I Just Had Sex With A Fat Girl (feeling extremely depressed)

[Razorjack]

well there's a few things you should know.

first, the vibe i use to draw girls in is extremelly arrogant and aloof.

it's a vibe that says " i cannot believe i have to be in this club right now with all you losers"

It's a vibe like im almost angry to be there.

that is the vibe that works for me to draw the most and hottest girls to me.

I tell you this because a smile does not really match this vibe.

Great, then use a snear or growl instead of a smile! You just need to get them intrigued!
There are so many ways to do this.

I have thought about doing something like this but never tested it.

Would girls even notice the writing in a dark, packed club?

If it is a black t-shirt with writing in fluorescent letters for example could work. It needs to be bright and stick out.

 

[Razorjack]

no man i assure you that the sexual experiences im looking for at this time in my life can only be found at night.

nothing you mentioned here would satisfy the specific craving i have.

for example, a massive part of my current desires is dancefloor stuff.

i want to do really sexual things like what i described earlier in the middle of the dancefloor with people watching me.

stuff like that is better/more pleasurable to me then even sex from tinder or daygame.

btw, thank you very much for spending time trying to help me.

Im going to go sleep now.

Its 12 PM here so im going to sleep now then wake up and get ready for Saturday night.

I will reply here again when i come back from Saturday.

Ill try what you said about saying hi and keeping it moving as i walk around the club tonight and will report here how it went.

thanks again for your time today.

No worries, man! Just trying to give you examples of how guys I know of have done things. As well as just throwing things out to see what sticks and resonates.

Based on what you said, instead of saying hi, you could try something like looking at them and sneering or growling and continue walking past them.

Yes, I have heard of guys picking up girls and having sex in the nightclubs by just looking at them and growling, going primal caveman / animalistic, without saying a word the entire night.

Experiment with things that are congruent with who you are at the nightclub. So if you are arrogant, aloof and slightly pissed for having to be there with losers ( ) then a growl or sneer (in a semi playful manner)) would work better than a smile and saying hi.

My guess is that girls are afraid to open their mouths after you draw them in for fear of you blowing them out and telling them to fuck off, (they don't know if you're really pissed off or not). In other words, they're afraid of you rejecting them with big drama like you are of them!

So the idea here is that when you're walking around, you build non-verbal rapport without approaching/opening/saying a word etc. So that the girls feel comfortable opening you when you draw them in later. Maybe try experimenting with walking by giving a quick look and a sneer / growl (by showing teeth in a semi playful way) will make them feel more comfortable and less afraid when they approach you later.

 

[Kvothe]

You have a fear. To get over that fear you have two options. You can either face it head on until it’s not scary. So you fear approaching, you can just decide to do it and keep doing it until it’s not as scary.

The other option is to build up to it with smaller steps. Can’t approach a girl? Ask her for the time. Can’t do that? Try making eye contact and holding it. Can’t do that? Try making eye contact with men. Find the easiest thing you can do that isn’t scary until it’s not scary anymore, then increase the difficulty to something harder.

For example, you start with working on eye contact until you can do that, then you talk to the cute bartender and make small talk while getting drinks, then you start making small conversation with girls while in line for the bathroom. So on and so on until you learn to approach.

I give these steps because it seems like you want to learn to approach. If you don’t want that that’s fine, focus on the other things, but this idea of building up to things that are hard for you is how you can get over the fears.

 

[Chrance]

@Razorjack not to derail but someone made a summary of your “semi natural method”. It’s great stuff!

Sweet PUA read “Razorjack‘s “Natural” Method”

Hey guys, This is an awesome little write up written 9 years ago by a guy name razor jack… I’ve been looking through old archives learning about some old school seducers. I think this i…

showyourmind.wordpress.com

I’m not sure if it’s an accurate representation of your views but there’s some gems in there.
I’ve been following your questions with @SexNotValidation and they’ve been helpful.

 

[SexNotValidation]

Yes, I have heard of guys picking up girls and having sex in the nightclubs by just looking at them and growling, going primal caveman / animalistic, without saying a word the entire night.

this is exactly the type of game that i want to learn.

do you know of any resources that teach this type of non verbal caveman game?

Experiment with things that are congruent with who you are at the nightclub. So if you are arrogant, aloof and slightly pissed for having to be there with losers ( ) then a growl or sneer (in a semi playful manner)) would work better than a smile and saying hi.

I've tested all kinds of vibes in the club and yes the one that feels most natural is definitely the supper arrogant aloof vibe.

My guess is that girls are afraid to open their mouths after you draw them in for fear of you blowing them out and telling them to fuck off, (they don't know if you're really pissed off or not). In other words, they're afraid of you rejecting them with big drama like you are of them!

yes this makes sense.

So the idea here is that when you're walking around, you build non-verbal rapport without approaching/opening/saying a word etc. So that the girls feel comfortable opening you when you draw them in later. Maybe try experimenting with walking by giving a quick look and a sneer / growl (by showing teeth in a semi playful way) will make them feel more comfortable and less afraid when they approach you later.

here's what i do not understand.

this reminds me of the people who say "start by asking girls where the washroom is" if you're too scared to approach.

if i was able to walk up to a girl and ask where the washrooms are then i would just open her properly.

asking for the washrooms or opening her properly makes no difference at all; the hard part is the walking up.

so when you say to give a quick look or say something and keep it moving, im guessing if i could do that then i would just open them properly since in order to give the look and keep moving i have to walk up to them and this walking up is the hard part.

Im going to test this next Friday and see if i can do it and let you know.

do you have any suggestions for something else i can do as i keep it moving?

the things you suggested of sneer or growl does not feel right.

I can try just giving a seductive/sexual look and then keep it moving.

 

[SexNotValidation]

You have a fear.

how do you know this?

I always get confused when people try to simplify my situation to basic fear of rejection or anything like that.

if it was this simple would i not have solved this after nearly 7 years?

. Can’t approach a girl? Ask her for the time.

If i could walk up to a girl and ask for the time then i would not have this problem.

in order to ask for the time you need to approach the girl.

approaching the girl is the problem NOT what comes out of my mouth after i have already approached her.

Can’t do that? Try making eye contact and holding it.

dude do you actually do any nightgame?

if yes, when you walk around the club you notice all the girls just looking at you?

in order to make eye contact the girl needs to be also looking at you.

I do not check to see if anyone is looking at me when i walk around the club so maybe thats why i dont get what you mean.

Can’t do that? Try making eye contact with men.

again, i dont get what you mean here.

maybe its because i dont really look at anyone in the club,.

but for eye contact to happen the other party needs to also be looking at you.

why would random guys in the club be looking at me?

 

[MarkA]

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do you know of any resources that teach this type of non verbal caveman game?

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Sounds like you should learn Gunwitch Method as it is very animalistic, sexually aggressive and relatively straightforward. 60 years of challenge talks about this too in a systematic manner.

 

[Mr.Rob]

The other boys give some good advice.

I'd def consider coaching if you feel stuck in a rut.

Other than that it's just chime in and say that I've banged the odd fatty here and there in my day. It's good for your self esteem. Rounds you out a bit. Just cuz you bang a fatty doesn't define your self worth or what your capable of.

Sex is sex. Just don't settle for a fatty. Do that and your in trouble.

 

[SexNotValidation]

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do you know of any resources that teach this type of non verbal caveman game?

Sounds like you should learn Gunwitch Method as it is very animalistic, sexually aggressive and relatively straightforward. 60 years of challenge talks about this too in a systematic manner.
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I first studied 60 yoc stuff all the way back in 2014 and have been aware of gunwitch and bought all his stuff in 2015 or so.

60 yoc and gunwitch 1 definitely feel more natural to me then most systems but still not exactly caveman game since both systems require talking.

razorjack says he knows guys who are fucking the girls IN the club without any talking at all; that is my ideal.

also, none of this really matters since i cannot approach.

but once i can approach i definitely prefer a non verbal system as my style.

 

[SexNotValidation]

The other boys give some good advice.

I'd def consider coaching if you feel stuck in a rut.

Other than that it's just chime in and say that I've banged the odd fatty here and there in my day. It's good for your self esteem. Rounds you out a bit. Just cuz you bang a fatty doesn't define your self worth or what your capable of.

Sex is sex. Just don't settle for a fatty. Do that and your in trouble.

did you miss the part where i said i have already paid for coaching from dozens of people including 3 people on this forum?

 

[Mr.Rob]

did you miss the part where i said i have already paid for coaching from dozens of people including 3 people on this forum?

Oh interesting, yeah I didn't see that. Kinda just read the OP and a few comments from the other guys.

Hmm. Wow coaching from +12 different guys and no one was able to pinpoint where things were going wrong for you?