Is bodygame real? How much does an aesthetic physique contribute to getting laid?

[alexhunter8]

Recently I have been coming across lots of youtube videos of men( especially " Southpawhuncho, Austindunham, BasedCBO youtube channels" and strongly recommending bodygame - having a great physique makes women to hit on you , get away with mistakes, women chasing you etc they claim .
1. Is it true?
They claim women literally chase/ give obvious IOIs if u have ideal aesthetic physique and it's no contest.
Studies have proven that naturally athletic physique with moderate muscle and low fat is most attractive to all women.
2. How much does ideal physique matter in getting laid?
3. A man who is out of shape but got great game and confidence vs a man who has great physique but average game , which one is best in getting laid?
( by laid I mean sex from cold approach as well as social circle. )

 

[OldGuy]

Some, but not all that much. Being 50-60 pounds overweight did not cause any real problems. Stolen women from much younger guys in better shape.

 

[Skills]

How many of these posts you are going to make brother...

 

[alexhunter8]

How many of these posts you are going to make brother...

I assure you from this time, I will avoid useless posts as much as possible.
But the only thing that made me to post this is because if we all can see , there are tons of posts on youtube by many POPULAR MENs INFLUENCERs about body game .
I seriously posted it as a person who is inexperienced and too naive .
And the other side there are some gamers who claim physique doesn't matter.
So I'm bit on the edge between lots of conflicting information.
So you mean to say physique doesn't matter ?

 

[James D]

So I'm bit on the edge between lots of conflicting information.

You do sound like a very conflicted individual.

You're wasting your time with all of that useless thinking dude.

Try this new rule:

No new posts until you've approached 100 girls following this simple pattern:

-Open
-Get a small conversation going
-Tease her a couple times
-Suggest you two get coffee sometime
-She says yes and you grab her number

The number (or God forbid, her IG) is not a goal in itself.

It's the next logical step after she agrees to a date.

Not every girl you open will talk to you...

Not every girl you open will agree to meet up...

And not every girl who hands out her number will reply back.

But that's okay. Part of the process.

More importantly, it'll get you out of this crazy mental turmoil you're in where you ask the same thing over and over while juggling so much information.

Your posts are getting draining.

You really should get out of your head buddy.

 

[Arnav]

Recently I have been coming across lots of youtube videos of men( especially " Southpawhuncho, Austindunham, BasedCBO youtube channels" and strongly recommending bodygame - having a great physique makes women to hit on you , get away with mistakes, women chasing you etc they claim .
1. Is it true?
They claim women literally chase/ give obvious IOIs if u have ideal aesthetic physique and it's no contest.
Studies have proven that naturally athletic physique with moderate muscle and low fat is most attractive to all women.
2. How much does ideal physique matter in getting laid?
3. A man who is out of shape but got great game and confidence vs a man who has great physique but average game , which one is best in getting laid?
( by laid I mean sex from cold approach as well as social circle. )

There isn't anything called bodygame. There is game and there is fundamentals.
Your lack of results or rejections are exagerating your insecurities. You don't need to be worrying about those things.

Early on when I was getting rejections, I would be dejected and my mind would reflex to thoughts that i wasn't good looking enough or I had to work on my physique but it was the wrong direction.

Eventually I started getting much better reception and attraction from girls and it was from improving my posture, fashion and vibe while approaching.

As I started approaching, opening with energy, more confidence, ease and calmness. Not rushing my speech and conversing with girls with enthusiasm & interest my open rates increased.

My physique actually worsened , I lost quite a bit of weight and was much skinner but no real effect on my results, they only improved as my vibe and confidence improved.

Make more approaches, identify your mistakes and then don't repeat them.
Thats the right way.

 

[Skills]

I assure you from this time, I will avoid useless posts as much as possible.
But the only thing that made me to post this is because if we all can see , there are tons of posts on youtube by many POPULAR MENs INFLUENCERs about body game .
I seriously posted it as a person who is inexperienced and too naive .
And the other side there are some gamers who claim physique doesn't matter.
So I'm bit on the edge between lots of conflicting information.
So you mean to say physique doesn't matter ?

A lot of those youtubers are pitching "they have the answer"(they make money capitalizing on male insecurities and lack of understanding).... the guy that is closest to understanding body game is kinobody (my opinion), the physique he promotes is right now what is popular (slender/athletic).... In my opinion after certain amount of fitness, not a ballom face, no belly, some muscle(not too much), lower body fat over muscle (west context, in some parts of the words fitness is low in the scale)..... You will be fine, I also put fashion in front of body game if you meet my previous requirements... I linked you the chase fundamental post already, here is it is again, and then you can see this is the best post on fitness as it relates to seduction there is:

Best explanation I have ever found on looks matter theory (featuring Alex Novy from Sleazy forum) - The Skills Method

Hey guys, one of the best explanations on looks theory I have ever seen... The looks matter stuff is all over the place but this explanation is very clear and practical, it is by one of the top dudes on Sleazy forum (anti game forum), but is pretty good, so here is by Alex Novy:

www.theskillsmethod.com

 

[mirror]

Recently I have been coming across lots of youtube videos of men( especially " Southpawhuncho, Austindunham, BasedCBO youtube channels" and strongly recommending bodygame - having a great physique makes women to hit on you , get away with mistakes, women chasing you etc they claim .
1. Is it true?
They claim women literally chase/ give obvious IOIs if u have ideal aesthetic physique and it's no contest.
Studies have proven that naturally athletic physique with moderate muscle and low fat is most attractive to all women.
2. How much does ideal physique matter in getting laid?
3. A man who is out of shape but got great game and confidence vs a man who has great physique but average game , which one is best in getting laid?
( by laid I mean sex from cold approach as well as social circle. )

Same as with female selection. For onenightstands the great physique may win out, for long term dating the great game and confidence often wins out. But honestly. Just work both.

 

[alexhunter8]

Some, but not all that much. Being 50-60 pounds overweight did not cause any real problems. Stolen women from much younger guys in better shape.

You mean to say good physique doesn't matter ?
Will it make game easier/ compensate or get away with some mistakes?

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

we all can see , there are tons of posts on youtube by many POPULAR MENs INFLUENCERs about body game .
I seriously posted it as a person who is inexperienced and too naive .
And the other side there are some gamers who claim physique doesn't matter.

Same as canned vs. natural game... golden middle path mah boy.

Of course it helps, so does game, so use both.

Don't rely purely on game and neglect body.
Don't rely purely on body and neglect game.

The biggest advantage is that low bodyfat and high T from the muscle makes your face look a lot more masculine.

 

[JasonH]

A lot of those youtubers are pitching "they have the answer"(they make money capitalizing on male insecurities and lack of understanding).... the guy that is closest to understanding body game is kinobody (my opinion), the physique he promotes is right now what is popular (slender/athletic).... In my opinion after certain amount of fitness, not a ballom face, no belly, some muscle(not too much), lower body fat over muscle (west context, in some parts of the words fitness is low in the scale)..... You will be fine, I also put fashion in front of body game if you meet my previous requirements... I linked you the chase fundamental post already, here is it is again, and then you can see this is the best post on fitness as it relates to seduction there is:

Best explanation I have ever found on looks matter theory (featuring Alex Novy from Sleazy forum) - The Skills Method

Hey guys, one of the best explanations on looks theory I have ever seen... The looks matter stuff is all over the place but this explanation is very clear and practical, it is by one of the top dudes on Sleazy forum (anti game forum), but is pretty good, so here is by Alex Novy:

www.theskillsmethod.com

I’m surprised I missed this. This is a great post you linked!

Curious - why do you say you can get girls within 3 points (eg 5 can get a 7-8). This is very observable and true and my answer to this is because women weight behavior so much more highly (dominance, status, confident expression etc). Just curious on your thoughts.

 

[JasonH]

You mean to say good physique doesn't matter ?
Will it make game easier/ compensate or get away with some mistakes?

Of course it does, it adds to sexiness, especially if you can pair it with aesthetic clothing that suits and fits well.
It’s not a necessity I’ve seen guys with very average physiques do well, average looks do well etc.

Generally - whatever gives you internal permission to express and go after your wants will help you do well. For some it’s fashion, for others its physique, for others it’s game and for others it’s a whole bunch of unnecessary looksmaxxing.