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[Francis]

Spoiler: Background

Alright so last night I had a dream that I pulled out my wallet and gave Skills $10 (maybe my max coaching budget? Jk wouldn't waste his time until taking 1000x nighttime action) and then the girl went to China to meet her pen pal (5 seconds of dream, only memory)... I woke up in the middle of the night and smelled her on my sheets and sobbed for another solid 5 seconds. That's it! Need to deadlift.

She's not leaving soon, but stood in a sundress in front of my bed with her arms stretched saying if you want a relationship I'm here. She held back a lot of tears. It was hard. This was after she brought broccoli over etc. She came more than the first time and said it felt perfect.

I was actually disappointed we didn't get takeout dinner and eat together. It's for the best that she closed off and left, but we had a good goodbye with lots of kissing and holding her and looking in her eyes out by her car after a tough talk upstairs. She said this would be it, cut off, but also mentioned at one point to text her in the future when she hopefully has her shit together.

I think that living with her dad is still a big barrier to her being willing to have a casual partner. She had already told her sister about me. Probably more experienced than me despite a decade younger. She's a real investor who has never had guy friends and her heart would shatter if it locked in without progression. I hope she reaches out honestly. What a fantastic girl. I never would have met her online. She's like accelerated into a more mature stage for her age and does three dates, LinkedIn investigations before meeting, etc. Pandora NJI

Spoiler: Warmup

So on four hours sleep I went to lunch with a coworker from the same city, different building, a little older, first ever time meeting in person. I wish I could get into it, but it was well done... Subtle implication only. I think I got her horny mad by completely disqualifying myself as a provider. Briefly touched on last night's breakup after meeting two times because she wanted something different. Said she was a really cool girl and it was tough.

After lunch in the lobby going for coffee, there was a woman maybe in her early 40's taking a photo of the ceiling.

I think I did SAC pings C, then A, then S.

Same ceiling:

What is your cold approach banter process?

Hi guys, I just did my first ever coffee shop line approach and got a number from a beautiful Latina architect with a slim waist. She seems maybe a few years older than me, which dampens the dynamic a bit. So my question is what is your process for banter, like do you have a high level mental...

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I walked a little past and over the shoulder said "do you want me in your picture" and she started walking next to me. I then started checking out her body in peripherals while walking and think she noticed. She said "you can be in it" (now isn't that an ideal answer...), so I asked if she's a tourist. She parted paths and I kept talking so she stopped and answered she was attending a conference. I'm untucked today, casual shirt.

I asked if in [area and pointed] and this was interesting because I ended up pointing kind of toward me, and she moved as if instructed by it instantly, coming up to me and telling me where she's from. I asked about what the conference is for, guessed the acronym and qualified her on it. She asked where I work. Said she's here for one week.

I proposed we exchange numbers and get together. She asked if I'm local and I told her that I live just [short logistics away]... Subtle yet obvious implication.

So she handed me her phone and I touched her hand taking it, putting my number in. Then I took it back from her and texted myself her name. I think I did the handclasp and held a little? Can't remember, so tired. She told me what the area code would be with a smile.

She said something I can't remember that was sort of self conscious about the photo, and I said no it's beautiful (subtext qualification of her as beautiful, I believe. Maybe I'm just imagining the subtext lol but even if so it communicates a vibe like assuming attraction does. But I think WIA or maybe it was Karea said even inserting little words with associations (like emphasizing bedroom out of sex context) that aren't quite innuendo can still do the trick to subtly imply and plant that seed in her with the right nonverbals.

So we parted and I said I'd talk to her later. We kept eye contact with her smiling as our view became obstructed by a pillar.

Then I got coffee and chatted with the barista for a bit.

 

[Francis]

Passed up one cute young blonde girl in a convenience store aisle who smiled right at me. RIP @StrayDog.

And another slim blonde maybe slightly older in the cafe. The barista conversation gave me major social proof cause we know each other and were vibing (non-sexual... That's the other barista). But I didn't know how to bring her in or stop her heading right past me as I was in mid conversation.

Onwards and upwards

 

[Francis]

Taking $10 bets she won't respond.

Sky high attainability

Me: Pleasure running into you [her name]. I hope the conference is still intellectually stimulating despite you knowing exactly how it's going to go.
-Francis

It was a recertification she's done a few times. Pretty blatant subtext.

Too easy.

 

[Francis]

All bets off.

***

Me [yes, delayed double text]: When are you here til? We should grab a tea or something... Have a chat and get to know each other

Her: Hi Francis
What's your schedule like this week?

Me: Perhaps the weekend, though tomorrow would work best... Maybe [place] on [street]?

Her: I hate to be this way... can I say maybe to tomorrow and let you know by early afternoon? What time were you thinking?

***

Guessing it depends on dinner with colleagues etc.

 

[Francis]

2026-03-11 - "Reverse Beckster" probably shouldn't reverse it, but what came out is an older lady maybe mid 40's was walking out of parking I was passing on the sidewalk. Caught a hair flip, so had to do it. Luckily she turned my way following behind and again to head the same direction. Over a shoulder I said "here I thought I'd have the best overcoat out today, yet here you are" [note mine was casual, hers peacocked].

She said mine? Oh thank you. She seemed slightly skeptical. I asked if she was heading to my building and she said another one. Asked if she worked where I thought (it was yes, but I should phrase these as cold reads; like instead of "do you work for", say "you must work for"). Got into brief boring professional exchange, no emotions elicited, but it establishes a social key of safety I suppose? It was a morning street stop compliment on her path after all.

It turned out our work interacts at a degree of separation, so as she turned to take her light I say I should take you [bad reverse frame] for a coffee as a thank you [ok frame] then... , ... Are you single? She says no and places her hand on my upper shoulder, leaving it there for a few seconds while sort of in the street. Turning away of course, but I wish I could read her journal about what was behind her eyes. It was like a wishful regret, touched and remorseful.

Could have used more sexual undertone.

Direct high attainability is like "aw hunny..."

Gotta get an IOI first before qualifying, but we're on the street with thirty seconds. Missed the tease. I said no worries... Love your coat! Maybe I'll see her again. Would be cool to bang in a car after work. Close quarters though is like being a neighbor.

Then I walked right past a younger brunette in dark flowy business casual walking like a model straight at me.

Am I really supposed to blurt out "damn girl your walk is fine!" A bit, shall I say... Direct?

I should have asked her for the time and read her micro expressions.

 

[Higher]

Are you single? She says no and places her hand on my upper shoulder, leaving it there for a few seconds while sort of in the street. Turning away of course, but I wish I could read her journal about what was behind her eyes. It was like a wishful regret, touched and remorseful.

Some time ago I opened a stunner Persian gal, maybe early 30s. She absolutely loved the approach. Then I asked her the same question. She sighed, looked at me with puppy eyes and after a pause she said "unfortunately I'm married".

Ah, social rules.

Am I really supposed to blurt out "damn girl your walk is fine!" A bit, shall I say... Direct?

A slow, intense direct approach, delivered with a nice buildup of anticipation that erupts with a targeted compliment, and given from a high-value, powerful, calibrated (almost contained) and non-needy frame never fails---even if the girl ends up rejecting you. It strengthens your inner frame too.

The worst response I get from this is a tolerant "thank you", with an undertone of "...for wasting my time". But that usually happens in one specific city (very high-value men, feminist women, very reserved society, and tons of "money-grabbing", single expats all around) when I'm not speaking the local language, I'm not in top physical/mental shape, and I'm not selecting my targets more carefully. More and more rare nowadays.

 

[Ratata]

Honestly man, your opener and initial approach mechanics are solid. The situational openers and light social entry are exactly what I’d do myself to start these interactions. Natural, low pressure, and they get people talking. Great stuff!

Where you seem to stall a bit is after that.

A lot of your interactions seem to drift into neutral territory — conference talk, work talk, logistics. That keeps the vibe socially pleasant, but it doesn’t really create any sexual tension. Which makes you the safe (yet kinda boring) social guy. And otherwise you’re forgotten the second they look away. Sorry.

One thing that might help you is adding a bit more masculine polarization into the interaction earlier. Not necessarily just with words, but also with body language. Stand closer. Give more intense eye contact. Yes, really focus on remembering to do that lingering handshake for longer. Do it while standing lip-bitingly close to her, or looking her into her eyes like that — but you’re not doing anything yet, cuz you need to see where she stands too. See how that creates sexual tension just by thinking about it?

Right now you’re playing it very safe and agreeable. That’s comfortable, but it can lead to these interactions sitting in a kind of polite limbo. When you introduce a bit of personality, teasing, or playful friction, you tend to get clearer reactions faster. And you want that, cuz then you can also gauge faster if it’s time to escalate or bounce.

For example instead of neutral questions about the conference or work, you could make slightly more opinionated or playful statements. Things that give her something to react to. Talk about light stuff. Make observations about her. (They don’t even need to be true as long as it gets her talking.) Then find creative ways to either romanticize it, or sexualize it, with some future projections with you and her against the world, in a king size bed, making love, on top of the Eiffel Tower. Um, I may have taken it a bit far here but I’m sure you get what I’m trying to say...

Stuff like playful assumptions, teasing, or lightly challenging her a bit. Not in a confrontational way, just enough to create some emotional movement in the conversation. Said with a smirk. If she says the wrong thing, mock push her away — physically — for a second. Then go “Just kidding, I love you! C’mere, gimme a hug!” This......... is the magic of push pull.

That tends to do two things.

First of all, Women who aren’t into you filter themselves out faster, which saves time. Yes, you’ll get faster rejections that way, but honestly you really want faster rejection cuz you don’t wanna waste your time either. It stings for a second, but then, “Oh look at her!” you find an even hotter girl!

Second, women who are into you usually lean in more quickly because the interaction actually feels flirtatious instead of purely social. And so you end up saving time also there!

You’re already doing the hardest part (approaching and opening). Adding a bit more flirtation, teasing, and tension after the opener would probably make your interactions feel more sexy and less like networking.

Overall though, solid progress. Keep stacking reps.

 

[Francis]

A slow, intense direct approach, delivered with a nice buildup of anticipation that erupts with a targeted compliment, and given from a high-value, powerful, calibrated (almost contained) and non-needy frame never fails---even if the girl ends up rejecting you. It strengthens your inner frame too.

ughhh...

lol I definitely trust you on this... I mean... there's a lot of lay reports with this kind of thing. Will give it a try... I still want to ask a total stunner to hold my water bottle while I tie my shoes or something lol. I guess it's fear of rejection? Cause it could go like "hi! I saw you walking over there and just-" her: "not interested"... when maybe easing into compliance could have avoided it.

Ever since I read the Venusian Arts Handbook, I can't see why you'd show interest in her before she does, unless it's unavoidable (like on sidewalks... hence asking for the time is not simply an approach anxiety thing).

polarization into the interaction earlier. Not necessarily just with words, but also with body language

introduce a bit of personality, teasing, or playful friction, you tend to get clearer reactions faster. And you want that, cuz then you can also gauge faster if it’s time to escalate or bounce

Make observations about her

Then find creative ways to either romanticize it, or sexualize it, with some future projections with you and her against the world

If she says the wrong thing, mock push her away

the magic of push pull.

Adding a bit more flirtation, teasing, and tension after the opener would probably make your interactions feel more sexy and less like networking

THANK YOU!

Make the ho say no, right?

I used to go on whole dates without a sexual frame. I am definitely going to try this. The part that's missing in the reports is how I'm looking at her deep into her eyes like she has no idea how much she's going to like what is in store for her.

So yeah, definitely some more escalating pressure, stress testing her compliance with a sexual frame. With the barrier of meeting out in the world, it feels like a recipe for some sexual tension.

We'll see how it goes. I'd really like to get it to a point where there is nothing she can possibly reject (primarily in terms of words), but rapid micro physical escalation sounds like the ticket. If polarization is feeling out her present compliance level, maybe I can still find ways to pace and lead that rather than have it be a swipe on her and hoping for a match.

Maybe it's a little early career to be trying to hack day game into an indirect model (female-to-male F2M before M2F interest).

Direct day game just seems to be lacking a little... mystery.

 

[Francis]

delivered with a nice buildup of anticipation that erupts with a targeted compliment

gotta remember this

power in the pauses

 

[Francis]

Yes, really focus on remembering to do that lingering handshake for longer. Do it while standing lip-bitingly close to her, or looking her into her eyes like that — but you’re not doing anything yet, cuz you need to see where she stands too

 

[Francis]

Come on guys, post some reports...

I wouldn't be adding random updates otherwise lol

***

Her: I have a work group dinner tonight that I tried to get out of, but couldn't.

[...]

Me: Open book... when you say no date in [>10] years... When we touched fingers passing the phone, was that your first brush of skin contact besides shaking hands

Her: 100%
Was it somehow obvious??

***

So she sent me like a full page text about herself. I didn't reciprocate and just tried to get her to meet up in person. She couldn't find anything online about me and got scared lol

Bye bye birdie