At this point I dont think there are a lot of girls out of my league but recently I met a girl at a club who is so beautiful. I gamed her like any girl and got her line but that was because I thought she was younger or my age mate. Am 23. The following day we chatted via texts and she gave me her facebook username. When I looked her up on facebook I found out she's working a very nice Job and is atleast 7 years older than me. She looks so young you cant tell because of too much make-up. As you can tell at this point I started feeling like she's out of my league. At the moment I dont work, and still living by mum's place. How can I get this girl besides being younger than her and she earns more than me? Lol
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So, interesting story;
I'm 23 (now) and just hit the 2 year point with my girlfriend who is 33, has her Master's Degree and runs her own business. When I first met her I was 21, full time in school, living with my dad (and still do) and had no job =)
Haha, the situation is going to differ from woman to woman but women around this age are really looking for a provider who is secure. This girl is around 30 so you'll have some wiggle room to show potential BUT you need to keep in mind that women (at any age) want a strong and authentic man. Unless she's in a position where she absolutely needs a provider (which she likely doesn't) then you're still going to have lots of room to make something happen with her.
Best advice; she's just another girl until your dick is inside her. Worry about everything else after you have fucked her because, right now, you're doing nothing but distancing yourself from being able to have anything with her!
-Richard
I'm 23 (now) and just hit the 2 year point with my girlfriend who is 33, has her Master's Degree and runs her own business. When I first met her I was 21, full time in school, living with my dad (and still do) and had no job =)
Haha, the situation is going to differ from woman to woman but women around this age are really looking for a provider who is secure. This girl is around 30 so you'll have some wiggle room to show potential BUT you need to keep in mind that women (at any age) want a strong and authentic man. Unless she's in a position where she absolutely needs a provider (which she likely doesn't) then you're still going to have lots of room to make something happen with her.
Best advice; she's just another girl until your dick is inside her. Worry about everything else after you have fucked her because, right now, you're doing nothing but distancing yourself from being able to have anything with her!
-Richard
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Cassy,
I’m not as good as Richard, but I had gone on dates with girls society considered out of my leagues (a business owner, and an ex-second place beauty pageant, and both of them paid for the date). Here’s my ideas:
- It’s probability: For each girl that was considered above my league, I had probably gone on dates with 5 more girls considered below my league. When you see a man going with a beautiful high status girl, behind the scene, he had been with tons of subpar girls to rack up his experience.
- The concept of a girl who is below/above me is flawed. I might be “above” a girl, but if my dick is not inside hers, it’s useless. Similarly, girls had need. If a girl who is “above” me, as long as I have what her want, she would go along with it. The most important thing is to know what she wants and become it.
- Don’t look her up on Facebook. I use Facebook, mostly to keep contact with friends and family, and you can message on Facebook for free. Basically looking her up on Facebook had 2 disadvantages: a) you put her on pedestal before going on a date; b) if she knew it you will look like a stalker. On the other hand, I didn’t know about a girl’s status (e.g. business owner, beauty pageant) until the middle of date until she said it. And it’s very easy to turn it into something benefits the seduction at that point.
I’m not as good as Richard, but I had gone on dates with girls society considered out of my leagues (a business owner, and an ex-second place beauty pageant, and both of them paid for the date). Here’s my ideas:
- It’s probability: For each girl that was considered above my league, I had probably gone on dates with 5 more girls considered below my league. When you see a man going with a beautiful high status girl, behind the scene, he had been with tons of subpar girls to rack up his experience.
- The concept of a girl who is below/above me is flawed. I might be “above” a girl, but if my dick is not inside hers, it’s useless. Similarly, girls had need. If a girl who is “above” me, as long as I have what her want, she would go along with it. The most important thing is to know what she wants and become it.
- Don’t look her up on Facebook. I use Facebook, mostly to keep contact with friends and family, and you can message on Facebook for free. Basically looking her up on Facebook had 2 disadvantages: a) you put her on pedestal before going on a date; b) if she knew it you will look like a stalker. On the other hand, I didn’t know about a girl’s status (e.g. business owner, beauty pageant) until the middle of date until she said it. And it’s very easy to turn it into something benefits the seduction at that point.
If you cannot get rid of the feeling that she is out of your league, just find something that would bring her in your league. I went on a date with a girl like that and when I found out that she is basically a bookworm and all her social media stuff is basically a job she needs to do because that is how she gets exposure for her business and that she does not enjoy it at all, that she is actually not a social person but an introvert and enjoys being at home drawing or just watching TV far more, I started to feel like she is on the same level as I am. Maybe she was saying it because she has no time for herself to relax but her saying that changed my view on her. So I think a good way to go about this, if you are on the date already and cannot shake that feeling, just emotionally connect with her on something that would humanize her for you.
The only thing I can think that could have made her attracted to me is my tattoo sleeve (maybe?) coz she's so obsessed with fashion and dressing up.
Okay so this is the conversation am just from having with her...
Yesterday night
Me: Hey how was ya day?
Today
Her: Heyy sorry for replying late. My day was great. Hows your day goin?
Me: great! Whats for easter?
Her: No plans yet but am goin for a braii this saturday at joe's house
Me: Oh yeah he invited me for that. Is it goin to be Lit?
Her: I dont know. But am going to be there.
Me: Will see if I'll make it
Her: Okay.
Do you guys think I should go for this party on saturday? I read one article here and it says party dates are a no no. What do u guys think?
Okay so this is the conversation am just from having with her...
Yesterday night
Me: Hey how was ya day?
Today
Her: Heyy sorry for replying late. My day was great. Hows your day goin?
Me: great! Whats for easter?
Her: No plans yet but am goin for a braii this saturday at joe's house
Me: Oh yeah he invited me for that. Is it goin to be Lit?
Her: I dont know. But am going to be there.
Me: Will see if I'll make it
Her: Okay.
Do you guys think I should go for this party on saturday? I read one article here and it says party dates are a no no. What do u guys think?
Going separate to the same event isn't a date.
You both being invited shows you are on equal social footing.
Be social and talk to everyone at the party, heck ask Joe if you can help cook/serve to interact with more people.
Make your time valuable, so she has to compete for your attention. It will make her crave having you to herself.
If the situation presents itsself to isolate her then do that and move towards leaving together OR Make her commit to a solo date later...
You both being invited shows you are on equal social footing.
Be social and talk to everyone at the party, heck ask Joe if you can help cook/serve to interact with more people.
Make your time valuable, so she has to compete for your attention. It will make her crave having you to herself.
If the situation presents itsself to isolate her then do that and move towards leaving together OR Make her commit to a solo date later...
Conversations with my cousin who seemed to attract women because of his silent brooding demeanor...
He talked about how "Every girl on my dorm in college had been Homecoming queen at their High School. All of a sudden they weren't top dog anymore..."
So think about this ....This girl was tops in school with a great social circle, maybe a sorority, and now she lands her first job out of school and while it has a cool title, she still is working her ass off to prove herself to her boss and colleagues. Remember her FB is a highlight real based on PERCEPTION of what she CHOOSES to show. You don't see her trying to cover her car,school,and rent payments. You don't see her feeling isolated on Sunday morning living away from her parents and college friends. You don't hear the self doubt that creeps into her head that she is as good as she portrays. You don't see the insecurity that she has that someone will find out she's not really as cool as she acts.
She gets lonely
She gets nervous
She doubts herself
Don't blatently say you see those flaws but look for their signs. The way she looks around for someone to talk to, her nervous habits like fiddling with her phone or chewing her nails.
Your actions should portray that you understand that and that she can be vulnerable with you (without actually saying it is the trick). Maybe she will say something to get a reaction out of you...When you remain unfazed, or say and show you understand, she lets her guard down a little bit. When she gets nervous around you, don't point it out and make her defensive, That is the time to pay a sincere compliment, not when she is revelling in her own grandeur and adulation of friends ....
Something like
"I really like when I get to see your genuine side. You are a caring and thoughtful person."
Nothing about appearances, nothing about things.....Qualities....
Because YOU are a Quality MAN and you look for those qualities and not the surface. To turn a car metaphor; You make sure the Engine inside is in good shape and it's not just a fancy paint job covering up a lemon.
He talked about how "Every girl on my dorm in college had been Homecoming queen at their High School. All of a sudden they weren't top dog anymore..."
So think about this ....This girl was tops in school with a great social circle, maybe a sorority, and now she lands her first job out of school and while it has a cool title, she still is working her ass off to prove herself to her boss and colleagues. Remember her FB is a highlight real based on PERCEPTION of what she CHOOSES to show. You don't see her trying to cover her car,school,and rent payments. You don't see her feeling isolated on Sunday morning living away from her parents and college friends. You don't hear the self doubt that creeps into her head that she is as good as she portrays. You don't see the insecurity that she has that someone will find out she's not really as cool as she acts.
She gets lonely
She gets nervous
She doubts herself
Don't blatently say you see those flaws but look for their signs. The way she looks around for someone to talk to, her nervous habits like fiddling with her phone or chewing her nails.
Your actions should portray that you understand that and that she can be vulnerable with you (without actually saying it is the trick). Maybe she will say something to get a reaction out of you...When you remain unfazed, or say and show you understand, she lets her guard down a little bit. When she gets nervous around you, don't point it out and make her defensive, That is the time to pay a sincere compliment, not when she is revelling in her own grandeur and adulation of friends ....
Something like
"I really like when I get to see your genuine side. You are a caring and thoughtful person."
Nothing about appearances, nothing about things.....Qualities....
Because YOU are a Quality MAN and you look for those qualities and not the surface. To turn a car metaphor; You make sure the Engine inside is in good shape and it's not just a fancy paint job covering up a lemon.