Are we in denial about how easy it is to get laid when you are younger?

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Whether it be high school or college, just the ages of 16-21 in general.

I tend to read a lot of PUA material whether it is this site or others and I have to say, it seems like the whole being easier when you are older thing is overplayed. It isn't really a value or game thing, it is an opportunity thing. You don't get the opportunity to be around as many single women and forced to interact with them like you do in college or high school, so I have to say, unless you're a PUA pro or cold approach master, I am not sure how it gets easier as you get older.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Proactivity,

I am not sure how it gets easier as you get older.

It gets easier as you get older. until you go downwards at 40 if you are not in shape, at least decently, and have a "good job" = manager at least by title .

I have older women smelling me from far and get caught by surprise by younger women today. But i think what you mean is it is easier to fail. What do i mean by this?

I mean that, just like fundamentals.

As you get better, women are more ruthless. In a position i am in now, i don't dress too much too often but girls smell me. So younger women will pass me up if i doubt myself. Older women will delay the process and make me doubt myself if i doubt myself.

This is me at 28. Not lying to you, at all. It is like the game of life, afterall. The game of life is for the awareness to recognize itself. Which ironically spreads to all areas of life including dating.

Zac

 

[Sub-Zero]

You're right I would say it is easier because of all if the opportunity you have with girls in school, but not all guys are confident enough to lay girls like how they are when they're older. The only reason it's easier in that aspect is because there are so many women, but you yourself won't have the game you will get later in life.

Another thing, girls still are girls, they still play games, and go off of what they think is attractive or not, so that's the only benefit I can see from school is just the fact there are many girls, but you have to manage your rep heavy compared to when you get older.

There's many men who didn't get good with women until later in life after school.

The game gets easier when you're older if you have been really in the game. There's many times a girl will turn you down because you're too young, but once you're older it's fine. And you do get cooler when you get older, well hopefully.

You don't have to be a pro or a master, you just have to be around more women and bag them.

That said, I don't know if you're stressing about it or just making an observation, but even if a dude did fuck a lot of girls in school, he would still have to learn how to cold approach, and learn game if he wants to get more women after school, it's a whole different game from school.

So yeah, School= more opportunity, After School= Better You.

Whether it be high school or college, just the ages of 16-21 in general.

I tend to read a lot of PUA material whether it is this site or others and I have to say, it seems like the whole being easier when you are older thing is overplayed. It isn't really a value or game thing, it is an opportunity thing. You don't get the opportunity to be around as many single women and forced to interact with them like you do in college or high school, so I have to say, unless you're a PUA pro or cold approach master, I am not sure how it gets easier as you get older.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Its the more opportunity part that is killing me though, I wonder how the hell you make that a possibility as an adult man without having to rely on PUA cold approach tactics.

 

[trashKENNUT]

PA,

Its the more opportunity part that is killing me though, I wonder how the hell you make that a possibility as an adult man without having to rely on PUA cold approach tactics.

Just go out every weekend and be a master at creating delusion that you a pimp or you own that place. But like advertising, most people do not tell you or most instagram women or most guys won't tell you is..... those women stand very long and take millions of shots for their instagram, not all girls or all girls didn't sleep with them or we just friends.

But eventually the tribe wants something, and every person is selfish. They eventually want you to tickle their balls abit. You can create delusion that you a pimp in the arena but like everything else in life , you have to put in the time. (thank you Chase)

Zac

 

[slazenger]

I don't know much about PUA (I read The Game years back - that's about it) - I have no strong opinion, positive or negative, but I can tell you that I get laid a ton more and with considerably hotter women than I ever did in my 20s (I'm in my early-50s). I think it's largely because professional success and resources increased my confidence to the extent that it became really easy (by my mid-30s) to attract hot women. Also, I stayed in good shape and, by luck, didn't lose any hair (although it's gray now). I think the only reason this isn't more common is that so many men are married at my age. If you're single and have success, resources, confidence and haven't let yourself go to hell... you're going to have an easy time of things when you get older. Most folks in their 20s still haven't figured out where they stand - this is the norm. My worst period with women was my early-20s, best period has been the last five years to the present (I was in a relationship for almost a decade). Also, and this is pretty critical frankly, I live in Latin America... girls in the USA can't even carry the luggage of Colombians and Venezuelans... two different planets. Anyhow, you have a lot to look forward to - it all gets easier - if you play your cards right. Just my dos pesos, of course.

 

[Franco]

Proactivity,

It's a bit of two things combined:

• 1. As you get older, you have the opportunity to get more experience and more "skill" if you are approaching or are around women enough. Your skill can reach levels that you'd never reach in college, for example, so your "ability" to get laid can indeed be much stronger as you get older.
  2. Opportunities are most abundant in college, but since your skill level will be nowhere near that of an older, skilled man, your lay rate may still not be anywhere near where an older, skilled male's is at.

If you put in the work, you can technically exceed the amount of lays a sex-savvy college student gets in college. Even while opportunities are abundant, the lack of skill (and knowledge) will often prevent many college students from closing properly on girls who are often readily available. But a guy in his 30s with a ton of experience and skill can take what seems like a lack of opportunities and create opportunities out of thin air. That's how good some guys can actually be at this.

So, for the guy who continues to age but does not continue to increase his skills, he will be in the worst position. His opportunities will be low, and his "skill" will be low, and thus it will seem to him like college was "easier" because opportunities were more abundant and his ability to convert opportunities seemed "better." However, for the guy who continues to age and aggressively works on his skills and his fundamentals combined with his experience, lays can actually seem to be more abundant because he can create opportunities in times and areas where the college student would see none.

I hope this makes sense. This is why it's important to constantly be improving yourself so that you don't "fall behind the curve," so to speak. If at any point in time after college you feel like women are suddenly "harder" to come by, then that is probably a signal that your ability to meet and bed women is falling behind your own age and current situation. So it's a good time to step up, go out, and start practicing more to catch up.

- Franco

 

[Sub-Zero]

Hey Franco,

How important do you think the college experience is? (Talking about girls mostly)

I'm a lil older so I'm focused on money, I might get a 9-5 and have to go to night school, but someone I know told me that I won't have the experience of I go at night. Dude told me to take out loans and work part time, thing is I got hella bills man, but I do want an easier opportunity to fuck women and get more experience.

What's your opinion?

Proactivity,

It's a bit of two things combined:

• 1. As you get older, you have the opportunity to get more experience and more "skill" if you are approaching or are around women enough. Your skill can reach levels that you'd never reach in college, for example, so your "ability" to get laid can indeed be much stronger as you get older.
  2. Opportunities are most abundant in college, but since your skill level will be nowhere near that of an older, skilled man, your lay rate may still not be anywhere near where an older, skilled male's is at.

If you put in the work, you can technically exceed the amount of lays a sex-savvy college student gets in college. Even while opportunities are abundant, the lack of skill (and knowledge) will often prevent many college students from closing properly on girls who are often readily available. But a guy in his 30s with a ton of experience and skill can take what seems like a lack of opportunities and create opportunities out of thin air. That's how good some guys can actually be at this.

So, for the guy who continues to age but does not continue to increase his skills, he will be in the worst position. His opportunities will be low, and his "skill" will be low, and thus it will seem to him like college was "easier" because opportunities were more abundant and his ability to convert opportunities seemed "better." However, for the guy who continues to age and aggressively works on his skills and his fundamentals combined with his experience, lays can actually seem to be more abundant because he can create opportunities in times and areas where the college student would see none.

I hope this makes sense. This is why it's important to constantly be improving yourself so that you don't "fall behind the curve," so to speak. If at any point in time after college you feel like women are suddenly "harder" to come by, then that is probably a signal that your ability to meet and bed women is falling behind your own age and current situation. So it's a good time to step up, go out, and start practicing more to catch up.

- Franco

 

[Franco]

Sub-Zero,

Hey Franco,

How important do you think the college experience is? (Talking about girls mostly)

I'm a lil older so I'm focused on money, I might get a 9-5 and have to go to night school, but someone I know told me that I won't have the experience of I go at night. Dude told me to take out loans and work part time, thing is I got hella bills man, but I do want an easier opportunity to fuck women and get more experience.

What's your opinion?

It really depends on what is important to you right now. In general, the more time you invest in work, the less time you'll be able to invest in women... and vice versa. But if your work/career is what is most important to you right now, then that's totally fine if you want to invest more time into that.

As far as the college experience, it's just more "experience" is all. It's not going to make or break your future. It can only do that if you let it do that (by making the assumption that college is somehow that ultimate experience that every guy needs -- which I can tell you it's not). That being said, a guy who spent a lot of time practicing social skills in college will certainly initially have a leg-up on a guy who's now practicing his social skills in his mid-20s with no college experience. So it's just a difference in the amount of experience gained; but just like in any video game, what do you do when you're behind in experience? You go farm even harder to level up and catch up.

You'll have to sort out what your "wants" and "needs" are. Do you need to get good with women right now? Do you need to make extra money right now? Do you want a part time job? Do you need a part time job?

Once you can answer questions like this, your path will become more clear.

- Franco

 

[Sub-Zero]

I want both to be honest, I feel it's a good opportunity to get many girls in a setting, but I think it would be foolish of me to take out crazy loans, I have bills to pay. I think the only solution I could think of is finding a night job and going during the day. I'm not going to go to campus full time just maybe a class or 2 and online. I want to be able to go to college and experience the chicks and socialize. To me they're both needs, that's what sucks. Because if I want to go to campus, I gotta drive there, so I need a full-time job #1 to pay for that and bills. Loans and only cover so much. I do agree that going to school is an easier way to meet girls tho, but I gotta get this paper.

Hope to have this figured out very soon. It's good to know that the college opportunity isn't so important because I don't want to miss out.

Thanks

Sub-Zero,

Hey Franco,

How important do you think the college experience is? (Talking about girls mostly)

I'm a lil older so I'm focused on money, I might get a 9-5 and have to go to night school, but someone I know told me that I won't have the experience of I go at night. Dude told me to take out loans and work part time, thing is I got hella bills man, but I do want an easier opportunity to fuck women and get more experience.

What's your opinion?

It really depends on what is important to you right now. In general, the more time you invest in work, the less time you'll be able to invest in women... and vice versa. But if your work/career is what is most important to you right now, then that's totally fine if you want to invest more time into that.

As far as the college experience, it's just more "experience" is all. It's not going to make or break your future. It can only do that if you let it do that (by making the assumption that college is somehow that ultimate experience that every guy needs -- which I can tell you it's not). That being said, a guy who spent a lot of time practicing social skills in college will certainly initially have a leg-up on a guy who's now practicing his social skills in his mid-20s with no college experience. So it's just a difference in the amount of experience gained; but just like in any video game, what do you do when you're behind in experience? You go farm even harder to level up and catch up.

You'll have to sort out what your "wants" and "needs" are. Do you need to get good with women right now? Do you need to make extra money right now? Do you want a part time job? Do you need a part time job?

Once you can answer questions like this, your path will become more clear.

- Franco

 

[BetaBoy]

Game progresses with time, time ages you so no.

 

[Fuck This]

Single Female to Male ratios improve as we age. http://jonathansoma.com/singles/

We earn more money as we advance in our career.

As we advance in our career, we have more free time

More free time + more money means ability to do activities where single females are as well.
Experience improves our skill at reading peoples emotions, and relating to them.
Experience reminds us that we don't NEED a woman to make us happy and successful which feeds the self confidence, which makes us more attractive to women.
Experience with women reminds us that we can get them, and we have succeeded.

Frankly, maturity and confidence is attractive to women. at 16-20 we are still learning what it is to be a man and we don't have enough experience to be confident. False bravado is easy to see through.

I don't think going to college later in life is a ticket to improving social skills. However if it advances your career, then it will open up more time to meet women.

Want to get better at socializing? Do retail sales in a low pressure environment. Like retail. Talk to hundreds of people a day. Learn to make small talk a directed conversation. Learn to steer the conversation learn to make people talk about themselves. Create relationships....