LR Asian Babe Encounters the Day Gamer

[Kshatrap A.V.]

No but imagine.. How would you react if one of your lays came here and wrote a reverse report on you? Would you want it taken down or would you secretly be flattered?

Flattered.

But the only real risk is someone knowing this side of me. Which is highly unlikely as nobody really has their real image or their name on this website.

 

[AsianBabe69]

But the only real risk is someone knowing this side of me. Which is highly unlikely as nobody really has their real image or their name on this website

Right, so you're probably fine. But his image wasn't on this website. It was on another PUA site along with his alias, from there found another old site of his, then old mASF archives, etcetera... and found my way here.

Flattered.

You sure you wouldn't think she's a psycho? ..I mean I guess curiosity and wanting to learn about each other is a love language too.. But I was also making sure I didn't sleep with some criminal or an STD ridden guy.

I forgot the whole context but remember he said to me "Doesn't everyone judge everyone?" and I said "Sure, to an extent." Was I surprised to find out? A little, but it makes sense now and tbh I don't judge him - I'm sure it was a valuable experience and frankly, I'm a little impressed.

Anyways, don't underestimate your lays..

 

[Kshatrap A.V.]

Anyways, don't underestimate your lays..

Nobody who truly decides to be a lover of women really underestimates them.

Otherwise why would this site even exist.

 

[AsianBabe69]

Otherwise why would this site even exist.

Why indeed... Anyways, I've left enough clues laying around.

If this also helps get more views for GC, then it benefits everyone right? I write down my feelings and observations, you guys get to look inside the female psyche and see how a former veteran games but through the woman's POV. The former veteran gets a massive ego boost if he ever reads this, for better or worse.

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"Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get." - Dale Carnegie

Keep playin',

AsianBabe69

 

[Francis]

Right, so you're probably fine. But his image wasn't on this website. It was on another PUA site along with his alias, from there found another old site of his, then old mASF archives, etcetera... and found my way here

D20 is a guy in his 30's who has a public pickup persona with his picture out there, and was on mASF?

 

[Francis]

D20 is a guy in his 30's who has a public pickup persona with his picture out there, and was on mASF?

Oh no I see 40's now... If he is now 30's and was active at that level, that would be pretty rare

 

[mirror]

Can you write what made you think he has studied seduction? He does seem experienced and I like some of his moves (though haven't fully read in detail yet). But to be honest I did not see any recognizable tactics. More like general behavior of an experienced natural or something (later in interaction, not the early pickup).

I will go through and quote things you did vs. he did when my exam's over.

BTW opportunity cost is an economics concept of what you give up. So not pursuing you incurs the cost. It's like if I invest $100 in company A and make $20, I cannot invest my hundred in company B which would make $30. So my opportunity cost of choosing A is $10. Cost of lost opportunity.

It's very interesting interacting with a female perspective completely open about seduction. I think there have been girls like this over the years on other forums. For me it's a first. Lilly doesn't fully count due to level of concept knowledge.

Really?

 

[Francis]

Really?

Really what?

I can still go over it and pare it down to action steps in M3 sections.

Given who I think it is, this is especially interesting from a chase framing perspective. But to be honest, it's basically a green report. There's no element of flipping her, just forward movement.

It's still an incomplete picture without D20's perspective. We can't see the missing pieces like on the Skills website. But it's much more interesting than "omg it was fate... I just tripped onto his dick..."

 

[Francis]

What is the reason for not posting his username?

I don't see why he would care. It's not that different than him posting a lay report. Besides posting a large city, there are no doxxing elements.

 

[AsianBabe69]

pare it down to action steps in M3 sections.

Here you go, let me know how I did..

Attraction:
A1 - Approach: The benches are arranged side by side rows. I open the group around me, which includes him who is sitting on the bench to the right of me.

A2 - Female to Male Interest: D20 demonstrates high value when telling me about his experience in Vietnam, and his interesting job. This triggers my curiosity so I ask him more about his experience, job and ask him if he's a local.

A3 - Male to Female Interest: D20 rewards me with smiles and feel good energy. He invests more by asking me about my passions - art and how I developed an interest in it. He also asks me if I came to the event alone or with anyone.

Comfort:
C1 - Conversation: Body language during conversation is positive and energy is very friendly and respectful. But there is ambiguous intent and underlying attraction detected between us.

C2 - Connection: When he asks to see something, and notices it's on my hat, I lean in a bit and tilt it downward so he can have a closer look. He leans in at this point too. When I tilt my hat back upwards, attraction spikes when our eyes meet for about 3 seconds. His pupils are dilating. More moments like this occur at their next get together when they make each other laugh and make frequent eye contact. It feels like they're inside a bubble around each other.
The flirting really starts when they start sending each other voice messages - complimenting each other, being very curious about one another, and sounding flirty or sensual in their voice. The writing is on the wall.

C3 - Intimacy: They meet up at a restaurant one evening for tea and some food. They build more connection via conversation, sharing more stories, and I disclose a vulnerable detail about my family - trust is being built. There is a lot more kino. He doesn't eat anything though, he had a big steak and egg brunch earlier apparently, hmmm . I ate a bit of sushi and seaweed salad. We walk back to my place, and we screen each other a bit and there is a bit of shit testing, but also sex talk and he shares a wild story from Asia. Once we both conclude what will likely happen in our minds based on our past behavior - he escalates and picks up the artist off the couch and takes her to the bedroom.

Seduction:
S1 - Foreplay: Our sides land onto the bed and he continues to hold me in his arms. We start to embrace each other more fully. He brushes his lips and nose against my lips till it becomes a kiss. Then we keep kissing and start making out, and we keep feeling each other up while gradually stripping away our clothes.

S2 - LMR: There's not really any hesitation - (I forget to pack my LMR and ASD when I travel?) We just briefly talk about foreplay. Then he says he wants to show me midplay...

S3 - Sex: While I'm on my back he grabs my legs, pulls off my panties and slides himself inside me. He didn't ask if I was on BC beforehand though - which I thought was strange.. but things happened so quickly. I told him while he was thrusting I was on the non-hormonal IUD and he said "yeah I figured you'd stop me if you weren't on BC." I was like "ehhh okay fair.. I guess." I moan in his ear and my hands hold onto his neck/shoulders. Then I run my hands through his hair, he keeps fucking me in missionary for a while and kisses me till it all feels too good for him, and then we switch into doggy position which feels so fucking good to me. He gets tired so then we go to spoon-fucking until he cums inside me and lets out a sexy moan. We fuck more the next morning, and following night too.

It's still an incomplete picture without D20's perspective.

Sure! BRB let me go remove my IUD, get a divorce, move closer to him and then I'll ask him for you. (joking of course..for now)

What is the reason for not posting his username?

I don't see why he would care. It's not that different than him posting a lay report. Besides posting a large city, there are no doxxing elements.

It's not really my call. I'd have to defer and ask permission from @Chase or mods if that's allowed ...But I'm pretty sure since D20 wanted his PUA trail erased, he does not want his alias/username to be further referenced nor mentioned on public threads. Am I correct guys?

Feel free to DM me if you've got more questions. But for now, I'm going to refrain from posting his username.

 

[Francis]

FYI for the guys, she confirmed in PM... She is legit. Not IRT.

I thought it was A2damir, but it is not.

I'll go through it if I have time after my FR or LR later.

 

[Francis]

With the guy you cheated on with? You are still in contact? I do not need a TV for entertainment with lay reports to read...

If he is someone here and told you to post, that is hilarious and pretty cool.

My conception of "natural" is someone who developed from early experience without knowledge of concepts (even if he came to the same conclusions independently).

It's mutually exclusive from someone who has studied at all. An example is Skills who was a natural first, then found the community after. So he's more supernatural, like former natural.

Guy who teaches himself to swim - natural

Guy who started with lessons - "PUA" swim artist

Guy who taught himself then got instruction later in life - former / no longer a "natural"

Correction for the class:

"Supernatural game" is a Beckster term. Gotta give credit.

From his reverse engineering, observing naturals in London as a nightclub promoter, plus technical game, NLP, etc.

 

[AsianBabe69]

"Supernatural game" is a Beckster term. Gotta give credit.

Supernatural, I like that. It's also a great show (aside from filler episodes), gotta love Sam and Dean.

As discussed in our DMs, I will not be sharing any more details on D20 nor disclose his username/alias here in the public forums.

I thought it was A2damir, but it is not.

From what I've read on A2daMIR, he doesn't seem like my type - he sounds fun, but a bit too cocky and extremely blunt and unfiltered. He does remind me of an ex' best friend who was a nightclub bouncer - but I couldn't fucking stand him haha.

Also, I think I've only stepped foot in one Boston nightclub for exactly 5 minutes before wanting to leave - we were only there to meet our lady friend who was working as a hostess/promoter who was about get off her shift so that we could go hang out somewhere less chaotic.

 

[Arnav]

If it's okay, I'll keep using this thread to stack future reports instead of making new threads.

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FR: MallGuy approaches Asian Babe

Setting:

• Local high-end mall outside the stores

People:

• AB69 - early 30s, Asian-American woman
• MallGuy - likely late 30s-early 40s, Caucasian American man

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The Approach:

I did a bit of shopping and take laps around the mall to get my steps in and play a mobile game. From my peripheral vision, a well groomed man leaning on the railing from above notices me going up the escalator. Once I get to the upper floor, I notice him following behind me in the reflection of the glass windows in the mall. I increase my pace and don't make eye contact. I am wearing stretchy flared jeans highlighting my sculpted butt, and a kimono like top with an impressionistic art pattern hugging my bust. MallGuy is wearing a dark buttoned down shirt, red puffer vest, faded dark tailored jeans, well-groomed beard and hair, and has a slim muscular physique.


He catches up to my pace to get my attention and meet my eyes:


There's a awkward pause, so I walk even faster. Then I quickly change directions walking away till he fades from the vicinity. I left him standing there at a corner. He looked stumped because he didn't have a response after that. Or maybe he took caution knowing the SO was wandering the mall as well. I soon find my SO and tell him about the encounter. He said if he was MallGuy, he would've downloaded the mobile game on his phone and start playing it with me to keep me engaged.

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Afterthoughts:

If he further engaged the conversation, and asked more questions, I would've been slightly more receptive. Maybe I would've walked him to the nearby Barnes & Noble and ask him if he's read The Game, The Truth, or The Art of Seduction or knows of the mASF forums.

If he says no, maybe I'd say "You might need some better openers because your compliment was kind of bland and not that unique but you do dress well and the tone of your voice was good." Nah that'd be too much, I'd probably continue being polite and peacefully eject so I don't provoke him in any way. But if I were MallGuy, I'd point out a specific detail about my outfit and why it looks good. Nonetheless, he still opened and I responded, but I usually do so out of courtesy as long as the guy doesn't give off creepy or bad vibes.

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What would you men have done in this situation if you were approaching me?

Well if you really don't want her to find out, then don't use any social media, don't post any of your pictures online on public profiles or any sites ever. Reverse image search via certain apps brings up everything and all sites associated with you...so if there are any old sites around with younger pictures of you attached to it, any woman can find out if she's curious enough.. And from there, it showed his alias.

Its

 

[Arnav]

If it's okay, I'll keep using this thread to stack future reports instead of making new threads.

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FR: MallGuy approaches Asian Babe

Setting:

• Local high-end mall outside the stores

People:

• AB69 - early 30s, Asian-American woman
• MallGuy - likely late 30s-early 40s, Caucasian American man

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The Approach:

I did a bit of shopping and take laps around the mall to get my steps in and play a mobile game. From my peripheral vision, a well groomed man leaning on the railing from above notices me going up the escalator. Once I get to the upper floor, I notice him following behind me in the reflection of the glass windows in the mall. I increase my pace and don't make eye contact. I am wearing stretchy flared jeans highlighting my sculpted butt, and a kimono like top with an impressionistic art pattern hugging my bust. MallGuy is wearing a dark buttoned down shirt, red puffer vest, faded dark tailored jeans, well-groomed beard and hair, and has a slim muscular physique.


He catches up to my pace to get my attention and meet my eyes:


There's a awkward pause, so I walk even faster. Then I quickly change directions walking away till he fades from the vicinity. I left him standing there at a corner. He looked stumped because he didn't have a response after that. Or maybe he took caution knowing the SO was wandering the mall as well. I soon find my SO and tell him about the encounter. He said if he was MallGuy, he would've downloaded the mobile game on his phone and start playing it with me to keep me engaged.

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Afterthoughts:

If he further engaged the conversation, and asked more questions, I would've been slightly more receptive. Maybe I would've walked him to the nearby Barnes & Noble and ask him if he's read The Game, The Truth, or The Art of Seduction or knows of the mASF forums.

If he says no, maybe I'd say "You might need some better openers because your compliment was kind of bland and not that unique but you do dress well and the tone of your voice was good." Nah that'd be too much, I'd probably continue being polite and peacefully eject so I don't provoke him in any way. But if I were MallGuy, I'd point out a specific detail about my outfit and why it looks good. Nonetheless, he still opened and I responded, but I usually do so out of courtesy as long as the guy doesn't give off creepy or bad vibes.

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What would you men have done in this situation if you were approaching me?

It seems like this mall guys approach was just polite conv. for you considering your hurried exit.

But Have you ever had a really good cold approach conv conversation with a guy, agreed to go on a date, happily shared your number but then later stopped responding once you got home?

From a guy’s perspective, it can feel confusing because in the moment the girl seems genuinely interested smiling, engaged, enjoying the conversation, and happy to meet again.

Then suddenly something shifts afterward.
What usually goes on there from your perspective?

 

[AsianBabe69]

Hey @Chase , so regarding the latest GC tweet ...It's cool that you shared my story. Some of the details are off but you've got it down for the most part. I understand if you tweaked it for marketing purposes.

@GirlsChase: Eventually she was cold approached during the day by a very charming guy on a city bench.

Honestly, it felt ambiguous in the beginning until the prolonged eye contact and then felt like we were both gaming each other at some point. But it's also my fault for messaging him in the first place.

In the tweet comments, the AuSaiz guy is right. I'm an unloyal woman who also cannot be in an OPP dynamic where the husband has freedom - chooses not to act on it, turns down women I funnel to him, but expects me to remain loyal/chained to him and satiate his low drive. I will say that there were quite a few guys I've slept with who did not a give a shit whether I orgasmed or not - I realize guys like that are just selfish.

@GirlsChase: The woman was so starved for good sex and affection by her husband that, after resisting other men for years, she ultimately went along with it and had sex with this other man.

It is true that I managed to turn down many many men over the years while I've been with him. Although I also made the mistake of messing around with a virgin guy and there was no intercourse in that situation (before I met D20). I likely have the DRD4 gene which contributes to my mild ADHD and occasional novelty seeking/impulses. But I can confirm I've never had any drug/alcohol/gambling addictions. Love addiction is likely though.

And the key ingredients of a fulfilling marriage IMO - emotional and sexual fulfillment are obviously lacking.

It seems like this mall guys approach was just polite conv. for you considering your hurried exit.

I hurried because I knew he was following me. He was looking at me up and down and his tone became sensual at the end of his compliment. Looking back at it, he was nice but once it felt off, I ejected out of discomfort as well.

But Have you ever had a really good cold approach conv conversation with a guy, agreed to go on a date, happily shared your number but then later stopped responding once you got home?

If you're talking about anonymous cold approach, no, I haven't been receptive to any like that unless you'd count D20's as cold approach, otherwise he's the exception. 85% of the time I either ignore them completely and keep walking, or I say thank you politely and keep walking. I've met all my past lovers/exes through my social circles or common interests and I've never used dating apps. I'm extremely selective.

 

[AsianBabe69]

later stopped responding once you got home?

From a guy’s perspective, it can feel confusing because in the moment the girl seems genuinely interested smiling, engaged, enjoying the conversation, and happy to meet again.

Then suddenly something shifts afterward.
What usually goes on there from your perspective?

So if she was never truly interested, then likely her warm response was out of courtesy, and also knowing that rejecting certain men can result in violence or harassment from the guy who doesn't handle rejection well. It's safer for women to not reject men directly/IRL.

If she was initially and genuinely interested, her mind may have changed afterwards for any number of reasons:
- She has more interest in someone else
- She realized she wasn't that into him for any number of reasons during their time together
- She was bored/uninterested by whatever he texted her afterwards and something turned her off or gave her the ick.

 

[Chase]

@AsianBabe69,

Apologies if any of those guys replying were rude (sounds like maybe some were?). Haven't checked the replies yet.

Don't take it too much to heart. There's a lot of very jaded and opinionated dudes on X, and our account in particular posts a lot of stuff they do not want to hear.

One of the things I really want to drive home for guys, especially on that platform, where so many of them are DENSE, is "TAKE CARE OF YOUR WOMAN!"

A lot of dudes are (like you have experienced) selfish.

Some just because they are super selfish people.

But many are just because they are ignorant.

A lot of guys have told me, "Women are perfectly fine with sex that lasts 10 minutes! 15 minutes is a bit much."

Like, they really believe that... It is pretty clear it is actually the majority of men that (genuinely) believes that.

Telling guys "you've gotta fuck her well or she's gonna cheat" is like telling women "you've gotta stay slim or he's gonna cheat." Many feel like you're slapping them in the face or dousing them with cold water and get angry and lash out.

"My husband isn't so shallow he'd cheat just because I got fat!"

"My wife isn't so shallow she'd cheat just because I don't make her cum!"

People don't want to hear it... but once you get it through to them, and they actually start doing things better with the opposite sex, they are ultimately grateful to have learned the lesson relatively painlessly, rather than having to learn it the hard way.

(The lack of emotional intimacy is another big one... though generally speaking if the sexual intimacy is good enough, the emotional intimacy takes care of itself... the woman just automatically starts dishing to the guy after sex and connects herself to him. When the sex is bad, you're much less inclined to want to do that...)

Chase

 

[AsianBabe69]

@AsianBabe69,

Apologies if any of those guys replying were rude (sounds like maybe some were?). Haven't checked the replies yet.

Don't take it too much to heart. There's a lot of very jaded and opinionated dudes on X, and our account in particular posts a lot of stuff they do not want to hear.

One of the things I really want to drive home for guys, especially on that platform, where so many of them are DENSE, is "TAKE CARE OF YOUR WOMAN!"

A lot of dudes are (like you have experienced) selfish.

Some just because they are super selfish people.

But many are just because they are ignorant.

A lot of guys have told me, "Women are perfectly fine with sex that lasts 10 minutes! 15 minutes is a bit much."

Like, they really believe that... It is pretty clear it is actually the majority of men that (genuinely) believes that.

Telling guys "you've gotta fuck her well or she's gonna cheat" is like telling women "you've gotta stay slim or he's gonna cheat." Many feel like you're slapping them in the face or dousing them with cold water and get angry and lash out.

"My husband isn't so shallow he'd cheat just because I got fat!"

"My wife isn't so shallow she'd cheat just because I don't make her cum!"

People don't want to hear it... but once you get it through to them, and they actually start doing things better with the opposite sex, they are ultimately grateful to have learned the lesson relatively painlessly, rather than having to learn it the hard way.

No worries! Thanks for taking the time to respond Chase. Yeah not surprised X is a lot of extreme red pill guys nowadays, which is why I pivoted to bluesky but things get extreme on the other end there too. I do like the space you're building here, it feels a bit more purple pill and rational which allows me to see both sides.

if the sexual intimacy is good enough, the emotional intimacy takes care of itself... the woman just automatically starts dishing to the guy after sex and connects herself to him. When the sex is bad, you're much less inclined to want to do that.

Reminds me of those hollywood scenes where they get done having sex, guy came too quickly and then they just lay next to each other without touching and long awkward silence and then the guy asks her "Did you cum?".. Bro if she came you wouldn't have to ask and there'd usually be good pillow talk, cuddling and aftercare.

 

[Arnav]

So if she was never truly interested, then likely her warm response was out of courtesy, and also knowing that rejecting certain men can result in violence or harassment from the guy who doesn't handle rejection well. It's safer for women to not reject men directly/IRL.

If she was initially and genuinely interested, her mind may have changed afterwards for any number of reasons:
- She has more interest in someone else
- She realized she wasn't thatn the into him for any number of reasons during their time together
- She was bored/uninterested by whatever he texted her afterwards and something turned her off or gave her the ick.

Okay, I found it a bit funny seeing a girl writing her own lay report. But nevertheless nice seeing you on the forum And reading your perspective.

I hurried because I knew he was following me. He was looking at me up and down and his tone became sensual at the end of his compliment. Looking back at it, he was nice but once it felt off, I ejected out of discomfort as well.

@Will_V hey will could I get your thoughts on this, I remember in one of your postings you mentioned looking a the woman up and down while complimenting and using suggestive tone to set a man to woman frame and avoid platonoc interactions. But here it seems it made @AsianBabe69 feel uncomfortable and made her eject.

Is there a particlar way you do it on your sets thats diff from how this mall guy applied this, or is there other ways to make the interaction non-platonic during cold approaches that doesn't creep the girl out.