''Heightflation'' and height-ism

[Will_V]

thats still within her frame though and is approval seeking isnt it? i found an old post on this site before posting mine, and op mentioned doing this exact thing ''those inches went somewhere else if you know what i mean'' but according to him it didnt give him results and was brushed off, i personally would go with just a bland ''noted.'' or ''okay.'' and stop initiating. or ''then we're not compatible'' or ''not trying to be enough for you/didnt ask you to like it'', maybe ''take it or leave it''

where's the cope?

Did you read the articles on the site about passing tests?

Justifying yourself is a no no.

Beating her to the rejection is a no no.

Being reactive in general is a no no.

Here's another one you could use:

Tactics Tuesdays: Agree & Amplify to Beat Girls' Tests

When women hit you with a double bind, here’s one easy way out of that: agree with what they say, then amplify it to the point of comical absurdity. It’s time to talk about an old classic of test vanquishing: agree & amplify. Agree and amplify is a simple technique you can use to get out of any...

www.girlschase.com

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

i just saw an interview with "Neil Strauss" who is short 5 7 or so, he said he had this insecurity and then he started to realize that women were looking not for height, but for what height conveys which is "protection and security"...

makes sense, cause every time i ask this subject to women matches what they say in womanize...

for example he said "money" conveys hard work/competence etc....

Anyways, all this height post is cope posts...

Was that the video I posted up somewhere?
Good video , he defs understand things re High Status markers etc

buttt… he is a little deluding himself or trying to delude (or something).. It’s not quite the real world that explanation.

In reality , a fair high % of Tall chicks just will NOT roll with shorter guys. Unless the guy compensates his looks value with bigger Cash& Status value to even ou scales.

like, this can be observed IRL everywhere.
And it’s all over online dating ,Hinge especially (the most popular app)

Example “My Green Flags : Tall Men make me swoon. “ blah blah.
Very obvious on Hinge it’s all over the place,

btw why did you put “Neil Strauss” in commas ..(?) pretty sure that’s his actual name haha jk

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

thats still within her frame though and is approval seeking isnt it? i found an old post on this site before posting mine, and op mentioned doing this exact thing ''those inches went somewhere else if you know what i mean'' but according to him it didnt give him results and was brushed off, i personally would go with just a bland ''noted.'' or ''okay.'' and stop initiating. or ''then we're not compatible'' or ''not trying to be enough for you/didnt ask you to like it'', maybe ''take it or leave it''

where's the cope?

See my post above #22 also.

to me it’s more of a negotiation (or possibly sleight of hand) type frame interaction.
Btw I’ve only pulled this off occasionally (cos see reasons above post #22)

I like using frames for analysis so to crossover to @Will_V s reply.

Agree with
justifying yourself frame = no no
Beating her to the rejection = no no

denying you’re short = (?) probably wont work (?) but maybe if u can roll on quick with something great after this

Agreeing and amplifying / absurdifying = hmmm example
“ yeah ! And im not just short ..I’m a HOBBIT ! I cast for Frodo in Lord Of The Rings… LOLZ.”
yeah dunno.. that’s kinda also magnifying .
But if it’s really really witty and funny then you add ‘Witty AF’ to your ‘balance scales’ of Value. Perhaps

so that kinda just leaves
Negotiation of Value frame - ie I have a big cock / I can provide better sex value.

negotiation and win/win collab frames can be powerful.

What other options may there be ?
From verbal self defence there is only perhaps ‘Parallelism’

not sure how that’d work
Roughly , Parallelism is something like

She says your too short
You say she’s too Y (flat chested perhaps)

that may start a Neg War.. which there is a % chance of winning actually, if you win you’ll get respect at least .. and perhaps Dominance /Alpha value in her eyes.

 

[SpikeSpiegel]

Did you read the articles on the site about passing tests?

Justifying yourself is a no no.

Beating her to the rejection is a no no.

Being reactive in general is a no no.

Here's another one you could use:

Tactics Tuesdays: Agree & Amplify to Beat Girls' Tests

When women hit you with a double bind, here’s one easy way out of that: agree with what they say, then amplify it to the point of comical absurdity. It’s time to talk about an old classic of test vanquishing: agree & amplify. Agree and amplify is a simple technique you can use to get out of any...

www.girlschase.com

I did.

how would you personally respond to a height shit test? example she telll you ''5'10 is not enough ....''

 

[Conquistador]

how would you personally respond to a height shit test? example she telll you ''5'10 is not enough ....''

In your place I would flip the script lightly.

If she’s 5’3” what right does she have to shit on your height

If she is 5’10” or above she probably isn’t gonna be doing this at all.

 

[Kshatrap A.V.]

Who was it on this forum who said that PUA is exception to the rule?

 

[Will_V]

I did.

So what did you learn?

how would you personally respond to a height shit test? example she telll you ''5'10 is not enough ....''

Depends on the girl, her type of attitude, and where I think it's coming from.

First I'd go "Enough for what?" (too easy of an opportunity to get the ball rolling).

If I thought she liked me but was just giving me some attitude, then whatever she responds with, I'd make a joke of it, maybe agree and amplify like the article.

"Yeah I'm a midget, if we got together I'd have to ask you to get things from the top shelf" (if she's shorter than me).

If she was let's say a tall girl and used to guys taking her height seriously, I'd tease her about it. "Look at you you're one of the Amazons the greeks told us about, is it true what they say about you" and just talk shit and have fun.

 

[MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla]

or height inflation, Feels like height has become more important than usual in dating over the past few years, anyone else noticed that?

i also for the first time in my life got shit for my height recently too (she said 5'10 isnt enough, i treated it as a shit test)


what's the optimal way to react to being told your height isnt enough? agree and amplify? tell her to deal with it? tell her we're not a match/she's free to leave and bail?

I’m 6 foot and I’ve only ever ran into the issue once but the girl was trying to neg me and my frame is tough to shake now adays cause I’m not as outcome dependent. *[Lately I’ve also been more into my personal vices]

- Misdirection; While not height I usually am pretty much heavily into looks. Was talking to a girl who when I showed her a picture of a porcelain dog she had said it was ugly, which I then was like. “Oh if you think that’s ugly wait until you see this picture” *[I showed her a picture of a Fugler ] and carried on the conversation about that.

If you go down this route, *[And it is canned] for whatever device you use should keep it on a fast file. Super unattractive to be on your phone searching for stuff so I have it under my favorites bar or on my private for Snapchat.

- DHV or Neg; Either or. Depends on what the situation is but for the DHV freeze her out a little bit and work the room. Go outside and smoke *[Or vape] For a Neg you have an entire wheel house.

In reality , a fair high % of Tall chicks just will NOT roll with shorter guys. Unless the guy compensates his looks value with bigger Cash& Status value to even ou scales.

Look if you stay at the game for a long time you’ll quickly find out that women say one thing and tend to do another. One of life’s weirdest things is people usually will tell you how to get with em through conversation.

Women just say that because of social ostracism. I mean I know two fairly smoking hot women in a throuple? With a short guy doing bdsm.

Yes it’s nice to have good odds, but it would then make better sense to go to countries with a higher ratio of women then to be focused on what the collective of tall women from extrapolated data wanted.

I did.

how would you personally respond to a height shit test? example she telll you ''5'10 is not enough ....''

You sound like old Chinese parents when there kid gets a B. Ah B, that reminds me we should get some more booze.

 

[Skills]

Was that the video I posted up somewhere?
Good video , he defs understand things re High Status markers etc

buttt… he is a little deluding himself or trying to delude (or something).. It’s not quite the real world that explanation.

In reality , a fair high % of Tall chicks just will NOT roll with shorter guys. Unless the guy compensates his looks value with bigger Cash& Status value to even ou scales.

like, this can be observed IRL everywhere.
And it’s all over online dating ,Hinge especially (the most popular app)

Example “My Green Flags : Tall Men make me swoon. “ blah blah.
Very obvious on Hinge it’s all over the place,

btw why did you put “Neil Strauss” in commas ..(?) pretty sure that’s his actual name haha jk

I already explained how my short wing primo met a girl that told me he is too short...to then go do 3 somes with him and get onitis... Neil is taking from act experience as a short guy...

 

[Bill]

I talked to a infield daygame coach and he said he doesn’t notice any difference in his students results based on height while he’s training them. He’s not one of those ”looks don’t matter“ people and actually will tell guys if he thinks they have issues that will stop them from getting better or if he thinks their goals are unrealistic so I don’t think he’s lying.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

Honestly,
From my experience of pickup, bars and clubs and relationships etc etc

the only short guys that roll with taller Hot women .. are BadBoy types.

where the women are trading their looks for the guys perceived value of
(a) his potential of better / more dominant sex experiences
(b) his Bad Boy nature/ looks/ alphaness and thrills n drama associated
(c) his access to drugs , which they are fond of,
-(d) his Money , - ie stacks of hard cash from his crim activities

And probably by extension, the BDSM Dom guys.
Mainly being his potential of wicked and deviant sexual experiences.

I have really seen many other expamples of this scenario

 

[Kshatrap A.V.]

people tell her she has ''tall girl energy''

What a girly thing to say. Lol

 

[SpikeSpiegel]

the only short guys that roll with taller Hot women .. are BadBoy types.

i attest to that ive seen that with my own eyes, and my tall ex taller than me was submissive and liked how ballsy i was with her

In your place I would flip the script lightly.

If she’s 5’3” what right does she have to shit on your height

If she is 5’10” or above she probably isn’t gonna be doing this at all.

yea i did end up doing that in the moment, flipped it on her asked for her height, she said 5'4, told her she's tiny she started defending herself and said she's average not tiny and that people tell her she has ''tall girl energy''

 

[Conquistador]

i attest to that ive seen that with my own eyes, and my tall ex taller than me was submissive and liked how ballsy i was with her

For sure

that people tell her she has ''tall girl energy''

XD

what people call tall girl energy is not actual tall girl energy. If anything it’s the feminine equivalent of short guy with bde examples: natalie portman, lady gaga