Honesty Frame

Velasco

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Here's a nice tactic I used last night (I've probably used this while I was drunk before, but this time I was aware I was using it) to get the conservation to sex. And helped me lay this milf that initially wasn't in to me (physically yes she thought I was cute (as most women do lol) but as a young guy, talking to a girl that only wants to fuck guys that are around her age or older, you are facing an uphill battle. as most of you young guys know. Once the chick asks for your age, and its way younger that the type of dude she goes for, you get dismissed immediately (yes the solution is to go for young girls, but I wanted to fuck this girl. Soooo) I've coined this the honesty frame.

This tactic is similar to something Alek has written about before on GC where you "present a subject, make her aware you’re about to deliver the juice, and warn her that explicit content is coming"

https://www.girlschase.com/content/explicit-content-how-sexualize-conversations-minimal-resistance


So with mine, what you do, is before going into your explicit stuff (as some of you may have noticed, I'm a big fan of the BEFORE of a tactic, being that one of my favorite books on human psychology is Cialdini's PRE-Suasion) you say something alone of "listen to me I only care about honesty. Don't give me bullshit ok. Shake hands or whatever (even pinky promise) just something to show she's "signed the contract and agreed to the terms and conditions of said contract"

So the nice thing about this is that...what girl doesn't want to be honest and have an honest conversation? Nobody lol. So literally everyone will agree with you. And that's how they fall into the trap without even realizing it. (cue diabolical laughter)

Now that you've got agreement from her that she is willing to be totally honest with you (she will tell me the truth about her opinions, her situation or whatever)
you can go into your sexual frames without any resistance just like Alek's tactic. Only here I'm asking her sexual questions for investment, instead of giving her a heads up the gambit I'm about to run on her is super sexual.

you can ask her when's the last time she had sex. how many fuckbuddies she's had. her favorite sex position. and then deep dive her on each of these....man if you saw her face, how she flipped like a pancake as soon as I started talking about this shit...lmao.

another thing I used, as a supplement to this honesty frame, is that I used the stereotype about her age to my advantage. In that what I like about older girls is that they are more honest than young girls because they literally don't give a fuck. They've seen it all, so they see no reason to lie to people or be scared about anything (commitment bias).

alright that's all I got for today. Super short tactic (I tend to just ramble alot about their usefulness lol), but deadly as fuck.
 

Hue

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Older woman in general, I've noticed, love when you cut to the chase sooner. This set up has a dynamic of honesty --> sexual content, and can implicitly be interpreted as "honestly, I just want to fuck".
you can ask her when's the last time she had sex. how many fuckbuddies she's had. her favorite sex position. and then deep dive her on each of these....man if you saw her face, how she flipped like a pancake as soon as I started talking about this shit...lmao.
Then here it also can move through her mind as "are you sexually active? (yes) do you do casual sex? (yes) are you fun in bed?" (yes) (she'd be more inclined to say something exciting than talk about her love for missionary as a way of subtlety qualifying herself).

Easy progression. Great tip!


Hue
 

Velasco

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Used this shit again last night (consciously). along with demonstrated SNL traits as per usual.

Landed an HB8 25 year old with a pornstar like ass-to-waist ratio.

so not exclusive to milfs in case anyone was wondering.
 
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