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Francis

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I got you bro.



Speaker 1
(0:08) Excuse me, I just want to say you look very relaxed and calm. (0:12) What? (0:13) You look very relaxed and calm.

(0:14) You have that relaxed and calm vibe. (0:16) You know, someone who is meditating. (0:18) You have been into meditation?
Speaker 2
(0:19) Yes.
Speaker 1
(0:20) You look very relaxed and calm. (0:22) You have that relaxed and calm mind.
Speaker 2
(0:23) Okay.
Speaker 1
(0:24) Are you thinking about anything? (0:26) Like, if you don't mind, can I sit here?
Speaker 2
(0:28) If you want, but I have to go soon.
Speaker 1
(0:31) You don't have?
Speaker 2
(0:32) I have to go in two minutes.
Speaker 1
(0:33) Oh, you have to go. (0:34) I'll take just two minutes, not much. (0:35) I was waiting for my friend, so I just wanted to say hi to you.
Speaker 2
(0:39) Thank you.
Speaker 1
(0:40) I guess you are French?
Speaker 2
(0:41) Yes.
Speaker 1
(0:42) Oh, you are from France? (0:43) Which village in France? (0:45) I know Bordia.

(0:46) Bordia, you know. (0:46) Bordia. (0:47) It's Bordiacs or Bordia?
Speaker 2
(0:50) Oh.
Speaker 1
(0:50) There is a football team there called Bordia.
Speaker 2
(0:53) Bordeaux.
Speaker 1
(0:54) Bordeaux, Bordeaux. (0:55) Okay, I don't know how to pronounce. (0:57) Maybe you can teach me French.

(0:58) I don't know French.
Speaker 2
(1:00) French is really complicated. (1:02) I don't know.
Speaker 1
(1:02) It's very complicated. (1:03) I will learn in two weeks, don't worry. (1:06) You will teach me or not?
Speaker 2
(1:09) I can't teach you.
Speaker 1
(1:10) Oh, why?
Speaker 2
(1:11) Because I'm about to leave soon.
Speaker 1
(1:13) No, not now. (1:14) I mean, any time in the future. (1:16) So, if you want to learn, so that you can teach me.
Speaker 2
(1:20) You should find a real teacher to do that.
Speaker 1
(1:23) Okay. (1:24) So, how long have you been here? (1:25) Are you staying here in Auroville?
Speaker 2
(1:27) I'm staying in Brucherie and I'm here for today.
Speaker 1
(1:30) Only for today, okay. (1:32) You are leaving today?
Speaker 2
(1:33) Yes.
Speaker 1
(1:34) Oh, to France.
Speaker 2
(1:35) No, I go back to Brucherie and then to France later.
Speaker 1
(1:39) Brucherie, what is Brucherie?
Speaker 2
(1:41) Brucherie, Brucherie.
Speaker 1
(1:42) Oh, Brucherie.
Speaker 2
(1:43) I'm sorry.
Speaker 1
(1:44) You are pronouncing a proper French consonant. (1:48) Brucherie. (1:49) I will learn anyway.
Speaker 2
(1:50) What's your name?
Speaker 1
(2:00) I will keep your name for you. (2:03) I will call you Lily. (2:04) Lily is cute and I can't pronounce whatever you say.
Speaker 2
(2:09) Can you repeat your name? (2:11) My name is... (2:15) Sounds French?

(2:16) Not really.
Speaker 1
(2:17) It's an Indian word actually.
Speaker 2
(2:22) Well, I have to go now.
Speaker 1
(2:23) You have to go, okay. (2:25) Just two minutes. (2:26) Like, I'm looking for some activities to join here.

(2:28) Some social groups and, you know, trying to meet people. (2:31) So, what are the best activities or groups you can suggest here?
Speaker 2
(2:35) I don't know.
Speaker 1
(2:36) You don't know?
Speaker 2
(2:37) I really don't know.
Speaker 1
(2:38) Like any communities or activities which I can do here. (2:41) So that I can contact with people. (2:43) Meet new people.
Speaker 2
(2:43) I don't know what there is here but maybe sports or things like that.
Speaker 1
(2:49) Yeah, I'm an outdoor kind of guy. (2:50) How do you know? (2:52) You called sports.

(2:53) You had the right guess. (2:55) You made the right guess. (2:56) I know sports.

(2:57) I'm more into outdoor activities. (2:59) Football, soccer, wrestling and kayaking, you know, kayaking. (3:04) Kayaking is wonderful actually.

(3:06) I love it very much. (3:07) There is a beach there in Mahabalipuram. (3:10) It's called as...

(3:11) The surfing place is there. (3:13) There will be a rooftop. (3:14) And over that, if you see from the rooftop, it's a rooftop restaurant.

(3:18) There will be ocean. (3:19) It's very beautiful, the scenic view. (3:21) And people from all over the world will come here for surfing.

(3:25) I don't know surfing but I'll do that rowing or kayaking, whatever it is. (3:29) Okay, you have to go. (3:30) You can exchange contact numbers.

(3:31) What's your contact number?
Speaker 2
(3:32) No, sorry. (3:33) Okay.
Speaker 1
(3:33) Instagram? (3:34) Are you there on Instagram? (3:36) It's okay.

(3:36) Take care.
Speaker 2
(3:36) Thank you for talking to me.
Speaker 1
(3:38) Okay, you can sit here. (3:39) I'll leave. (3:39) Bye.

(3:40) Bye.
 

Francis

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Alternate:



Speaker 0:

Excuse me. Just want to say that we're relaxed and calm. You know, like, you look relaxed and calm. You have that relaxed and calm, but, you know, someone who is meditating. You have been into meditation?

Yes. Oh, you look very relaxed and calm. You have that relaxed and calm mind.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 0:

Are you thinking about anything? Like, if you don't mind, can I sit here?

Speaker 1:

If you want, but I have to go soon.

Speaker 0:

You don't have?

Speaker 1:

I have to go

Speaker 0:

and see you. To go. I'll take just two minutes. Not much. I was waiting for my friends, so I just wanted to, you know, just say hi to you.

Speaker 1:

Thank you.

Speaker 0:

I guess you're French?

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 0:

Oh, you're from France? Which village in France? I know Bordea. Bordea. You know?

Bordea. It's Bordeaux or Bordeaux? Oh. There's a football team there called as Bordeaux. Bordeaux.

Bordeaux. Okay. I don't know how to pronounce. Maybe you can teach me French. I don't know French.

Speaker 1:

French is really complicated. I don't know.

Speaker 0:

It's very complicated. I will learn in I will learn in two weeks. Don't worry. You will teach me or not?

Speaker 1:

I can't teach you.

Speaker 0:

Oh, why? You can't teach.

Speaker 1:

I'm about to leave soon.

Speaker 0:

No. Not now. I mean, anytime in the future. So if you want to learn so that they can teach me.

Speaker 1:

You should find a real teacher to do that.

Speaker 0:

Okay. So how long have you been here?

Speaker 1:

Are you, like, staying here in Auroville? I'm staying in, and I'm I'm here for today. Just Only for today. Okay. You're leaving today?

Yes.

Speaker 0:

Oh, to France?

Speaker 1:

No. I go back to and then to France later.

Speaker 0:

What is? You're pronouncing you're pronouncing a proper French conversation. Oh, I will learn anyway. What's your name? I will keep your name for it.

I'll call you Lily. Lily is cute then. I can't pronounce whatever they say. Can

Speaker 1:

you repeat your name?

Speaker 0:

My name is Sounds French?

Speaker 1:

Not really.

Speaker 0:

It's an Indian word, actually. I

Speaker 1:

have to go now. You have

Speaker 0:

to go. Okay. Just two minutes. Like, I'm looking for some activities to join here, some social groups and, you know, trying to meet people. So what are the best activities or groups you can suggest here?

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 0:

You don't know? Don't know. Like, any communities or activities which I can do here so that I can contact with people, meet new people.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what what there is here, but maybe sports or things like that.

Speaker 0:

Yeah. I'm an outdoor kind of guy. How do you how do you know? You called sports. You you had the right guess.

You made the right guess. I'm a sports sports guy. More into outdoor activities. Football, soccer, wrestling, and kayaking. You know kayaking?

Yes. Kayaking is wonderful, actually. I love it very much. There is a beach there in Mahabalipuram. It's called as the surfing place is there.

There'll be a rooftop, and over that if you see from the rooftop, it's a rooftop restaurant. There'll be ocean. It's very beautiful, the scenic view. And people from all over the world will come here for surfing. Okay.

I don't know surfing, but I'll do that rowing or kayak and whatever it is. Okay. You have to go? Yes. I contact numbers.

What's your contact number?

Speaker 1:

Sorry.

Speaker 0:

Okay. Instagram. Are you there on Instagram? It's okay. Take care.

Bye.

Speaker 1:

Thank you for talking to me.

Speaker 0:

Okay. You can sit here. Will be. Goodbye. Bye.
 

Francis

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Speaker 1
(0:08) Excuse me, I just want to say you look very relaxed and calm.
Speaker 2
(0:12) What?
Speaker 1
(0:13) You look very relaxed and calm.
(0:14) You have that relaxed and calm vibe. (0:16) You know, someone who is meditating. (0:18) You have been into meditation?
Speaker 2
(0:19) Yes.
Speaker 1
(0:20) You look very relaxed and calm. (0:22) You have that relaxed and calm mind.
Speaker 2
(0:23) Okay.

***

Speaker 1
(0:24) Are you thinking about anything? (0:26) Like, if you don't mind, can I sit here?
Speaker 2
(0:28) If you want, but I have to go soon.
Speaker 1
(0:31) You don't have?
Speaker 2
(0:32) I have to go in two minutes.
Speaker 1
(0:33) Oh, you have to go. (0:34) I'll take just two minutes, not much. (0:35) I was waiting for my friend, so I just wanted to say hi to you.
Speaker 2
(0:39) Thank you.

===
===

Speaker 1

(0:40) I guess you are French?
Speaker 2
(0:41) Yes.
Speaker 1
(0:42) Oh, you are from France? (0:43) Which village in France? (0:45) I know Bordia.

(0:46) Bordia, you know. (0:46) Bordia. (0:47) It's Bordiacs or Bordia?
Speaker 2
(0:50) Oh.
Speaker 1
(0:50) There is a football team there called Bordia.
Speaker 2
(0:53) Bordeaux.
Speaker 1
(0:54) Bordeaux, Bordeaux. (0:55) Okay, I don't know how to pronounce.

***

(0:57) Maybe you can teach me French.
(0:58) I don't know French.
Speaker 2
(1:00) French is really complicated. (1:02) I don't know.
Speaker 1
(1:02) It's very complicated. (1:03) I will learn in two weeks, don't worry. (1:06) You will teach me or not?
Speaker 2
(1:09) I can't teach you.
Speaker 1
(1:10) Oh, why?
Speaker 2
(1:11) Because I'm about to leave soon.
Speaker 1
(1:13) No, not now. (1:14) I mean, any time in the future. (1:16) So, if you want to learn, so that you can teach me.
Speaker 2
(1:20) You should find a real teacher to do that.

***
***
***

Speaker 1

(1:23) Okay. (1:24) So, how long have you been here? (1:25) Are you staying here in Auroville?
Speaker 2
(1:27) I'm staying in Brucherie and I'm here for today.
Speaker 1
(1:30) Only for today, okay. (1:32) You are leaving today?
Speaker 2
(1:33) Yes.
Speaker 1
(1:34) Oh, to France.
Speaker 2
(1:35) No, I go back to Brucherie and then to France later.
Speaker 1
(1:39) Brucherie, what is Brucherie?
Speaker 2
(1:41) Brucherie, Brucherie.
Speaker 1
(1:42) Oh, Brucherie.
Speaker 2
(1:43) I'm sorry.
Speaker 1
(1:44) You are pronouncing a proper French consonant. (1:48) Brucherie. (1:49) I will learn anyway.

***

Speaker 2

(1:50) What's your name?
Speaker 1
(2:00) I will keep your name for you. (2:03) I will call you Lily. (2:04) Lily is cute and I can't pronounce whatever you say.
Speaker 2
(2:09) Can you repeat your name? (2:11) My name is... (2:15) Sounds French?

(2:16) Not really.
Speaker 1
(2:17) It's an Indian word actually.

***
***
***

Speaker 2

(2:22) Well, I have to go now.
Speaker 1
(2:23) You have to go, okay. (2:25) Just two minutes. (2:26) Like, I'm looking for some activities to join here.

(2:28) Some social groups and, you know, trying to meet people. (2:31) So, what are the best activities or groups you can suggest here?
Speaker 2
(2:35) I don't know.
Speaker 1
(2:36) You don't know?
Speaker 2
(2:37) I really don't know.
Speaker 1
(2:38) Like any communities or activities which I can do here. (2:41) So that I can contact with people. (2:43) Meet new people.
Speaker 2
(2:43) I don't know what there is here but maybe sports or things like that.

***
***
***

Speaker 1

(2:49) Yeah, I'm an outdoor kind of guy. (2:50) How do you know? (2:52) You called sports.

(2:53) You had the right guess. (2:55) You made the right guess. (2:56) I know sports.

(2:57) I'm more into outdoor activities. (2:59) Football, soccer, wrestling and kayaking, you know, kayaking. (3:04) Kayaking is wonderful actually.

(3:06) I love it very much. (3:07) There is a beach there in Mahabalipuram. (3:10) It's called as...

(3:11) The surfing place is there. (3:13) There will be a rooftop. (3:14) And over that, if you see from the rooftop, it's a rooftop restaurant.

(3:18) There will be ocean. (3:19) It's very beautiful, the scenic view. (3:21) And people from all over the world will come here for surfing.

(3:25) I don't know surfing but I'll do that rowing or kayaking, whatever it is. (3:29) Okay, you have to go. (3:30) You can exchange contact numbers.

(3:31) What's your contact number?

***

Speaker 2

(3:32) No, sorry. (3:33) Okay.
Speaker 1
(3:33) Instagram? (3:34) Are you there on Instagram? (3:36) It's okay.

(3:36) Take care.
Speaker 2
(3:36) Thank you for talking to me.
Speaker 1
(3:38) Okay, you can sit here. (3:39) I'll leave. (3:39) Bye.

(3:40) Bye.
 

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What are the pros and cons

It's a good approach. Good job, dude. She sounds SWEET.

I don't want to nitpick the particulars. No need to dwell on this approach.

If you make a few dozen approaches like this, you will likely be successful. And with each success, your success rate will go up.

@Skills says (in a bumped thread up now) a master pickup artist will have a lay ration of 1 in 10. A master. A beginner? Much less. Much, much less. Keep striving.

You tell us: What are the pros and cons?
 

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I would second @Jamster here.

And what do you feel like you did right or wrong?

Why do you think that she didn't give you her number ... Given that she is not from a conservative culture.
 

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It's a good approach. Good job, dude. She sounds SWEET.

I don't want to nitpick the particulars. No need to dwell on this approach.

If you make a few dozen approaches like this, you will likely be successful. And with each success, your success rate will go up.

@Skills says (in a bumped thread up now) a master pickup artist will have a lay ration of 1 in 10. A master. A beginner? Much less. Much, much less. Keep striving.

You tell us: What are the pros and cons?
Why are you all missing the main component? Speech , tonality, tone , speed , vibe etc.
The reason why I specifically broke my head for entire day to search and add this audio , is to get detailed feedback on nonverbals and vibe, In addition to verbals
Why we are focusing only on the verbals?
 

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I would second @Jamster here.

And what do you feel like you did right or wrong?

Why do you think that she didn't give you her number ... Given that she is not from a conservative
In some approaches I felt very freaking confident in the perfect state., Mood, form, state , vibe ,
Despite all those , the nothing happens.
Due you think if anyone does the perfect ultimate game , the woman will always say yes?
One can do a shitty game and sometimes still get laid
 
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

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In some approaches I felt very freaking confident in the perfect state., Mood, form, state , vibe ,
Despite all those , the nothing happens.
Due you think if anyone does the perfect ultimate game , the woman will always say yes?
One can do a shitty game and sometimes still get laid
I meant in this french madame case specifically.

And was this your ultimate game as you say?

And also the fact that you have been approaching for years and are not getting laid should be considered by you before making such statements regarding perfect game and shitty game.
 
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Why are you all missing the main component? Speech , tonality, tone , speed , vibe etc.
The reason why I specifically broke my head for entire day to search and add this audio , is to get detailed feedback on nonverbals and vibe, In addition to verbals
Why we are focusing only on the verbals?
First of all it's only audio. Not video so lot of non verbals can't be seen ( but dont post your videos here ) and second of all... I felt that it was a boring but polite conversation.

Nothing sexy or exciting about it.
 

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It's a good approach. Good job, dude. She sounds SWEET.

I don't want to nitpick the particulars. No need to dwell on this approach.

If you make a few dozen approaches like this, you will likely be successful. And with each success, your success rate will go up.

@Skills says (in a bumped thread up now) a master pickup artist will have a lay ration of 1 in 10. A master. A beginner? Much less. Much, much less. Keep striving.

You tell us: What are the pros and cons?
Nobody gave feedback about tonality, speech , speed tone and vibe . Next you all can give feedback about the verbals .
As far as myself concerned, I think I was investing more especially verbally , but the girl is not investing at all . She's just relying to my lines and restricting to few words. This happens with most of the girls , despite giving intentional pauses . So how to make the girls invest more and more ?
 

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First of all, you're welcome for transcribing it.

I didn't really listen to the audio yet. I kind of like the opener actually, and followup persistence with a time constraint.

I see you mainly want feedback on voice. To be honest, I do not think tone, speed, pausing, etc. can compensate enough for it yet. Audio is for sure helpful in getting a sense of the vibe and her reaction tone, etc.

But I think you primarily need some guidance on the early flirting. I think early banter is the hardest part to have a game plan for. I struggle with it myself so am not sure how to guide you at the moment.
 

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@alexhunter8

Agreed with Francis. Your voice is actually not bad, there's no major issue there.

Keep improving your voice (always good) but you should focus more on the game part.

You need to ramp up your ealy banter and flirtation.

Also more flirtatious undertone with facial expressions. All of these play a big role.

Also, you're getting into interactions with women, meaning not always immediate rejections. Thats a good sign you're fundamentals are not off.

You're not far from doing good man, keep at it and no overthinking.

@Francis

Thanks for transcribing it man! I would have skipped it was only audio. The transcription helped gain overall feel of the interaction.
 

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First of all, you're welcome for transcribing it.

I didn't really listen to the audio yet. I kind of like the opener actually, and followup persistence with a time constraint.

I see you mainly want feedback on voice. To be honest, I do not think tone, speed, pausing, etc. can compensate enough for it yet. Audio is for sure helpful in getting a sense of the vibe and her reaction tone, etc.

But I think you primarily need some guidance on the early flirting. I think early banter is the hardest part to have a game plan for. I struggle with it myself so am not sure how to guide you at the moment.
I am wondering how you still didn't listen to the audio .
My main headache yesterday, I spent entire day trying to edit add and put forth the original audio , so that i expected detailed expert feedback. I regret sending original audio raw from field .otherwise I would have simply typed the conversation.
And how do you assume tonality and vibe are not very important, I heard that they are the most important.
What else to imporve in my tonality speech nonverbals and how to imporve my banter and flirt ? ( especially the initial banter flirt whatever u meant )
 

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@alexhunter8

Agreed with Francis. Your voice is actually not bad, there's no major issue there.

Keep improving your voice (always good) but you should focus more on the game part.

You need to ramp up your ealy banter and flirtation.

Also more flirtatious undertone with facial expressions. All of these play a big role.

Also, you're getting into interactions with women, meaning not always immediate rejections. Thats a good sign you're fundamentals are not off.

You're not far from doing good man, keep at it and no overthinking.

@Francis

Thanks for transcribing it man! I would have skipped it was only audio. The transcription helped gain overall feel of the interaction.
Thanks.
Btw I heard that my voice is good from many .
What I specifically need is how is my tonality, speech speed , pause , vibe etc from the audio ?
And as you mentioned how to do the sexual undertone And face expression? ( I don't have a clue about it , so any video link would be ideal for learning).
And how to improve banter flirtation in the most initial phase of interaction?
 

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What I specifically need is how is my tonality, speech speed , pause , vibe etc from the audio ?
And as you mentioned how to do the sexual undertone And face expression?

And how to improve banter flirtation in the most initial phase of interaction?

You could use the forum SEARCH function on words like "undertone," "tonality," "pause" and such. Most uses of those words wouldn't be relevant, but for each word, you would find some good, relevant stuff with a little digging.
 

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Hey man, I listened to it.

First of all you voice and tonality is good, you sound fairly relaxed and cheerful with a deep voice. I think you could definitely speak slower though, sometimes it's quite fast.

On top of that you have a very strong accent that's a bit hard to understand. When you told her she looks 'relaxed and calm' I had to rewind a couple of times because I couldn't tell what you were saying. I think this contributed to her initial confusion.

What made this initial confusion worse is that you repeated yourself a lot of times (throughout the whole approach actually). It makes you sound nervous and insistent, especially together with the way you talked fast. I'd suggest letting a bit of silence develop (especially before repeating yourself). Let her know that you are comfortable and that she can be comfortable too, even if you aren't understanding each other perfectly.

Instead of repeating yourself so many times, I'd suggest:

- Say things in a different way (opportunity to pause, think, and then speak again, relaxing the vibe).
- Just move to an easier topic for a moment (for example, when you told her that you wanted to say hi, she immediately responded and sounded more relaxed, because that's easy to understand and respond to).
- Or tease her (or yourself) a little, like "you haven't heard such a strong accent before have you?"

Next, the whole thing about teaching you french was not good. She's still feeling a bit of confusion about the approach, and you're asking for investment from her (to teach you french) when you never showed any real interest in languages or the french language in particular. It comes across as a cheap way of continuing the conversation. "Oh you're french? Teach me french". Yeah, ok, she's thinking, you don't actually want to know french.

It would be ok if you started off asking her to teach you, and then went and had some fun with the topic. E.g.

You: "Teach me french"
Her: "I can't teach you"
You: "I'm a good pupil, even you can teach me, I'll do all my homework"
Her: "Oh?"
You: "Are you a good student?"
Her: "..."

Remember you always want to go from factual stuff like "I'm french" to "what sort of girl are you?" stuff as soon as possible.

Finally the whole thing asking her what activities to do locally to meet people, after finding out she's french and leaving tomorrow, is just awkward. She clearly isn't from there, she needs this info more than you do. A bit of a faux pas there mate.

I think the main issue here was that she was confused at the beginning, and you never managed to direct the conversation to something she was comfortable with and that made sense to her. This is more conversation skills than anything else. You need to be able to read someone, understand their perspective, and find a way to maneuver things to a point where they feel comfortable and able to participate in a successful way. Instead you asked for investment she couldn't give you, and then asked her for knowledge that she didn't have, and she just felt like she couldn't comply positively with anything, making her more and more nervous.

At the end she sounded genuinely happy that you'd approached her, but the conversation was just too awkward at that point.

No biggie, it happens! Onto the next one.
 
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