How to hit on a girl when she is with one/several ugly friends?

[razir110]

Hi all!

Just now on the beach there was a SUPER sexy blonde in her later 40's some 10 meters away from where I was. We stared at each other like 3 times, so I would def approach.. But.. she was with two fat friends, also in their 40's. So I was def interested in the blonde, but DEF not interested in her friends..

So how do I go here? Just come up to the girl I like and say I love her hair or something? So make it obvious from the start what are you doing there and who you are interested in?

It's just that with this approach the attention will be on her and her ugly friends might feel unease, so cockblock danger right there. Plus, how will I deep-dive with her, schedule the date, etc if I have her friends in the conversation or listening to the conversation all the time?

Should I just ignore them kinda or should I approach the entire group? But then what will I say? That they look amazing? They don't! Only the blonde does.

How to act in these situations? And btw, what if the friends aren't ugly? I mean it would be the same scenario anyways, regardless of her girlfriends' looks right?

Best!

 

[Fuck This]

Your best bet is to embrace the whole group and develop rapport with all of them at the outset. You are going to need the friends "approval" to get anywhere in the future.

I encounter this at dances. after developing some banter, I ask the attractive one to dance, and use that isolation time to seed a date, a number what ever....Then I will continue to socialize with the group as a whole...I may dance with the fuglies, but I dance with my target more.

 

[Virgin101]

And btw, what if the friends aren't ugly? I mean it would be the same scenario anyways, regardless of her girlfriends' looks right?

Then why did you need to mention they were fat at all? Couldn't you have just said you weren't interested in them. Body shamer! Or you could distract the fat ones with a cake or something to get them to leave the target.

I'm just messin' with ya! My advice would be, don't get your hopes up, and (ideally) be able to defuse the awkwardness if it ends badly. But don't bother thinking of your awkward ending exit strategy before hand... you'll be able to wing that part. If she was really starring at you because she had the hots for you, then she'd make an effort if you merely walked over and engaged in small talk.

She's in her late 40s ah? How much younger are you than she would've been?

 

[razir110]

Thank you for the replies.

So, we have two different opinions, one saying I should engage the group the other that I can just talk to her.

Honestly I would love if I could just walk up to her and kinda ignore her friends... But then I think there would be a lot of cock block from her friends?.. Plus she would bad for them, etc.. So unfortunately the engaging the whole group seems to be the way to go lol

PS I am like 15 years younger than her Love ladies with charm.. ;D

 

[Michal]

The problem with ignoring her friends is that you show your lack of social awareness and that would make the situation pretty awkward for all of them. This is not a situation where you are the president of Mars, she is the queen of Venus and those other two girls are just her assistants who do not matter because you talk to her about intergalactic defense in context of our solar system (something the assistants have no clue about).
The two ugly friends have most likely lower social status than her, but just like FT said, you need to include them and your best bet is to be social with all of them.

I did this only few times in slightly different situations, last time it was last Thursday. If you want, I can share it here, but I do not want to derail and hijack your thread

 

[razir110]

Hi Michal, yeah sure share it!

Yes, apparently there is no way around it...

It's just that I'm not very confident approaching groups, I'm totally fine with girls alone, but groups are intimidating!

 

[foggy]

Yo dawg, don't ignore the friends!

Something we always forget is that girls are not dumb. The average girl is a lot more socially aware than the average guy. This blonde wanted your dick and I wouldn't doubt it one bit if she was talking about you with her friends. At the very least, her friends probably noticed you guys trading eye contact.

3 sets are actually easier than 2 sets. Assuming you approached and eventually started talking to only the blonde, the two uglies could have talked amongst themselves. With 2 sets, it's different - girl 1 will be standing there awkwardly if you start paying sole attention to girl 2, so you gotta pay attention to her occasionally.

It is really no big deal for friends to listen in on the conversation. Sure, deep diving might be a little weird...but getting her number? scheduling the date? EVERY SINGLE TIME I've started hitting on a girl I liked from a 2-3 set I approached, nothing bad happened. Just think about how much fun they are gonna have talking about it after you leave. Not caring about strangers/friends overhearing is a great skill to develop.

Cockblocking is unlikely - unless you're taking away some serious value. Imagine these girls are tryinga have a fun day at the beach and you come in and try to steal the blonde away from them to go on a date with her. Yeah, I can see that they'd be a little bit unimpressed. Happened to me last summer. I was chatting with 3 girls in a park, and my target was giving me the sparkly eyes. She was only in town for two more hours. When I tried to isolate her, her friends started cockblocking me hard. Poor me got frazzled and left lmfao

The worst that will probably happen is that they will start fighting over you...and that's easily preventable by making your intent clear. When you go up to them, give friendly vibes to the uglies and sexual vibes to the blonde. Once you've established rapport with the group, then you can turn the majority of your attention to the blonde. The uglies might try to keep engaging you, but always make sure to turn your attention back to the blonde.

How do you get a party going with a group of girls/mixed set anyways? Well you can just walk up to them and confidently open the group itself with a poll or something like this:

Holy fuckkkk hey girls! Who is more violent: midgets or hockey players?

Literally anything man...And as long as you're confident and engaging, they'll love you.

One of my favourite questions to ask once they've started investing is:

"How do you guys know each other?"

Hope I answered some of your questions!

 

[Michal]

Hi Michal, yeah sure share it!

Yes, apparently there is no way around it...

It's just that I'm not very confident approaching groups, I'm totally fine with girls alone, but groups are intimidating!

Well, I thought about writing it in a report and link it here but I am never on my computer anymore to format it properly and it would take me like an hour to write it. So in the 10 minutes I have, I will write it roughly
I was going to work in the morning, crossing a small squere where here is a big tower on one side of the squere, where I was heading. This tower is couple hundred years old so tourists take pictures there. It is similar to Arc de Triomphe but there is a regular tower a the top. Anyways, I noticed two girls standing like 8 away from each other, a brunette taking a picture of a blonde one with a tower in the back. The blonde had amazing body so I wanted her really. So I was not sure how to open, I wanted to go direct but I had no idea how given the situation so then gut instinct led me to the brunette and I asked her whether her friend (the blonde) would slap me if I told her she has really sexy legs? And she said something like "well, only one way to find out" the blonde asked something from the distance, so I waved her over to us and the brunette started to ask for her. But I interupted her by putting my arm on her shoulder and told her that I will ask. I asked and added that she is dressed in an elegant fashion, she just smiled so I turned to the brunette, told her yea, no slapping. She said "yea she does not slap people". So I said thats a good thing that she can take a compliment looking at the blonde and then I just asked the blonde whether she is a good friend and takes a picture of the brunette as well to which she said that she does, that she was the one taking the first picture before her friend took hers. Which I then assumed the brunette is more of the leader. So I qualified the blonde one that, dunno what I said really, something with a meaning of "it seems she is able to prioritize other people's needs before her own and that not many people can nowadays" to which she smiled again and then I was just asking them where they are from and why they wanted to visit this country and the city etc. And then we agreed we would meet and I got their number.

Anyway, I think ignoring the friends is just generally a bad idea.