Grand Pooba & successful brown guys of GC, where have you done the best?

[The Tool]

THIS IS THE REAL ISSUE. And they also don't hang out with Americans or guys of other races and cultures.
The problem with most of these posters, and these brown guys that complain about race being an issue, is greater than the problem presented at face value.

The issue is not that brown guys can't get white girls, but that these people don't want to acknowledge that they're unattractive in their current form and they may need to change who they are, their mindsets and belief systems, and their whole approach to life. A lot of brown guys have very big egos, and the ego gets in the way of improving their own circumstances. Why? Because you have to admit to yourself that YOU SUCK RIGHT NOW. You have to acknowledge your own shortcomings - and then change them! Guess what - it's not your race!

Ironically this big ego conversely helps other brown guys to get those hot ass white girls because when it's combined with confidence and not giving a fuck, it's a deadly combo. Think of the smart ass, rich, successful, kind of arrogant douchebag brown guy, but who's also firmly rooted in his values. This kind of guy I always see end up with sexy white girls, latinas, and Asian women. I have seen this so many times. It's what's also worked for me - when I'm doing really well I'm in this mindset.

There's also a positive stereotype to brown guys - they're intelligent, educated, smart, fun, can be sexy, and tend to be family and relationship oriented. Yes, there are sexy awesome girls out there who like this type of guy too - you just have to look for and find them. Usually day game is a good bet.

For brown guys who complain about race, it's actually a form of both self victimization , and also of validation in feeling like a worthless person. In both cases, you're not taking responsibility about your own shortcomings. I don't know what it is about Indian culture, but this feeling of worthlessness, feeling unworthy, and lack of confidence permeates some branches of brown men.

I struggled with this too, and didn't start seeing improved success until I addressed this internal problem. It still exists to a degree, but I've come a long way and each year continue to destroy this negative self image mindset. It's hard, and one of the hardest internal issues to battle, but absolutely critical to getting success in women and in life.

Also, what really helped me gain success recently is befriending and hanging out with the guys who easily get with the girls I most find sexy - think naturals or game oriented men - and then I adopt their habits, vibes, and mindsets to women.

This has got to be the greatest damn thing I have ever read in my entire life. Pooba this blew my mind with the truth you put in here. Bravo my friend Bravo.

 

[Grand Pooba]

BTW, is it true when they say NYC is like a continuation of college in the sense that the hookup culture thrives there, party scene is wild, and everyone just wants to have a fun filled time rather than settle down and have kids?

That definitely exists and is available to you if you want it at any time (even weekdays), but I wouldn't say thatit ddefines the whole city. There are also lots of people here who do want to settle down and have kids, though it tends to be a longer term goal rather than an immediate goal. Quite a few people also do get married, and settle down IN the city with the intention to have kids later. Or, they move to the other boroughs or suburbs nearby.

There are so many different kinds of people, jobs, and industries here. One of the strengths but also ccomes with it's own baggages.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

BTW, is it true when they say NYC is like a continuation of college in the sense that the hookup culture thrives there, party scene is wild, and everyone just wants to have a fun filled time rather than settle down and have kids?

That definitely exists and is available to you if you want it at any time (even weekdays), but I wouldn't say thatit ddefines the whole city. There are also lots of people here who do want to settle down and have kids, though it tends to be a longer term goal rather than an immediate goal. Quite a few people also do get married, and settle down IN the city with the intention to have kids later. Or, they move to the other boroughs or suburbs nearby.

There are so many different kinds of people, jobs, and industries here. One of the strengths but also ccomes with it's own baggages.

Gah, I would want to avoid that married and settled down crowd at all costs, where in the city do the fun and single people generally live?

 

[Grand Pooba]

Gah, I would want to avoid that married and settled down crowd at all costs, where in the city do the fun and single people generally live?

Honestly, all over the place! It's a massive, very dense city, and people in their post retirement can live next to college students here.
I feel like you're asking a question similar to "where do all the girls live?" or "where can I find pizza," it's very generic.
But...as a general rule of thumb...anywhere where there's a happening nightlife scene nearby - with bars, clubs, and cheap diverse food - or what's near a college campus nearby - you'll find a lot of people living nearby who tend to be fun and single. Anywhere that's more residential without amenities, or neighborhoods that have nightlife/restaurants that's VERY expensive with drinks and food, or quieter classier nightlife venues, you'll find fewer young people, and/or fun single people.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

No, just want to move there one day and wondering where I can find my fellow party people to have those fun nights and house/apartment parties with.

Thanks dude.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I have done the best in Arizona but it is because I was in a fraternity and that usually takes race out of the picture. Pretty sure I would not have the same degree of success if I hadn't pledged.

Hearing a lot of mixed things about NYC on here and elsewhere. From what I have heard from New Yorkers themselves, brown guys aren't exactly looked favorably upon in the city. I have talked to some brown guys working in the city who make good money and are well established but say they have a tough time and definitely say it's because of their race. One of them jokes constantly about how Indian men are sexless and cannot get laid.

I even met a Jamaican guy originally from Queens who visited my college for a party and was shocked to see me with a white girl, he said back in NYC that would be unheard of because "white girls hate Indian men".

While Grand Pooba, who I have a lot of respect for, claims that it isn't that bad for brown men, his posts do indicate some things such as him getting looks for being out with a white girl and how his cousin who managed to pull hot blondes was a millionaire. Oh Pry's posts also hint at that stigma being particularly strong in the city to where you are only limited to certain kinds of women, not the hot blondes so many brown guys want apparently.

From what I gather, being brown definitely isn't any sort of an advantage there but brown guys with tight fundamentals can do okay.

Best way to really get to the bottom of this is to have a handsome brown guy make an account on a popular dating app or site, try his luck in various cities by changing the locations, and then seeing how well he does in each one as well as what kinds of women he gets.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

People in NYC are generally shallow about a lot of things and the race of a guy is most definitely one of them. I think it has to do with the history of the city to where even certain European immigrants were seen as lower status, now it seems to have carried on over to Asian and brown immigrants. New Yorkers love to stereotype everyone, especially based on ethnic background and the women do it the most. Unfortunately, if you're Indian then it doesn't work in your favor.

The verdict I have reached about the city so far is that a brown guy with tight fundamentals can most definitely score but that is mainly because of foreign women coming to the city. Occasionally, I've gotten lucky with American women in the sense that they were either older so didn't really care about the status games or from small towns so kinda naive and lost. I tend to well with girls from southern states like Texas for some reason.

White American girls who are a part of the yuppie and fresh out of college crowd generally don't go for minorities. A lot of these girls are big on image and in that case, being brown doesn't do you any favors, not a good city to be in if you want the blonde American girl types. In a city where image matters a lot and a lot of these fresh out of college girls are chasing it, they don't want to risk their status by saying to their friends they're dating a brown guy.

Your race will play the biggest role among the judgmental yuppie crowds that dominate a lot of the wealthier and "fun" areas of the city.

While you can most definitely get laid as a brown guy with tight fundamentals here, you do have a ceiling. I've personally never seen a brown guy having some luck with hot girls in areas like the Meatpacking district and just the more image conscious areas in general. Long term, I want to move out of this city.

I feel so fortunate that European and foreign women visit the city and some of the brown guys I've talked to feel the same way.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

This thread made me reflect on my experiences of people watching and running lots of night game then realize that I have never really seen an Indian dude pull a blonde bombshell before, probably one of the rarest interracial couples out there for sure.

 

[Grand Pooba]

Amazing talk by Dr. David Tian on this subject: https://youtu.be/yNtKWhoK_sA

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Ever since moving from Georgia to Florida, I have seen more Indian guys having success, have seen some making out with cute girls at a bar, and even met some hot girls who have found a handsome Indian man attractive so I guess there is something to the state. Still, you kinda have to blame Indian culture here.

Can't speak to Georgia, only been and gamed once, but if it's not good, then go somewhere else!

For the record, I am not Indian, I am white

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Just recently, I've learned the beauty of NYC.

Yes, there is undoubtedly a lot of racism in the city and the whole what ethnicity is better thing is real but the transplants, tourists, people staying here from other countries, other states, and other areas make it beautiful. If you stick to the younger parts of Brooklyn and Manhattan, it should not be a major issue. The trick is to avoid girls who are way too entrenched in the NYC Sex in the City and Keeping Up With the Joneses culture.

I recently hooked up and slept with this sexy French Canadian blonde. Went out to the city and definitely did get some stares, had one incident where angry guys shouted racial slurs at me because they wanted to get with her, but when you get some pussy out of it in the end then who cares.

Have a thick skin, chase after women who are transplants and tourists to the city, and you should be good to go.

I would recommend stick to Manhattan and maybe Brooklyn, perhaps Astoria in Queens too. These areas are mostly where the transplants, expats, and tourists are at; you'll have plenty of options there.

The racists and bigots in the Mid-Atlantic, most who hate Indians and brown people in general, tend to be in areas like Long Island, places not mentioned, and just the northeast in general outside of NYC. I would avoid New Jersey.

 

[The Armani Code]

Very information rich thread guys.

I wanted to post a separate thread about it but then I look into my inner game and realized that what really depresses me is that I don't see any brown guys doing well out here in California. When I posted this thread, I wanted to hear from other brown guys having success because that gives me hope and in turn shows me it can be done.

I believe that women care a lot about a guy's race and I don't really get confidence going when I approach women. A part of me thinks what's the point of approaching hot California blondes when they have never been with a brown guy before, maybe there is a reason for it, maybe they hate associating with my kind, and that sort of thing.

Maybe I am paranoid here to a great degree but I feel that in certain cities, there is this social push and taboo to keep attractive women away from men of certain races. I just feel that seeing a brown guy out there doing well and just killin it with the ladies would do wonders for me and show me that it can be done.

I guess I have that fear in regards to race, that because there aren't any brown guys doing well in a city, it must mean that racism in the city has women cautiously avoiding Indian men. Definitely feels like there is something like that going on here in California, whites here tend to look down on Indian males and see them as a comic punchline.

 

[Grand Pooba]

I guess I have that fear in regards to race, that because there aren't any brown guys doing well in a city, it must mean that racism in the city has women cautiously avoiding Indian men. Definitely feels like there is something like that going on here in California, whites here tend to look down on Indian males and see them as a comic punchline.

The racists and bigots in the Mid-Atlantic, most who hate Indians and brown people in general,

Ok, so this is something I'm genuinely curious about - open to anyone who wants to pitch in.

What are the negative stereotypes of brown men and dating them? They can be from anywhere - media, your friends, your college, what you've heard and read. Anywhere, really...

Here's a few that come to mind, for starters:
- Brown guys don't treat women well.
- An Indian guy's family will never accept a non-Indian girl (same for Pakistani, Muslim, etc).
- Brown guys aren't good in bed, aren't sexual.
- Brown guys only hang out with themselves.

I ask because I want to [continue to] alter my game and vibe to counteract such negative stereotypes. Ultimately, they're just limiting beliefs in perception applied to a wide group of people. If one can break the perception, then these limitations cannot be applied.

In the video I linked above, David talks about altering his own appearance and vibe by keeping all the good stereotypes pertaining to Asian men, while directly counteracting negative stereotypes to Asian men through his appearance, vibe, game, and social skills. He also mentions the key is not simply to "become white," but rather it's embracing the good parts, and the cool history in culture - while counteracting the bad stuff by not fitting into people's molds of that.
Thus when women meet him, he's Asian but also exotic, and "there's something different about him," compared to stereotypes. That causes intrigue.

Socially, this has worked for me very well - I find it pretty easy to make friends and circulate between very different social groups.

 

[Lotus]

I'll add

-an ignorance/apathy to social norms and cues.
-unaccustomed to group settings

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Funny that Lotus chimed in, I heard that brown guys had it pretty good in South Florida but I guess I heard wrong.

Grand Pooba,

I don't really think it's one particular thing and even though Girlschase might not want to hear it, it's not like the brown guys out there struggling are mostly the stereotypical Indian immigrant. What I think is going on is that there is this overall stigma attached to hooking up with a brown guy or dating one and hot girls (blonde bombshells in particular more than any other kind of women out there) pick up on this sort of thing. It's part of the reason why it is cool to date an Australian guy in the USA, because media and your friends say it is cool to date an Australian guy, that's all there is to it.

The issue is that it isn't "cool" for a girl to make love to a brown guy, when she tells her friends how she hooked up with this Indian guy, her friends are not going to shower her with praise.

Now Chase and Franco will say that there aren't enough cool Indian guys out there, I disagree. I have met plenty of Indian men who are handsome with tight fundamentals and a promising future, they still get passed over by American women here in NYC for loser white guys heading nowhere in life. I think that there is definitely some degree of hate going on, maybe these women are scared of being socially ostracized and destroyed by their racist social circles, jealous men in their lives, and other people if they go for men of certain races.

Maybe this explains why I have a much easier time with European women and find them to be more open to going for cool guys of various ethnic groups, because they don't have any obligations to racist men and hateful people in their social circles. Compare that to your typical American blonde party girl who likely has a lot of angry racist guys in her social circle that would try to destroy her image if she went for a Zayn or Kal Penn lookalike.

This is part of the reason why I believe that location is more important than some may think, even despite all the progress I have made, there are some areas of the USA I would never go to if my aim was to get laid. All we can really do is go out there, try our best, try game in various cities, and then come share our results because I have to say, it feels very lonely sometimes feeling like I am the only brown guy doing halfway decent in a given location.

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

Oh Pry,

And right there is how I know your LRs are fake. So much bullshit from that post I can't even begin to describe it. I know plenty of Indian, Middle-Eastern, brown, etc guys who directly contradict everything you're saying.

Either get real or stop posting.

Hector

 

[Grand Pooba]

So much bullshit from that post I can't even begin to describe it. I know plenty of Indian, Middle-Eastern, brown, etc guys who directly contradict everything you're saying.

+1

 

[Lotus]

FYI my reference points do not come for South Florida.

OP has no real search for answers. The search is only for excuses.

You have "26 lays" and decent money(obviously with the cost of living it's relative") but still it's not enough. I'll tell you, I have had sex with fewer girls then you and live in a less popping place. But I can guarantee I have more fulfillment.

It's 100% clear to everyone here but you.... You are searching for answers in the wrong places.

But the thing is... no one can make you walk down your path.... only you can.....

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

My lay reports are not fake, if there was a way I could prove that it was real, I would but I am not yet in a situation where I feel comfortable taking pics as I do it. I have been wanting to take a ninja pic of an encounter or two to prove how authentic it is but I can never get myself to do it. That was a low blow btw.

As for my statement, that has been my experience with girls of certain groups but I also said that girls of other groups aren't like that. At this point it's a broken record but I would love to meet brown guys who can prove my point wrong and pull well, the many times I've been out, I've rarely seen it. Even GP admitted on this very thread that random strangers comment on him being out with hot girls of other races, that should tell you something.

Edit:

Hector, the next time I get laid, I am taking a ninja pic and sending it to your inbox.

Same goes for you Lotus.

 

[Grand Pooba]

Even GP admitted on this very thread that random strangers comment on him being out with hot girls of other races, that should tell you something.

Never said this, no one ever comments.
I've also traveled to very "white" rural conservative areas with girlfriends on trips, in multiple states, to local restaurants, no comment.
Honestly many times they've been nicer than if I were with a brown girl, which I've also experienced, lol....