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Francis

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Brah! I have no idea what your block of text tried to explain....leave the analogies to me...
Active vs. Passive

Say two guys have lawn mowing businesses.

One guy's really good at advertising in the right spots at the right times in the right ways. Very optimized. He gets lots of people calling him and makes a lot of sales, including big fish clients with huge lawns.

The second guy goes door to door pitching homeowners who are not already looking for his services and are skeptical. This guy develops sales conversion skills, even if he gets less results with less appealing clients.

Now say both these guys want to scale back one day and get one or a few long term clients who fulfill a lot of extra criteria (wife quality analogy... not just any lawn). This is a much more rare client who is a lot more skeptical and does not call up a service based on marketing. The first guy has no means of securing this particular target client. The second guy does.

Obviously the ideal business owner would combine both of these strategies.
 

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Active vs. Passive

Say two guys have lawn mowing businesses.

One guy's really good at advertising in the right spots at the right times in the right ways. Very optimized. He gets lots of people calling him and makes a lot of sales, including big fish clients with huge lawns.

The second guy goes door to door pitching homeowners who are not already looking for his services and are skeptical. This guy develops sales conversion skills, even if he gets less results with less appealing clients.

Now say both these guys want to scale back one day and get one or a few long term clients who fulfill a lot of extra criteria (wife quality analogy... not just any lawn). This is a much more rare client who is a lot more skeptical and does not call up a service based on marketing. The first guy has no means of securing this particular target client. The second guy does.

Obviously the ideal business owner would combine both of these strategies.
I am going to tell him to hire you for a biz consultation...
 

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step 1: you see a fat girl

Setp 2: ignore and don't open the fat girl keep moving

I hate to argue with the expert view of @Skills, but:

1) When I've been lost and lonely, I've taken a lot of comfort from fat women that wanted to fuck me.

2) That guy who cold opened 2000 women with no success - none, zero? He needed to open more fat woman. Really.

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Skills

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I hate to argue with the expert view of @Skills, but:

1) When I've been lost and lonely, I've taken a lot of comfort from fat women that wanted to fuck me.

2) That guy who cold opened 2000 women with no success - none, zero? He needed to open more fat woman. Really.

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Brother if 0 vs fatty everyone will take the fatty just make sure:

- noone see you in public
- nobody looks
- good toilet seat replacement(the weight will break toilet sit)

Was not about arguing is the derrail about fat girls and Francis of course with hos Velasco hard on derrail Master...
 

Francis

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you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

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Brother if 0 vs fatty everyone will take the fatty just make sure:

- noone see you in public
- nobody looks
- good toilet seat replacement(the weight will break toilet sit)

Was not about arguing is the derrail about fat girls and Francis of course with hos Velasco hard on derrail Master...
I missed no lr or fr if she is a whale...to the list...
 

Francis

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I missed no lr or fr if she is a whale...to the list...
I mean, that's fair... but even though you can quickly coach an incel to success, it is very important to be getting laid by real women and not jerking off immediately.

Dating down, screening online is how. It is my gift to those guys, with full transcripts.
 

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2) That guy who cold opened 2000 women with no success - none, zero? He needed to open more fat woman. Really.
Or maybe he had zero because he had zero game and only liked size 0 women.

Interesting report lol. I tried Fetlife with hubby a few years ago, but we were pretty picky/small town, especially hubby (he prefers size 0-6 women + other things) so it didn't work out and it's just such a mixed bag there...

For example there was post on hand writting analysis the other day, ogs used to do hand writing analysis, in gen x, we used to carry a pen, gum, condoms, and napkins/or micro notepad to get numbers, and the girls would write "sussie from the mall kisses, hearts or flowers" I can see how hand writting analysis would be and easy way to segway, women used to write letters (i got a box full of love letters and notes).... Today this shit would be retarded....
I still think it's pretty cool papi, but agreed some Gen Z probably wouldn't care much about it and it's a shame they don't teach cursive handwriting anymore.
 

Francis

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Interesting report lol. I tried Fetlife with hubby a few years ago, but we were pretty picky/small town, especially hubby (he prefers size 0-6 women + other things) so it didn't work out and it's just such a mixed bag there...
Sex takes practice ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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Guys this is an amazing video on "dating" and what is going on backed up with actual data (kind of like chase does), open my eyes, matches what i been experiencing and suspected (actually in one of the links and post i made on the things that made no sense, i mention some of the findings that now i see are backed up by data)

 

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Guys this is an amazing video on "dating" and what is going on backed up with actual data (kind of like chase does), open my eyes, matches what i been experiencing and suspected (actually in one of the links and post i made on the things that made no sense, i mention some of the findings that now i see are backed up by data)


The modern marriage being shitty deal for women is interesting issue, there is absolutely something to this. It doesn't explain the 100%, but absolutely something.

First, the context, which is basically nice for PUA:
- This whole issue concerns pretty much 100% guys that are slotted into "provider/boyfriend"-role. Women absolutely stil love dick.
-The issue is that majority(?) of women dont bother to actively seek just dick when dating. They are typically looking for some kind of relationship. So if the modern deal feels shitty to them they just dont date.

---> Following this logic, there should be lot's of women there that would like to have some dick but are not actively dating. Which should pretty nice for someone who can cold approach and doesn't look for a wife. Add to the fact gen-z:s isn't approaching anyway there should be quite a lot of pent up demand for FWB:s and such.
I suppose the trick is that most sexually open DTF chicks are in apps anyway so this pent up comes from demographic that would have otherwise looked for BFs. (hence need for rapport&comfort etc)

Second, if someone is looking for actual girlfriend/cohabitation/marriage this is also something to think about.
- basically decide how much you actually want a maid with benefits.
- IMHO hiring a maid to come couple of times to clean your house and and wash your loundry is easier option that looking a GF to fill that role.
- I think biggest issue when it comes to house chores is keeping masculine, non-betaized frame while sharing the housework. This would be really interesting subject to dig deeper and I think pretty much culture dependant also.
One possible such frame would be that "I don't need and I am not looking for mommy to take care of me".
 
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teevester just made this post to add to list:

 
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