Break Ups Dynamics on pre Getting dump and more importantly how to avoid it... Pre break up dynamics

[Prodigy]

hello skills hope you doing well ,uhmm i was reading this and im like cool great information but how do you know the difference

This is exactly why i am against social circle game now you are fucked... Since I don't do stupid shit like that, i don't have this issue..... But if i did i would avoid the sc till i am over the healing of the break up...or you can do what top cat suggested,...

between the soft breakup and the absolute breaking point ?like where you like yes yes this is it no going back ?and like how do you know surely especially that it is break point ,and thank you

 

[Skills]

hello skills hope you doing well ,uhmm i was reading this and im like cool great information but how do you know the difference


between the soft breakup and the absolute breaking point ?like where you like yes yes this is it no going back ?and like how do you know surely especially that it is break point ,and thank you

Easy mrs skills did a so break up with me this weekend usually they are very emotional and hurt and crying or about to cry and holding it or leave the room or home to decompress... When you try to get them back and pass their shit test and apologize indirectly they with time come back. With a real breaking point she will be hardened the vibe and connection is withdrawn and she will trat you like shit directly or inderectly and reject every attempt to get back....

Chase has a post is more about soft break ups...

Break Ups - When Going "No-Contact" Works vs. When It Doesn't

"Go no-contact" seems to be the default advice online for dealing with strained relationships. If you ask me, there are basically tiers of "strained relationship handling": D-Tier: chase after her, crying, offering her everything she wants. This will lose you all her respect and turn you into...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[empath]

Easy mrs skills did a so break up with me this weekend usually they are very emotional and hurt and crying or about to cry and holding it or leave the room or home to decompress... When you try to get them back and pass their shit test and apologize indirectly they with time come back. With a real breaking point she will be hardened the vibe and connection is withdrawn and she will trat you like shit directly or inderectly and reject every attempt to get back....

Chase has a post is more about soft break ups...

Break Ups - When Going "No-Contact" Works vs. When It Doesn't

"Go no-contact" seems to be the default advice online for dealing with strained relationships. If you ask me, there are basically tiers of "strained relationship handling": D-Tier: chase after her, crying, offering her everything she wants. This will lose you all her respect and turn you into...

www.skilledseducer.com

Nothing you do works. Its a slow process where they start withdrawing over a month or two.

i have noticed that during that period they might plan meeting with you but somehow they end up coming with an excuse at the end moment or tbh what really happens is when you were a priority they were saying to various social activities and were choosing to meet you but once they are on breaking point mode, they will always choose those opportunities over you or when they used to go out of their way to meet, now they wont earlier they were tired but choose to come over, now they are tired they will choose to sleep and relax or watch TV.

This will happen mostly at last moment and they will also forget to tell you about it.

what is actually happening in their mind is ok this person is not priority and its a cycle where they will first ditch the plan with you then rationalise the person in not important and next time because you were not important they will ditch you.

see what is happening sub-consciously they are detaching from you.

tbh, as a normal person not familiar with PU stuff and backward realisation, you would have done the same.

Talk to your natural buddies, they do it when they are ditching a girl.

-> Best course of action just forget they ever existed and live your life.

 

[Prodigy]

i have a situaion and im seeing both skills and im just will amdit im handling it well so far but im just worried here but it happened over whatsapp lemme try and explain in my next reply

Easy mrs skills did a so break up with me this weekend usually they are very emotional and hurt and crying or about to cry and holding it or leave the room or home to decompress... When you try to get them back and pass their shit test and apologize indirectly they with time come back. With a real breaking point she will be hardened the vibe and connection is withdrawn and she will trat you like shit directly or inderectly and reject every attempt to get back....

Chase has a post is more about soft break ups...

Break Ups - When Going "No-Contact" Works vs. When It Doesn't

"Go no-contact" seems to be the default advice online for dealing with strained relationships. If you ask me, there are basically tiers of "strained relationship handling": D-Tier: chase after her, crying, offering her everything she wants. This will lose you all her respect and turn you into...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[Skills]

Nothing you do works. Its a slow process where they start withdrawing over a month or two.

i have noticed that during that period they might plan meeting with you but somehow they end up coming with an excuse at the end moment or tbh what really happens is when you were a priority they were saying to various social activities and were choosing to meet you but once they are on breaking point mode, they will always choose those opportunities over you or when they used to go out of their way to meet, now they wont earlier they were tired but choose to come over, now they are tired they will choose to sleep and relax or watch TV.

This will happen mostly at last moment and they will also forget to tell you about it.

what is actually happening in their mind is ok this person is not priority and its a cycle where they will first ditch the plan with you then rationalise the person in not important and next time because you were not important they will ditch you.

see what is happening sub-consciously they are detaching from you.

tbh, as a normal person not familiar with PU stuff and backward realisation, you would have done the same.

Talk to your natural buddies, they do it when they are ditching a girl.

-> Best course of action just forget they ever existed and live your life.

Yes, but you don't need to talk to naturals, usually blue pill... The person will feel the withdrawal and if is a bluff or shit test or total out...

 

[Prodigy]

Yes, but you don't need to talk to naturals, usually blue pill... The person will feel the withdrawal and if is a bluff or shit test or total out...

Easy mrs skills did a so break up with me this weekend usually they are very emotional and hurt and crying or about to cry and holding it or leave the room or home to decompress... When you try to get them back and pass their shit test and apologize indirectly they with time come back. With a real breaking point she will be hardened the vibe and connection is withdrawn and she will trat you like shit directly or inderectly and reject every attempt to get back....

Chase has a post is more about soft break ups...

Break Ups - When Going "No-Contact" Works vs. When It Doesn't

"Go no-contact" seems to be the default advice online for dealing with strained relationships. If you ask me, there are basically tiers of "strained relationship handling": D-Tier: chase after her, crying, offering her everything she wants. This will lose you all her respect and turn you into...

www.skilledseducer.com

Okay Skills, can you give me an example of how you knew the difference between the two states?

For example, with Mrs Skills, how did you know it was a soft breakup/separation and that she was likely to come back? What were the things you saw in her behaviour that made you classify it that way?

And on the other side, with a girl where you genuinely felt she had reached the breaking point, what was the major difference you saw? What specifically made you confident that her emotional capital/attraction/investment was actually gone rather than her just being hurt and emotionally overwhelmed?

Basically I'm trying to learn how you distinguish the two in real situations, because from the outside some of the behaviours can look very similar and thing is bee htorugh breakups where i was like def 100 precent sure this is break pint and no treurn only for me to realise it wasnt sorry for ebing redundant i just wanna pplly it to my situion currently as im confused

 

[Skills]

Okay Skills, can you give me an example of how you knew the difference between the two states?

didn't i just did

For example, with Mrs Skills, how did you know it was a soft breakup/separation and that she was likely to come back? What were the things you saw in her behaviour that made you classify it that way?

Because i know her, and i know she was really hurt for something i did,(yet again), and she was fine before i did that stuff...

And on the other side, with a girl where you genuinely felt she had reached the breaking point, what was the major difference you saw? What specifically made you confident that her emotional capital/attraction/investment was actually gone rather than her just being hurt and emotionally overwhelmed?

Because every attempt you try would be block not only temporarely...

Basically I'm trying to learn how you distinguish the two in real situations, because from the outside some of the behaviours can look very similar and thing is bee htorugh breakups where i was like def 100 precent sure this is break pint and no treurn only for me to realise it wasnt sorry for ebing redundant i just wanna pplly it to my situion currently as im confused

No they are not...


Soft break up:

- they do a lot of this(specially side girls):

Break Ups - The fake break up and my take on ultimatums (kind of similar)...

Something i seen with fuck buddies and women you are dating is a phenomenom that i will called the fake break up....The reason I call it the fake break up, its because all along you think you are done, and is not real... Usually happens when: -A girl you are seeing feels overwhelmed, or...

www.skilledseducer.com

- When you give them space and act like nothing happen little by little they will start comming back to the "normal pre war" state.

^ do not do what a lot of guys do that over compensate and add too nice and add too needy, you need to control yourself and be NORMAL. If you do the overcompensation, overly sweet and all that shit, it will be the same repulsiveness as the nice guy manipulation and she will lose attraction or start shit testing or re- live the war....


Also if you fucked up for real (me) you can do this:

Strategic position of weakness

There are some possible strategic position of TEMPORARY weakness that may be perceived as beta, weak, needy, chasing... But in reality they are not if it will give you another chance with an OBVIOUS lost opportunity... The main one that comes to mind is apologies but there are many such as...

www.skilledseducer.com

^ in my case i knew what was the issue, i reframed it, and i gave her space and acted normal little by little she was back....

 

[POB]

^ in my case i knew what was the issue, i reframed it, and i gave her space and acted normal little by little she was back....

Everybody fucks up.
It's normal to do wrong shit in a relationship, we are human and prone to fail.
What I usually do when it happens:
- strongly apologize once. If she persists or is too emotional, I kindly end the discussion right there and give her space.
- I show that I understand her point of view and own what I did. I never try to back off, take it back, or rationalize...even If I had a very good reason to do it, she is a woman and will never understand my rational words, especially in the heat of the moment.
- I reframe it as "yes, I see what I did wrong and I am on your side on this one". A great techinique is to remove yourself from the equation by framing the situation on a random fake person. Its hard to describe how to do it, but if you discuss it right, she'll dissociate you from what happened.
- get on with your life and forget about it. After a while she'll follow suit.

 

[Prodigy]

didn't i just did

Because i know her, and i know she was really hurt for something i did,(yet again), and she was fine before i did that stuff...

Because every attempt you try would be block not only temporarely...

No they are not...


Soft break up:

- they do a lot of this(specially side girls):

Break Ups - The fake break up and my take on ultimatums (kind of similar)...

Something i seen with fuck buddies and women you are dating is a phenomenom that i will called the fake break up....The reason I call it the fake break up, its because all along you think you are done, and is not real... Usually happens when: -A girl you are seeing feels overwhelmed, or...

www.skilledseducer.com

- When you give them space and act like nothing happen little by little they will start comming back to the "normal pre war" state.

^ do not do what a lot of guys do that over compensate and add too nice and add too needy, you need to control yourself and be NORMAL. If you do the overcompensation, overly sweet and all that shit, it will be the same repulsiveness as the nice guy manipulation and she will lose attraction or start shit testing or re- live the war....


Also if you fucked up for real (me) you can do this:

Strategic position of weakness

There are some possible strategic position of TEMPORARY weakness that may be perceived as beta, weak, needy, chasing... But in reality they are not if it will give you another chance with an OBVIOUS lost opportunity... The main one that comes to mind is apologies but there are many such as...

www.skilledseducer.com

^ in my case i knew what was the issue, i reframed it, and i gave her space and acted normal little by little she was back....

Hey skills turns out yeah it was breaking point and oh man never been heartbroken before not like this and its kind of awful when ou have all the material to run a relationship well but you still do these mistakes that lead her to lose attraction anyway ill go radio silent and just focus on myself and moving on , im totally out with her

 

[Skills]

Hey skills turns out yeah it was breaking point and oh man never been heartbroken before not like this and its kind of awful when ou have all the material to run a relationship well but you still do these mistakes that lead her to lose attraction anyway ill go radio silent and just focus on myself and moving on , im totally out with her

Sorry to hear that... And yes extremely painful and the pain will be there for a while and come at times... We all go through that make sure you constantly reading and watching break up channels and materials.... Ricardus posted some in my break up for secret society post...