Hi everyone,
On GC, it's generally advised to push for 1st date sex, which makes sense. The caveat is that if you manage to pull a girl to your place, if you push for sex and fail (for whatever reason you cannot get past LMR), the general consensus is that usually it means that you are very unlikely to get a 2nd date, since girls will tend to backwards rationalize that the reason sex didn't happen is because she probably doesn't like you that much, there is no chemistry etc. And that makes sense.
However, out of my last 5 lays, 3 have happened in this exact manner. I'd manage to pull the girl to my place, but fail to make sex happen.
With the 1st lay out of those 3, when I realized that sex won't happen that night, knowing that it's very likely that she would backwards rationalize and nothing would ever happen, I decided to try the following as a kind of last resort - I explained to the girl very openly that the reason I was pushing for sex that fast was because I thought that she would backwards rationalize and figure out that since we didn't sleep together, that we're probably not right for each other (of course, I was also understanding of her feelings and how she wasn't used to things happening that fast)
Now, at first this seems like the wrong thing to do, for many reasons. She could find me needy, she could assume that this happens to me often (failing to get sex), and on top of that, I was discussing "game" with her while "game" was happening. Obviously, it could backfire, but I figured "what the hell, it's going to shit either way, might as well try to take my shot in the dark and hope for a Hail Mary".
And, funny enough, it worked! She started qualifying herself, trying to convince me how that wouldn't happen, how she really liked me, how the only reason it wouldn't happen that night was because it was too fast for her, bla bla bla, and that we would definitely see each other again. And I was like, "well, I think you're wrong, but I guess we'll have to wait and see". And then, 2 days later, I invited her straight to my place for dinner, she accepted and we had sex.
And pretty much the same thing happened with the other 2 of those 3 lays.
Now, we could discuss why exactly this worked, perhaps they simply didn't want to seem incongruent after saying so adamantly that we would definitely see each other again, perhaps there was some ego involved, like "he thinks we're never gonna see each other again, even though I told him we would. He thinks that he's smarter than me, that he knows me better than I know myself. Well guess what mister Man, we ARE gonna hang out again, and I'll show you how right I am and how wrong you are, HA!" Whatever the reason, this tactic seems to work for me quite well.
Of course, the girl needs to actually be attracted to you to pull this off, and my thinking is that this works when the problem is comfort, not attraction. I should mention that all 3 girls were fairly young, between 20 and 24 years old.
I'm very interested in what you guys make of this. Do you think that these 3 girls were just a fluke? Or could this actually be a generally good way to respond when facing LMR that you just can't seem to break through?
On GC, it's generally advised to push for 1st date sex, which makes sense. The caveat is that if you manage to pull a girl to your place, if you push for sex and fail (for whatever reason you cannot get past LMR), the general consensus is that usually it means that you are very unlikely to get a 2nd date, since girls will tend to backwards rationalize that the reason sex didn't happen is because she probably doesn't like you that much, there is no chemistry etc. And that makes sense.
However, out of my last 5 lays, 3 have happened in this exact manner. I'd manage to pull the girl to my place, but fail to make sex happen.
With the 1st lay out of those 3, when I realized that sex won't happen that night, knowing that it's very likely that she would backwards rationalize and nothing would ever happen, I decided to try the following as a kind of last resort - I explained to the girl very openly that the reason I was pushing for sex that fast was because I thought that she would backwards rationalize and figure out that since we didn't sleep together, that we're probably not right for each other (of course, I was also understanding of her feelings and how she wasn't used to things happening that fast)
Now, at first this seems like the wrong thing to do, for many reasons. She could find me needy, she could assume that this happens to me often (failing to get sex), and on top of that, I was discussing "game" with her while "game" was happening. Obviously, it could backfire, but I figured "what the hell, it's going to shit either way, might as well try to take my shot in the dark and hope for a Hail Mary".
And, funny enough, it worked! She started qualifying herself, trying to convince me how that wouldn't happen, how she really liked me, how the only reason it wouldn't happen that night was because it was too fast for her, bla bla bla, and that we would definitely see each other again. And I was like, "well, I think you're wrong, but I guess we'll have to wait and see". And then, 2 days later, I invited her straight to my place for dinner, she accepted and we had sex.
And pretty much the same thing happened with the other 2 of those 3 lays.
Now, we could discuss why exactly this worked, perhaps they simply didn't want to seem incongruent after saying so adamantly that we would definitely see each other again, perhaps there was some ego involved, like "he thinks we're never gonna see each other again, even though I told him we would. He thinks that he's smarter than me, that he knows me better than I know myself. Well guess what mister Man, we ARE gonna hang out again, and I'll show you how right I am and how wrong you are, HA!" Whatever the reason, this tactic seems to work for me quite well.
Of course, the girl needs to actually be attracted to you to pull this off, and my thinking is that this works when the problem is comfort, not attraction. I should mention that all 3 girls were fairly young, between 20 and 24 years old.
I'm very interested in what you guys make of this. Do you think that these 3 girls were just a fluke? Or could this actually be a generally good way to respond when facing LMR that you just can't seem to break through?
