I know that we are different and agree that we should not mix strategies, but is understanding each other not important? That's why fb/reddit groups such as "Women asking for advice from Men" and "Men asking for advice from Women" exist. But if you quickly peruse each group, there is a ton of extreme bias on both sides. There is also, selectively, some good advice on both sides.
I'm not here to tell men what to do. But I also don't expect men to read my mind. I'm sharing my story, experiences with men, and my perspective and trying to understand men more. If that is not of any value, feel free to disregard.
I haven't had much trouble keeping men I wanted who were/are somewhat normal. However, when it comes to top level seducers (300-500+ lay count/dating coaches/MPUAs), those are the men I don't quite understand yet. Maybe I won't ever understand, and that's okay too.
I am aware of those groups you mentioned, and I find them equally useless and hilarious. They are a good example of the fish trying to teach the fisherman analogy.
She's not offering the man she wants to be with money, she offered it to the matchmaker to find her a provider husband or to find a guy to impregnate her and pay her to be a mother/sole custody.
There are actually men out there who want to expand their progeny and not be involved as a parent or have minimal responsibility, but it's a very niche market.
But I agree, we can't buy the traditional man.
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Anyways, on topic, what Aella wrote are things that have worked to seduce me in the past (given that he has his fundamentals down too), and it seems that other men here agree.
She could easily find that guy for free. She is looking for a unicorn. I am 99.9% sure she has men ready to do all of that for her. No, she wants the guy she failed to get. I normally do not like discussing this topic with women, but I am giving you an exception to be fair in this thread. But even doing that is continuing to prove it is not possible to have this kind of talk with a woman. Because despite everything you said, you hardly thought about the fact, or at least took for granted, that men are constantly trying to get women's attention 24/7. I am going to assume by your name that you are asian. Assuming you are at least averagely attractive, you have had men coming onto you since you were a young girl. So to you, it is almost a given, so you take it for granted. However, unlike men who would explain this experience, to you, it's not even worth bringing up in this discussion because you do not care for it.
This is why men and women cannot socialize over these topics. You are unable to due your biological existence.
And no, what she wrote did not seduce you. It was the man who you thought was good enough for you, with all his traits, that seduced you. And not every man will be that for you. I doubt a fat man working at mcdonalds would even get close to you to be able to do all of that. Because again, you take attention for granted, so you can't even make that deduction. You had two posts to do so, and not once did it come up.
You should know that as a woman based on the amount of men you have ignored in your life. And I know you know that if you are trying to have this debate in the realm of this type of forum. But you are unable to due precisely because: you are a woman.
Going through her posts (which are really good), I found an ad for this:
https://www.slutcon.com/
Mind slightly blown lol.
Seems to be an event organized by Aella or her affiliates. I do like the "sex positivity" aspect of it, but paying thousands of $s for some flirt practice with professionals? Not so sure about that lol. I can have "flirt practice" for free, with natural girls, any day of the week. And so can most ppl on this forum.
That said, if you've got some money to burn, it sounds like it might be a fun experience.
So, anyone going?
I've seen these things before. Girls over 30 subreddit and similar forums have women doing similar things: acting like men by using money to try to lure men. But they don't want just any man. They want the man they failed to keep with any of the traits they possess.
By default, a young girl with a pretty enough face, men will throw money and attention to her. If a woman loses traits that made that easy for her, these modern women in the US will try to use money to get the man instead. But if you think about it, her ceiling for the man she can get has fallen. She can no longer get the rich doctor unless he is a lonely older man who wants anyone he can get. But anyone who has doctor friends knows that they typically get better girls than the average high tier man. Then you have stock market, finance, and STEM bros who, despite making similar money, are unable to get women, so they have more of a tendency of settling with women that aren't perfect. At the same time, you cannot buy them as they are making money anyway.
Teaching women to flirt is such a waste. Women like this are refusing to double down on being more of a woman. All of them act like rebellious men. Talk to any of them, and they are all like that. I call them failed women.
