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So I have two job offers on the table right now, one is in Atlanta and another is in Atlanta. The one in Austin will pay me 65k while the one in Atlanta pays me 75k. Here are my thoughts recently based on what has been going through my mind.

I have failed hard here in Atlanta, find that the issue is I am into white girls but Atlanta has one of the highest black populations in the US. On the flip side I think I might not have been putting my best foot forward either. My fundamentals could improve, could get into much better shape, invest more in my hobbies and really be an attractive man. My job will pay a respectable salary for someone in their 20s I am slowly finding a group of guys to hit the bars with too....

The thought on my end in favor for Atlanta is if I do that and get white girls here, it would help immensely with inner game many years from now. Only thing holding me back is I see these fat bubbas and guys with horrible fundamentals get hot girls and it leaves me scratching my fucking head.

Then the case for Austin.

It is a new city, I have heard some decent things about it and I've heard it is an amazing place to spend your 20s in. Some downsides I've heard is that the ratio is not that favorable for men as there are more single men than single women in the city. On top of that it is a city I am completely unfamiliar with as well. The other downside is that the job won't pay me as much.

I am having a tough time deciding here and need to have this decision made by next week, any feedback will be appreciated.
 
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I vote Austin bro. $10K difference in pay isn't going to change your life (your more stressed about your social/dating situation than money so choose the decision that's going to handle that aspect of your life that you really NEED to get handled to get our of your funk).

I hear good things about Austin from seduction standpoint there's a lot of guys into pickup there if you wanted to get some friends that are into game and I hear the women are hotter. That being said the main reason I think you should go to Austin is because you've made ATL such a huge excuse for you that if you moved cities you could then see what the "true" problem is (i.e. is the problem actually ATL or does the problem follow you wherever you go?).

If you can go visit Austin for a weekend and check it out for yourself!

Lastly if noticed your writing linguistics shift slightly in a positive way and though I know you have a long road ahead of you I get the feeling your in the beginning stages of taking full responsibility for your situation to become a truly powerful man that gets what he wants out of his life. I hope to see you fulfill that destiny partner and perhaps a change in cities could serve as a catalyst for you to start over anew.

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Fully agree with Rob.

My only question that could change my answer is this: we already know that there's a money difference with the job, but is there a big time difference? Hypothetical example; Austin you work 50 hours a week vs Atlanta you work 70 hours a week. That extra time could do wonders for your game, which again, I agree with Rob. That is something that's going to eat at you until you fix it.

But I'm glad to hear you taking some responsibility!


In addition, I live in Nashville and have never been to Austin, but I used to drive with Lyft and have talked to A LOT of people that have lived in both. Austin is like a less green, more walkable Nashville. Which means that you can get around on foot a lot better, which is a huge plus for daygame. Nashville's beautiful and all, but it can be difficult to find women to talk to when you have a few hours to kill just walking around, gotta find some place to go.

That said, music is going to be huge in Austin. From what I've heard, it's less of a business than in Nashville and more for fun. You seem to be all about the money so keep in mind that if I'm right, your own vibe may clash a little bit with that of Austin. I'm sure other cities are exactly like this, which is why I bring it up, but in Nashville there's a huge divide in people depending on where you live. If you live on the west side of Nashville you'll find more business like people. On the east side of Nashville you'll run into hipsters and the like. If you live in south or north Nashville you're probably poor as fuck (lol I kid... a little bit >.>)

So try to get to Austin for like a week to scope out the city. If you can, get signed up for Lyft/Uber where you already live and then drive around the city talking to people while getting paid when you go to Austin. I never did Uber, but I assume it's the same as Lyft, once you're activated you can drive anywhere you turn the app on. However you won't get any bonuses.

Lyft was a phenomenal source of information when I first got here and I'm glad I did it for a while. Huge help and it's something that I recommend you do as well.

Ask people about the city and tell them that you're in town for a week or so and thinking about moving, trying to get a feel for the city. Ask about restaurants, stuff to do and the overall vibe of different parts of the city. That way you can find a place that will mesh with who you are and you'll be that much happier in the long run.


Lastly; I've talked to a lot of truckers and other types who drive all over the country for a living as well as people that have lived all over and they all say literally the same thing. Atlanta is the worst place to drive in the entire United States traffic wise. Though Austin, since it's a more walkable city will probably be a bitch to drive in as well but not as bad. From people that I've talked to, they agree that it's pretty bad (but this was in relation to Nashville so I'm unable to tell you just how bad it is).


So yea, I vote Austin. Oh! And don't forget to read this article: https://www.girlschase.com/content/singl ... h-new-city

And this one isn't mandatory but worth a gander:
https://www.girlschase.com/content/where ... e-any-town
 

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Believe it or not, Atlanta was SLOWLY starting to grow on me. I made a couple of friends I could go out to bars and pre-game with as well as finding some success on Bumble of all apps, had like 5 new matches in the past week which were all decent looking and white. My biggest complaint with Atlanta has been the overly aggressive black women that tend to have a tough time leaving guys alone when they have said they are not interested coupled in with snotty white women that stuck to tight cliques at bars.

Somehow, I was breaking through a little in Atlanta. Number closed this blonde 7 and had her follow me on social media.

I am going to take some time to evaluate the options for sure, to be honest I am not the best myself so maybe getting ripped like a male model and being more aggressive coupled in with pursuing cool hobbies could help out.

My other aim was to get a side-job at a bar but it seems like w/o Greek Life connections that is impossible in the Buckhead area at least.

Anyways, giving it a lot more thought in these next few days to seeing where we go with it but I feel like things are looking up for me, slowly but surely.
 

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Atlanta is loaded with disgruntled yankees from places like Pennsylvania and New York. You might notice you see a lot of people pulling for northern teams there and you'll find that tons of people from the north make it to the city due to the businesses that are popping up. Due to all that, you get a lot of the rude demeanor and assholes looking for a fight. I have family there and visit every now and then. The ratio of single women is high in Atlanta due to the black population, there are just a lot of black people there and most of those single women are black.

You do need social circle game to do well with white girls in Atlanta though, that much I can say from experience. Get involved in some hobbies and activity groups then go from there, it will be a lot easier to game. Be socially popular and have a big social circle, once you get that in place you should be able to do alright with white women in the A town. I don't recommend ever heading out to the Buckhead bars alone to game though.

As for Austin, I heard it is going through some demographic changes and the growing tech scene could mean some horrible ratios. Will have to get the word of Texans on here about it but it was THE city to be in as a millennial about a decade ago.
 

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+1 to everything rob said.

Austin is amazing. My fave city, full of drop dead gorgeous women who move there from all over the US and an unlimited supply of tourists to hit on. It’s def a big drinking city too. Rainey st and 6th st are both amazing places to drink and game as well as day game all over south congress which is wonderful. Ps I don’t hate Atlanta, I’ve done well there too but Austin is def better for women imo. And you’re right Atlanta has a lot of black women, Austin has tons of latinas, and they both have plenty of white women. Idk why ethnicity matters so much to everyone around here, I prefer to taste the rainbow. Diff strokes for diff folks I guess.

Hopefully moving to Austin myself soon.

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I visited Austin back in September - it's a fun place... big drinking and food scene and defintely a lot of women.

I'm not sure what ATL is like but if you have a job opportunity in Austin then you should definitely do it and not think twice. A great city to be in during your 20s and to get better with women. Plus it's one of the top destinations in the US to live.

When I moved to Denver a few years back I didn't even visit... just got the job offer and moved. I wasn't even worried about liking or not liking it since I knew everything would be fine.

You will be OK - good luck.
 

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Interesting... My sister offered I go live with her and her bf in Austin for awhile and I declined.

Might take her up on that offer.
 

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Cacc said:
Interesting... My sister offered I go live with her and her bf in Austin for awhile and I declined.

Might take her up on that offer.

Do you really wanna live with your sister and her bf though? Lol
 

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Well ethnicity matters to me because I have a type and I am not touching black American or Italian women. I would say more but don't want Girlschase to come off as a neo nazi site, anyone who has been around a lot of black people can probably relate though.

Still thinking this through guys, my thoughts are I am trending in the right direction with Atlanta with getting more matches and I finally do have somewhat of a crew to go out with. I am still thinking if I can crack the code of this city and get white girls here, what that would do to my game morale years from now.

Then I am still stuck in the sense that why can some fat fucking bubba get these girls and not me...

But the job is going to be better and a much better role, boss seems cool as fuck instead of sociopath I had in my last role, still going to give it some thoughts but thanks for the feedback so far guys.
 

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Austin is an amazing place :)

PeachFrustration said:
Then I am still stuck in the sense that why can some fat fucking bubba get these girls and not me...

Peachy boy, listen up here. This "fat fucking bubba" you're always talking about...he read the material on this site, and implemented the advice he got from others. You, on the other hand, do not read any material on this site, and do not implement the advice you get from others. I guess you really don't want to get these chicks that you desire.

Why does every thread you make turn into complaining.... you don't even reply to any of my posts on your threads...I am so offended!! :)
 

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PeachFrustration said:
Well ethnicity matters to me because I have a type and I am not touching black American or Italian women. I would say more but don't want Girlschase to come off as a neo nazi site, anyone who has been around a lot of black people can probably relate though.

Still thinking this through guys, my thoughts are I am trending in the right direction with Atlanta with getting more matches and I finally do have somewhat of a crew to go out with. I am still thinking if I can crack the code of this city and get white girls here, what that would do to my game morale years from now.

Then I am still stuck in the sense that why can some fat fucking bubba get these girls and not me...

But the job is going to be better and a much better role, boss seems cool as fuck instead of sociopath I had in my last role, still going to give it some thoughts but thanks for the feedback so far guys.

If you’re gonna stay in Atlanta, you need to knock that shit off. You don’t have to date a black woman as your type, but don’t talk about relating to people who have been around a lot of black people as if that doesn’t imply completely racist presuppositions. I was going to suggest Austin because it’s new for you and a different scene/chance to grow. I wonder if you should stay in Atlanta so you can learn how to be around black individuals without creating racist themes about black people as a group who you act like they are less desirable to hang around. Also, bubba may be pretty f’n awesome in his own way. Austin is super liberal compared to the rest of Texas so don’t expect the average person there to relate to your views of “black people” but it’s also Texas and they care about Bubba just the same. Adding those two to the boss bashing, i’m going to go out on a limb and say the reason you might not be doing as well with girls is because they can sense you don’t like a lot of people and that is a turnoff.
 

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Chill out, this is a public forum of guys trying to get better with girls, not some random liberal democrat rally, take the political correctness elsewhere or take it to Europe.

Yes, you have certain experiences being around black people and quite frankly, I am not attracted to black women and find it irritating that some come on to me. Have an issue with that then deal with it.
 

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An Average man is Average no matter where he goes.

So I'm predicting you are going to run into the same problems anywhere sooner or later.

Regional differences are becoming less and less as people become more mobile with their careers.

Given your response to the posters above I'd say you need to work on your tolerance. I'm guessing you don't like Mexicans either....

Take a look at the Census info. compare the stats. you have 4X the amount of White people there in Austin.


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http://www.city-data.com/city/Austin-Texas.html
http://www.city-data.com/city/Atlanta-Georgia.html


If and when you run into problems again look inward... .
 

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So after putting a lot of thought into it guys, I have decided to stick with Atlanta. I have taken it upon myself that for the next year or even two, I am going to try to make this city work for me. For a while I was entertaining a leave but I decided that I have some things that need to be resolved in Atlanta. I feel like even if I was to go to a new city, there would always be that aching feeling in my head of not being able to get any progress in Atlanta or not having had success in the city.

I am going to take a brand new approach to life, have a few hobbies I am going to take part in every weekend. Having more luck on dating apps and already number closed two girls off of Bumble.

It is my goal to get involved in at least a couple of group hobbies, trying to see which ones are best for Atlanta.

Will be eating well and working out first thing every morning to get in good shape, BF% is somewhat on the higher side now.'

I think things can work out for me here and if they don't after a year, I know I gave it my all.
 

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PeachFrustration said:
So after putting a lot of thought into it guys, I have decided to stick with Atlanta. I have taken it upon myself that for the next year or even two, I am going to try to make this city work for me. For a while I was entertaining a leave but I decided that I have some things that need to be resolved in Atlanta. I feel like even if I was to go to a new city, there would always be that aching feeling in my head of not being able to get any progress in Atlanta or not having had success in the city.

I am going to take a brand new approach to life, have a few hobbies I am going to take part in every weekend. Having more luck on dating apps and already number closed two girls off of Bumble.

It is my goal to get involved in at least a couple of group hobbies, trying to see which ones are best for Atlanta.

Will be eating well and working out first thing every morning to get in good shape, BF% is somewhat on the higher side now.'

I think things can work out for me here and if they don't after a year, I know I gave it my all.

I can respect that decision, but would like to let ya know that there's no reason to feel like you're letting yourself down by going into a new market.

In addition, if you'd like to build your own social circle there are lots of different ways you can do it. Join sites like meetup and etc. Find hobbies you enjoy doing. Just Google search hobbies + groups. You can also find Facebook groups this way too, for whatever you'd like to do. Since I'm assuming you are more in the corporate world, networking events will probably work double time for you.

Start into the hobbies a little bit and talk to EVERYONE. Anyone that seems even remotely cool (and single will probably help your cause for the next step) try to see if they'd be interested in hanging out. Watch the game (whatever game there happens to be) or even a bbq or something, anything. Once you have a little bit of experience running a circle and you have some respect of running it then you start trying to invite women as well.

Start playing matchmaker. Find out what people want to do, find out what their goals are. Hook them up with people that can help them in their goals. There was a post of Chase's how he had a roommate or a friend in college that had hardly any game but still got laid like a rockstar. The reason is because this guy would know fuckin everyone. He'd find out what people wanted out of life and hook them up with other people. This guy also knew at least a little bit about a lot of different things (can't remember, he may have actually known a lot about a lot but can't remember which) and came off as an authority. Girl likes psychology? He was an expert. Girl was interested in her tennis swing? He was an expert. He also knew other experts and would hook them up. Stuff like that. In the corporate world this works double for you because you know and hang out with friggin everybody.

Now you have the makings of a social circle that you have built. You're the alpha of. You can take it even further than that if you'd like.


Another route/option to take is a thread I found (I think it was on these boards but for the life of me I can't fucking find it and it irritates me so much) that had a fun plan. I want to say it was a post by Just_Dave or possibly Tuburao (spelling?), but again, can't remember. Anyways, just go up to any guy that looks remotely cool and invite him to a party that you're throwing. Go up to quadruple the amount of women as guys and invite them to your party. Make fliers, make cards, make a Facebook Group, make anything you need. You've recently gotten a promotion, or a new job, or whatever it is and you want to celebrate by having fun. This is a brand new thing that you want to start doing on a somewhat regular basis. Invite anybody that looks somewhat cool/hot. Invite hundreds of people if possible, the more the better and the quicker it'll grow.

Google Search: GirlsChase: How to throw an afterparty that gets you laid

This should turn up a few results for you. You can also do this at the bars/clubs if you'd like.

Once you have a big enough group start talking to local businesses about pregaming at their place in exchange for discounts and other treats. Now, not only are you the owner of a social circle that gets you laid but you also are the guy that gets the group discounts.

And as usual, still play matchmaker.

The reason that you want to play matchmaker and hook up some of your new/old friends with other new/old friends is because it makes the social circle bigger and stronger. Think about it, are you more likely to hang out with Guy A or Guy A who introduced you to your new friends B and C along with A?

People will remember you for giving them the hookups that they now treasure, or the new job that they wanted, or even helped someone out by getting them in touch with a golf instructor. Doesn't matter what it is. What does matter is that you, out the goodness of your heart have helped them achieve a goal of theirs. You ask nothing. You're just a source of awesome value. You become like giant pillar of light in a world of unending and dark loneliness. You're the fucking man!

Who wouldn't wanna hang out with the fucking man???

Men respect you. Men follow you. Women see it. Women start to like it. Women see other women start to like it. Women get wetter when they notice it. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Take pictures and post them to your Facebook Group. Hell, create an Instagram tag. Invite everyone to a now bustling Facebook Group/Instagram page. Use those to recruit more people into your domain.


Boom, barely even need game at this point (though I still highly, HIGHLY suggest that you work on another way to meet women. That can be day game, night game or even online game but make sure that your skills stay sharp).
 

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Thanks for answering the thread Regal and hope all goes well for you this year my man!

I am not the biggest fan of Meetup even though I did sign up for it. All Meetup groups in my city seem quite shitty and for an older crowd instead of a younger fun one. Occasionally I get emails from them but I never found it to be the place to meet decent enough people at, the Meetup scene here in the A-town is not all that great. As for networking events, I am looking for hobbies to take my mind off of the networking corporate grind. My job is enough and after that, I want to do more fun hobbies than the corporate networking thing. A lot of the corporate world can wear on you if you are not careful.

You know man, I too knew a kid like that in college who knew everyone and I am jealous of him. He was popular, invited to almost every sorority's formal and to this day his pics on Instagram get likes from sorority girls and even some of the football players that went to the school. The dude was a cool guy and I even had a few good conversations with him but as a whole, he made me jealous during my college days. Now he is in med school and still having some fun but probably not as much given how med school is like.

I think I remember that thread too!

Remember reading it a while back and it is a big event for me right now in life. Just recently I got a nicer paying job and am moving into a newer bigger apartment soon as well. Unfortunately I do not have the resources or know how right now in order to get the party going but I did kind of have a housewarming planned, not sure if it will pan out right now though.

Do I go up to guys I just met and do that or do I at least try to make friends with the guy first?

I have worked my way up from going out alone to now having a group of friends to go out with so I think I am improving there. It is my end goal to eventually get to a point where I am having big parties thrown. Social media and nightlife are pretty high up on my list for my twenties since I missed out on so much of that in college.

Here is one other bucket list item I want to work on before I get too old, bartending.

I always wanted to do it in college but never could due to the politics of a college town but now that I have a full time job, I want to do it on the weekends. Read one of Chase's posts that listed it as one of the top ways along with moving to a third world country for someone that wants to get laid.

Thinking about doing some photography too and trying to break into that scene, these next couple years are going to be busy!
 

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PeachFrustration said:
Thanks for answering the thread Regal and hope all goes well for you this year my man!

Thanks! Back at ya!

I am not the biggest fan of Meetup even though I did sign up for it. All Meetup groups in my city seem quite shitty and for an older crowd instead of a younger fun one. Occasionally I get emails from them but I never found it to be the place to meet decent enough people at, the Meetup scene here in the A-town is not all that great. As for networking events, I am looking for hobbies to take my mind off of the networking corporate grind. My job is enough and after that, I want to do more fun hobbies than the corporate networking thing. A lot of the corporate world can wear on you if you are not careful.

True, that meetup is typically for older people. But you can still find things to do that young people go to as well. It's just the young people don't find it through meetup. The latin dance community here in Nashville is one such example, I'm sure there are others

Fair enough on the networking stuffs. Still, you should be able to find groups easily enough. Just search for hobby + city + groups. Then pick off people for your own social circle gradually.

I think I remember that thread too!

Did you mean to hyperlink this part? Because you raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly sir....

Got all excited seeing the underline thinking 'omg somebody found it for me!' aaaaaaaaand it's only underlined lmao. Got me

Remember reading it a while back and it is a big event for me right now in life. Just recently I got a nicer paying job and am moving into a newer bigger apartment soon as well. Unfortunately I do not have the resources or know how right now in order to get the party going but I did kind of have a housewarming planned, not sure if it will pan out right now though.

That's what the after party articles are for to help ya out. If you don't want to do afterparties then you can do anything. Center the gathering around something else, like networking or a bbq or holiday or whatever else you can think of. Though it's been a while since I've read them, those articles might translate some good knowledge outside of strictly after parties as well.

Do I go up to guys I just met and do that or do I at least try to make friends with the guy first?

I'd say do both and see which one works out for ya better. I remember the article talked about just literally going around with fliers and handing them out to guys that looked cool as well as women that were hot. The first few probably won't do super well, which is another reason that I suggested trying to get some get togethers going from hobbies first. It would take a little bit longer, but it would be a little 'safer' of an option. This is also why you will probably have to invite hundreds of people.

I'm assuming though, that talking and meeting people (even if only for a few minutes) would yield a higher return. Same with the women, don't forget the women.

I have worked my way up from going out alone to now having a group of friends to go out with so I think I am improving there.
Excellent! Then you have already technically gotten started!
It is my end goal to eventually get to a point where I am having big parties thrown. Social media and nightlife are pretty high up on my list for my twenties since I missed out on so much of that in college.
The after party articles can help you get started in that case. That way you can kind of work into it from inviting people to an after party to just throwing them yourself. It's just an easier progression (I'm thinking). Though, if you just wanna go for it that would be the ballsier option (and the faster one).

I just always try to think of things within a progressing system, so that's where my advice always comes from. Which might not work for you.

Here is one other bucket list item I want to work on before I get too old, bartending.

Then that's where you should probably start. That way you can get more satisfaction from it since it's your goal. This will also allow you to easily pivot that position into other areas of your life, however you want it to :)

I always wanted to do it in college but never could due to the politics of a college town but now that I have a full time job, I want to do it on the weekends. Read one of Chase's posts that listed it as one of the top ways along with moving to a third world country for someone that wants to get laid.

Thinking about doing some photography too and trying to break into that scene, these next couple years are going to be busy!

Photography is my chosen angle :p

There's a product out there that follows what I did on my own to get 3K followers in about a month and a half. If you're wanting to use photography to build your social circle then I would go ahead and look up "IGCasanova" and "ChristianGreyPUA". Both are centered around Instagram. While I haven't gotten anything from IGC yet, I know the process that he uses in his product and can say that it works. The only difference is, is that you have somebody else do it instead of doing it yourself. Once I get past my situation and know if I'll be able to follow that plan, I'll end up getting it myself.

CGPUA has a pretty good book to help get you started. Though he doesn't post very often he does have some good advice that I recommend. The book, I think was like 20 dollars, so not much. And again, worth it in my opinion.

Though, I'm not sure if you want it to be more of a hobby or an actual job. If you're after it for a hobby then it could easily blend into whatever else you want to include in your life and you can use it as another funnel to bring people into your life.

What niche of photography were you thinking of getting into?
 

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I've been using the site Meetup but will look into the app since I've heard a few great things about it. Didn't know you lived in Nashville, I always wanted to live there! LOL did not mean to excite you for the underline but are you talking about this thread?

https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-h ... s-you-laid

As for going up to guys, I don't know man, people here in Atlanta are pretty damn hostile. I feel like due to the huge gay community here, everyone is paranoid and always on guard whenever a random guy talks to them. As a whole I've found that most guys in this city are not really easy to make friends with unless you meet them in a social circle type of setting. It is hard to describe but a lot of people here seem more on edge, might be due to the traffic, who knows.

I am having a crisis with the bartending thing because I am finding, after doing the research I have done, that it is a lot tougher to do on the side and most guys treat it as a primary career so they can do it on the weekdays, hence being available for most shifts. Trying to work with anyone on this site or any suggestions on what the workarounds are to this but man I would hate to quit a nice paying corporate gig that I earned in order to go and be a bartender. I also see the time running out on being a bartender as well.

Will definitely check out the products you recommended but I eventually want to do model photography in order to meet more girls.

TBH man, I want my partying hedonism lifestyle to go into overdrive, turned 25 recently and feel that the time is really running out for me to enjoy this sort of shit since your 20s are supposed to be the prime time. I know I will feel out of place doing this shit in my 30s, so many big life decisions to make!
 
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