Have you ever converted dead leads to dates, if so how?

[Arnav]

Hi guys

I have a question regarding texting old contacts, more than 2 months + , dead leads that never marerialized into dates .

I read somewhere on the forum, that you should not be deleting these numbers and ping them periodically.

Have you guys ever been sucessfull in getting a date from these dead leads.

Whats your sucess rate and what do you text them usually?

 

[mirror]

Hi guys

I have a question regarding texting old contacts, more than 2 months + , dead leads that never marerialized into dates .

I read somewhere on the forum, that you should not be deleting these numbers and ping them periodically.

Have you guys ever been sucessfull in getting a date from these dead leads.

Whats your sucess rate and what do you text them usually?

Just try it, it´s gambling at its best, but sometimes it works out well. you have nothing to lose by just sending a ´ hi, how are you, just saw (...) and thought of you.´ message.

 

[Arnav]

Just try it, it´s gambling at its best, but sometimes it works out well. you have nothing to lose by just sending a ´ hi, how are you, just saw (...) and thought of you.´ message.

if you do meet sich girls, is the attraction still there, or you would have to run perfect game in such scenarios

 

[mirror]

if you do meet sich girls, is the attraction still there, or you would have to run perfect game in such scenarios

You have to run perfect game i any scenario. Not everyone has the same pace, so there is no answer for all. Some that respond will be DTF, others will need the fireworks and more.

 

[OldGuy]

I have done it several times with different women. Back then, (70s and 80s), I called them up and arranged to meet them. All cases were relationships that had become long distance, and after more than a year I looked them up and went on a date. In one case it became a ltd for several years where we would get together every time I had to go to DC for business. The way the relationship had ended, with one of us moving away, may have been what left things open.

 

[Arnav]

I have done it several times with different women. Back then, (70s and 80s), I called them up and arranged to meet them. All cases were relationships that had become long distance, and after more than a year I looked them up and went on a date. In one case it became a ltd for several years where we would get together every time I had to go to DC for business. The way the relationship had ended, with one of us moving away, may have been what left things open.

Have you ever had one from a cold approach number close which stopped responding and you re-engaged her after some time off


what do you text such girls when it has been a long time, to get them out on a date?

 

[isildur1]

on a few occasions but this was all due to instagram stories, facebook and wechat.

I try to get every girl i dates' social media so i at least remain in their life for a long period of time so that when they break up they can recontact me from commenting on my stories - 2018 i got a lay from posting an instagram story about a party i was planning posting pictures of alcohol bottles and a girl who'd flaked on me 2 months ago rehooked and we met that night as i asked her to help me prep for the party in exchange for cooking for her- it was a good strategy as i had social proof that i was planning for an event and clarified that i wasn't a complete loser with no friends which women might insinuate lot of daygamers to be. The instagram story helped show that my life was "adventurous" and worth being a part of.

On another occasion in 2020 my friend hosted a party i posted a pic of a big grey goose vodka bottle with the caption "hope bill gates doesn't mind us having a party in lockdown" and a daygame flaked commented and i went on a date with her but the date went shit- was my first date for 6 months due to lockdown and i was feeling just meh but a dates a date nonetheless and wouldn't have happened without social media

a few other girls i had rehooked from wechat from posting photos of myself in china when i had approached them in London- a few of them would comment on my stories and be like "wow you are china come visit me" some of these were sucesful others weren't moral of the story is always try and hook women on social media- its the best way to "stay in their life" without being needy is posting stories - wechat, facebook and kakao talk photos. Kakao talk, wechat, facebook and instagram are all useful tools in your arsenal to use.

I've never really rehooked a dead lead from whatsapp unfortunately but im sure it can be done

alot of daygamers make life so difficult for themselves by not using social media it's honestly a great tool and i'd never cold approach without it - of course you do need good photos and an interesting life too of course

 

[OldGuy]

Have you ever had one from a cold approach number close which stopped responding and you re-engaged her after some time off


what do you text such girls when it has been a long time, to get them out on a date?

I use the name Oldguy for a reason! Got their phone number and called them on a landline. These were all pre-text, pre-social media, and pre-cell phones. They were all women I met through social circle and had had multiple dates with before reconnecting.

 

[Arnav]

on a few occasions but this was all due to instagram stories, facebook and wechat.

I try to get every girl i dates' social media so i at least remain in their life for a long period of time so that when they break up they can recontact me from commenting on my stories - 2018 i got a lay from posting an instagram story about a party i was planning posting pictures of alcohol bottles and a girl who'd flaked on me 2 months ago rehooked and we met that night as i asked her to help me prep for the party in exchange for cooking for her- it was a good strategy as i had social proof that i was planning for an event and clarified that i wasn't a complete loser with no friends which women might insinuate lot of daygamers to be. The instagram story helped show that my life was "adventurous" and worth being a part of.

On another occasion in 2020 my friend hosted a party i posted a pic of a big grey goose vodka bottle with the caption "hope bill gates doesn't mind us having a party in lockdown" and a daygame flaked commented and i went on a date with her but the date went shit- was my first date for 6 months due to lockdown and i was feeling just meh but a dates a date nonetheless and wouldn't have happened without social media

a few other girls i had rehooked from wechat from posting photos of myself in china when i had approached them in London- a few of them would comment on my stories and be like "wow you are china come visit me" some of these were sucesful others weren't moral of the story is always try and hook women on social media- its the best way to "stay in their life" without being needy is posting stories - wechat, facebook and kakao talk photos. Kakao talk, wechat, facebook and instagram are all useful tools in your arsenal to use.

I've never really rehooked a dead lead from whatsapp unfortunately but im sure it can be done

alot of daygamers make life so difficult for themselves by not using social media it's honestly a great tool and i'd never cold approach without it - of course you do need good photos and an interesting life too of course

I see , so you need to raise your value and attraction to her -which you did through social media framing yourself through your stories and posts.

And this resparks her interest.
Kinda difficult to do through whatss app.

 

[isildur1]

I see , so you need to raise your value and attraction to her -which you did through social media framing yourself through your stories and posts.

And this resparks her interest.
Kinda difficult to do through whatss app.

When i did daygame in London i always looked to close through instagram , facebook and wechat

why because i had the social proof from the photos that i wasn't a weirdo and if they flaked on me i could in the future rehook them through stories

Of course the retention rate was like 2-3 percent but its still a lot better than nothing . Also works when girls are going through busy periods or exam seasons the stories you put on instagram can reengage them after- through 100 instagram flakes it sort of works to bring in an extra couple of lays in the long term

it sounds fake and lame but it does work if you have good volume and are persistent in your approaching and closing - but you gotta make sure your social media profile is good- if you have bad photos or lame boring pics social media can work against you- if you have interesting ones it can work in your favour. When i was 21 i was trying to close women through facebook during nightgame sessions but my facebook photos sucked ass and it was causing a lot more problems than solving - i resolved this my continually getting better photos , buying a proper camera and always looking to take good photos.

The Complete Instagram and Social Media Guide for Dating and Relationships

Why Good instagram photos are key to men’s seductive success darrenpua1@gmail.com for networking/ etc. Mindful-Masculinity.org follow my blog please :) Before I digress into the world of phot…

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wrote a guide about it here


too many people in this forum seek whatsapp only without realising that modern day women are spending 90 percent of their time on instagram, snapchat ( if they are middle eastern) , kakao talk( if they are korean) wechat ( if they are chinese, macau, hong konger or taiwnese) whatsapp actually comes second to all these apps in terms of utility so if youre primarily using whatsapp you risk being "forgotten about" if you don't use the main social media apps

 

[Arnav]

When i did daygame in London i always looked to close through instagram , facebook and wechat

why because i had the social proof from the photos that i wasn't a weirdo and if they flaked on me i could in the future rehook them through stories

Of course the retention rate was like 2-3 percent but its still a lot better than nothing . Also works when girls are going through busy periods or exam seasons the stories you put on instagram can reengage them after- through 100 instagram flakes it sort of works to bring in an extra couple of lays in the long term

it sounds fake and lame but it does work if you have good volume and are persistent in your approaching and closing - but you gotta make sure your social media profile is good- if you have bad photos or lame boring pics social media can work against you- if you have interesting ones it can work in your favour. When i was 21 i was trying to close women through facebook during nightgame sessions but my facebook photos sucked ass and it was causing a lot more problems than solving - i resolved this my continually getting better photos , buying a proper camera and always looking to take good photos.

The Complete Instagram and Social Media Guide for Dating and Relationships

Why Good instagram photos are key to men’s seductive success darrenpua1@gmail.com for networking/ etc. Mindful-Masculinity.org follow my blog please :) Before I digress into the world of phot…

mindful-masculinity.org

wrote a guide about it here


too many people in this forum seek whatsapp only without realising that modern day women are spending 90 percent of their time on instagram, snapchat ( if they are middle eastern) , kakao talk( if they are korean) wechat ( if they are chinese, macau, hong konger or taiwnese) whatsapp actually comes second to all these apps in terms of utility so if youre primarily using whatsapp you risk being "forgotten about" if you don't use the main social media apps

Okayy, thanks for this guide man. Yeah gotta level up my social profiles.

 

[isildur1]

Okayy, thanks for this guide man. Yeah gotta level up my social profiles.

think for daygame flake reduction the quickest thing you can do to help your results is level your fashion and your social media profile - short term , getting good photos isn't a hard thing to do and just makes your life easier

 

[isildur1]

and i'd say the biggest sticking point of all new gamers i've met is just that they have truly horrific photos- no professional pics and a poor whatsapp photo - they are literally shooting themselves in the foot before theyve even began.

but it was the same with me starting out my fashion was awful , id be afraid to invest in clothing and i never put proper thought into what impression my clothing or photos were having on the women i was closing. i wasn't portraying an interesting life at all and it was just garnering me flakes- the self awareness of weaknesses takes different time for different people