I’m majorly confused with how game works. Stumped on a few principals, plz help.

[Start_ed_young]

I thought, 2 of the main things that were supposed to be good were not seeming to care what they think and being confident enough in yourself to not need them, but. Here’s where my confusion comes in, in the past, from what I read here at least, I had always been too nice and did not approach enough.
However, now that I’ve fixed those things, I’m definitely sending a different message to the girls I’m interested in, it’s even brought me overall, a better reputation at my school, yet I still can’t get the girls because I’m either to nice and indirect (friendzoned I’m pretty sure) or to direct and a bit douchey.
Another point I’d like to make. I have become quite well known in my school this year, yet I don’t have the slightest clue on how to use my social circle to my advantage. Example of something odd, this one girl, I haven’t really exchanged words with her but twice, but she’s good friends with many of my friends from school. She put me on her snap story today (for something good. Btw) yet I tried talking to her some in a group but she sort of dismissed my attempt at conversation.
Alright, sorry my writing probably sounds a bit odd. I was a bit unclear in my question, but to sum it up
1. Where and what is that balance between bad boy and nice guy?
2. How can I use social circle to my advantage and get the girls I like?
3. Is there such thing as drawing too much attention to myself

 

[Smurf]

Re: I’m majorly confused with how game works. Stumped on a few principals, plz h

Hey man,

Good to see some of the principles are making good changes for yourself! Here's a few answers to your questions:

As for balancing being a nice guy and a bad boy, starting out it was far better for me to lean on the edge of being a dick. You learn where you can go and where to stop. Don't go making girls cry, but tease them. Try it out, you'll be surprised at how much you can get away with.

Using social circle is a careful thing. At the same time, you don't get what you don't ask for. Figure out what you want from your social circle and find a way to go about getting it or blatantly asking for it. The key to this is to make sure you do have something you bring to the table to make it a relatively fair value exchange, but make sure you ask or maneuver to get what you want.

Drawing attention, you want to be drawing some kind of attention. Depends on your personality how much, but I don't really think there's such a thing as too much attention. Infamy and fame are still two forms of the same thing in my opinion.

Let me know if I can flesh anything out further and I wish you luck!

Jake.

 

[Start_ed_young]

Re: I’m majorly confused with how game works. Stumped on a few principals, plz h

With the attention thing, the reason I ask is because recently I’ve been drawing a lot of attention to myself, not 100% on purpose. It’s just I’m a funny guy that does crazy shit. For example today is the craziest thing I’ve done at school. I believe about 20 people put me on their snap story. Pretty much, yesterday a teacher that no one likes makes a sarcastic comment asking me why I don’t teach the classs the? You know what I do? I fucking go out buy a suit to look like a teacher. Spend six hours researching, and put together a presentation for class tomorrow that ends up lasting 40 minutes. No one thought I would actually do it, but that’s what I do. Stuff no one would expect or think of. The teacher had literally zero intent for me to take this seriously but I went and did it and walked in like I owned the place.

My concern with this type of attention is the people at my school find me so funny they may find it difficult to take me seriously. Could this be an issue in attracting women? No one hinks of me as a bf candidate

 

[Smurf]

Re: I’m majorly confused with how game works. Stumped on a few principals, plz h

Haha that's pretty funny.

Are you in high school or college?

And yeah, shit like that isn't bad, its just a matter of when to be real and actually connect with people and when to be that crazy guy. Play with it a bit.

 

[Start_ed_young]

Re: I’m majorly confused with how game works. Stumped on a few principals, plz h

Thanks for the advice jake, I’m a freshmen in high school currently. I’ve done two field reports if you think you could help help me more if you seen examples of my struggles with these principles.

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