Improving & where to go next

[totalnewb]

Hey everyone, just looking for some input from more experienced members into my situation.

I just started pick up after a long stretch (~5 years or so). And things been going.. Less than ideal.

So far I've got 41 approaches with 4 numbers - all ignored. I know these are low considering daygame success rates, however, feels like I could do better, considering everything else.

What is the single most impactful change one could add to improve their chances?

My approach is something like this, just to give you an idea:

- Hey, excuse me - you're very pretty, what's your name?
- xxx
- I'm xxx, nice to meet you. Are you new around here? I've never seen you before.
- I'm not/I am...
- You look like u study xxx/Are you from around here...
- Yes/no, I study this (and go from there)
- Anyway, I have to go, but we should go for lunch sometime - let me grab your phone number.
(at this point she says have bf or not interested, or gives a #)
- the end.

Any help APPRECIATED!!!

 

[totalnewb]

Today - 7 approaches - 2 bfs, 2 "no thank yous", 1 kinda number, but pretty sure she isn't responding.

Felt that approaches were solid, I kept my frame, spoke clearly/slowed down.

What else can I do?..

 

[OldGuy]

1. No excuse me, and I just use Hello or Hi. If she gives more than a simple Hi back, then start a conversation.
2. You are looking for emotions. for example, ask her how she feels about the weather (colder, hotter, rainy, etc.)
3 If she continues to respond, ask her about her life (the emotions, not just the facts).
4. Lunch is too much, ask her for coffee, tea, ice cream if summer.
5. If she is interested, then try to set date and time (right now is best).
6. Not tested, but if she says bf, try "I am very discrete". She may just want to be able to try you out, but if you don't work out, keep her bf.

 

[totalnewb]

Thanks for the response! All good points and I'll see how can use this for my approaches.

Thing about 1 is - most girls wear headphones so I'm just making sure I get their attention before I actually talk to them. Hey, excuse me, sorry - it's just enough to deal with that.

6 is very interesting too - I'll have to try it out, but they all seem want to be very loyal. Maybe I just haven't met the right one. lol

I already started being more specific around date times - and one of my asks is if she's available now, if not, when. Gotta be specific!

1. No excuse me, and I just use Hello or Hi. If she gives more than a simple Hi back, then start a conversation.
2. You are looking for emotions. for example, ask her how she feels about the weather (colder, hotter, rainy, etc.)
3 If she continues to respond, ask her about her life (the emotions, not just the facts).
4. Lunch is too much, ask her for coffee, tea, ice cream if summer.
5. If she is interested, then try to set date and time (right now is best).
6. Not tested, but if she says bf, try "I am very discrete". She may just want to be able to try you out, but if you don't work out, keep her bf.

 

[OldGuy]

6 is a "Hail Mary" ploy when otherwise nothing will happen. Use with low volume and secretive tone.

 

[totalnewb]

Did 1 approach today, since she said she had a "bf" issue, I followed up with #6.
My delivery must have been off - it didn't quite land, as in no reaction whatsoever.

6 is a "Hail Mary" ploy when otherwise nothing will happen. Use with low volume and secretive tone.

 

[totalnewb]

Today - 1 approach.

It was bad, "throwaway" but I wish it wasn't. She was 9/10 but clearly absolutely 0 interest. I really need to work on hooking them emotionally. I'm REALLY bad at that.

If anyone have any thoughts/tips - you are very welcome to share.

 

[Skater]

More detailed field report would help you get more help.

 

[Arnav]

Today - 1 approach.

It was bad, "throwaway" but I wish it wasn't. She was 9/10 but clearly absolutely 0 interest. I really need to work on hooking them emotionally. I'm REALLY bad at that.

If anyone have any thoughts/tips - you are very welcome to share.

ome thing i reqlized after a lot of approaches was that how big of an impact yoir tonality and speech rythm matter, I saw some field vids on the intenret and couldnt understand hiw girls were responding so well to sich a basic approach, it was motly becuase the guy had a very pleasing tonality and a social rythm in his speech, i started addi g thise in my approaches and the receptions improved

 

[totalnewb]

Interesting - do you have any resources on this? I'm not sure I wouldn't be able to adjust my speech style - it's very personal.

ome thing i reqlized after a lot of approaches was that how big of an impact yoir tonality and speech rythm matter, I saw some field vids on the intenret and couldnt understand hiw girls were responding so well to sich a basic approach, it was motly becuase the guy had a very pleasing tonality and a social rythm in his speech, i started addi g thise in my approaches and the receptions improved

 

[totalnewb]

Well, I'm not exactly sure what could I add more. I might try remembering a convo next time and post here. But they usually go as I posted an example in the initial post.

More detailed field report would help you get more help.

 

[totalnewb]

I think my problem is poor rapport as in I'm trying to close too fast - I might try working on that next. But previously I had convos sizzle out so I need to avoid that.

Tbh at this point I don't even know what I'm doing wrong, and just approaching (which is ok), but I really could use some results SOON...

 

[Jamster]

- Hey, excuse me - you're very pretty, what's your name?

Perhaps instead of saying "you're very pretty," you could say something specific (or specific sounding) to her. Maybe peripherally about her looks, but not judging her looks.

- "You have" a great smile | a friendly vibe | a carefree look | nice eyes

[or slightly more sexual]
a graceful walk | such a feminine look |

[or something about the way she dresses, when you are referring indirectly to body parts]

Great fitting jeans | Eye-catching blouse | daring bikini (caution) | colorful T-shirt
trans : Great Ass | nice boobs, babe! \ Hot bod | I can see the shape of your nipples.

Be honest. Be direct. But use euphemisms.

Anything that says " I want to know YOU," instead of "You're a pretty THING."

I like most of the rest of it. It seems you understand a question is best expressed as a cold read.

"You look like you ..." instead of "Are you ..."

Any help APPRECIATED!!!

When you say "any" you are opening yourself up to KJing like this!

.

 

[Arnav]

Interesting - do you have any resources on this? I'm not sure I wouldn't be able to adjust my speech style - it's very personal.

Yeah here is an example - bald indian guy, but has very warm tonality and social rythm in speech.

 

[Style jr]

Olá a todos, gostaria de pedir a opinião de membros mais experientes sobre a minha situação.

Comecei a paquerar recentemente depois de um longo período (uns 5 anos, mais ou menos). E as coisas não estão indo muito bem.

Até agora, recebi 41 abordagens com 4 números de telefone — todas ignoradas. Sei que esses números são baixos considerando as taxas de sucesso do daygame, mas sinto que poderia me sair melhor, levando tudo em conta.

Qual é a mudança mais impactante que alguém poderia implementar para melhorar suas chances?

Minha abordagem é mais ou menos assim, só para você ter uma ideia:

- Ei, com licença, você é muito bonita, qual é o seu nome?
- xxx
— Sou xxx, prazer em conhecê-lo(a). Você é novo(a) por aqui? Nunca te vi antes.
- Eu não sou/Eu sou...
Você parece estudar xxx/Você é daqui perto...?
- Sim/não, eu estudo isso (e a partir daí decido o que fazer)
— Enfim, preciso ir, mas a gente podia almoçar junto qualquer dia desses — me passa seu número de telefone.
(Nesse ponto, ela diz que tem namorado ou que não está interessada, ou dá um número de telefone)
- o fim.

Qualquer ajuda será muito apreciada!!!

Opa eai irmão, não sou o melhor do mundo,mas sempre que abordo eu pesso o insta e é bem mais facil doq o número,se a mina postar story da pra responder e etc. Numero deixa pra familia, etc.

 

[Style jr]

Opa eai irmão, não sou o melhor do mundo,mas sempre que abordo eu peço o insta e é bem mais fácil doq o número,se a mina postar story da pra responder e etc.

 

[totalnewb]

I'd love to come up with anything "specific" on the spot - but I can't. It's enough for me just doing the approaching and need to rely on something stable like with at least initial couple of lines.

I do agree this would be the way to go, tho and may have to think about what I can do here. Perhaps there's something generic I can use that's still specific sounding.

When you say "any" you are opening yourself up to KJing like this!

Haha, keep em coming - I'm just wondering if there's anything fundamental I can change to get the basic traction going.

Perhaps instead of saying "you're very pretty," you could say something specific (or specific sounding) to her. Maybe peripherally about her looks, but not judging her looks.

- "You have" a great smile | a friendly vibe | a carefree look | nice eyes

[or slightly more sexual]
a graceful walk | such a feminine look |

[or something about the way she dresses, when you are referring indirectly to body parts]

Great fitting jeans | Eye-catching blouse | daring bikini (caution) | colorful T-shirt
trans : Great Ass | nice boobs, babe! \ Hot bod | I can see the shape of your nipples.

Be honest. Be direct. But use euphemisms.

Anything that says " I want to know YOU," instead of "You're a pretty THING."

I like most of the rest of it. It seems you understand a question is best expressed as a cold read.

"You look like you ..." instead of "Are you ..."






When you say "any" you are opening yourself up to KJing like this!

.