have a lot of seduction/social skill models.
There is one I can think of, the main protagonist of one of the best romance anime-- Kare Kano (same director as Evangelion).

I watched Kare Kano around the time I started reading Girlschase, and felt the main character, Arima, aligned with the GC concepts I was learning.
I think Hector talked about how male characters in romance novels embodied seduction principals, so maybe it's similar to that. Kare Kano is a great show too :)

..
As for the most hype seduction I've seen in all of anime/manga... that would go to a scene in Baby Steps (it was more hype than any of the tennis matches the main character won... Made me jump out of my chair...). Not really informative when it comes to learning seduction though 😝.
 
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I don't know, man. I feel like youre trying too hard to make it work.

These are very fantastical characters that live in very fantastical worlds where other charcaters do not exactly react like normal people.
These are power fantasies after all.

Characters like Luffy and Goku are often described as dumb for a reason... acting like them in the real world will have people treating you like a simpleton outside of the areas where you excel... similar to how acting like Batman will make people distrust and avoid you.

And dont get me started on women in anime... Boa Hanckok has to be one of the worst female characters in history.

Anyway, just saying... dont read too much into anime... particularly if it is aimed at teenagers.
Enjoy it for the world building, the power fantasies and the solid plots they have.

You can get solid role and social skills models from other places.
Idk socially you may get nothing out of them for sure but certain characteristics are def valuable for example Goku and Luffy's resilience ,

shonen has themes of well if you are weak you have to get stronger may seem simple but the desire to constantly get stronger has been a driving force to me everytime I used to go out and hit reps especially when I had huge approach anxiety I used to get inspired by such characters especially deku from my hero academia just trying to improve his powers technique and its efficiency I saw me a lot going out hitting reps and getting rejected but learning from such and just improving my technique, myself and the efficiency of my seduction. I am literally inspired by anime and of course.

Anyway with @Kshatrap A.V. if you ever feel like Shonen is too teenager ish just try Seinen anime you'll find some gems there.
 

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- ninja scroll;
- cowboy bebop;
- berserk (the 90s version);
- fist of the north star;
- evangelion (if you need a protagonist to hate);
- yu yu hakusho;
- vinland saga;
- helsing;
- ghost in the shell;
- red line;
You have a nice taste @POB 😂
 
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