Calls & Texts Is There Something I Just Don't Get?

[POB]

I didn't say no, I just said not initially, wouldn't taking her out to sushi be seen as "provider material?"

Not if you keep your frame.
Just get her out.

Next time, I'll try, also she didn't answer once, not repeatedly.

Dont call them...ever.
It's bad juju.
Ping with minimum investment and wait a day or two.

I'll try to get the FR going for this interaction, however, this happened a week ago, have to remember the general flow of convo, also I have a couple other FR's posted approaching girls in that same area(none as strong interactions however).

Do it next time you go out.
It's good exercise for you too, to be present and mindfull of your technique and sticking points.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

Hey guys, had one of my best interactions(can post an FR on this topic), made her laugh very hard in the beginning, kept talking about lots of topics, career & life plans, travel, etc, with me finding out a lot about her. Took her number when she asked me to do a sushi date, I said “hey we’ll see how much we like each other first, then maybe a sushi date” also told her I binged too much sushi recently(this is true), she agreed to meet up and said “we’ll text”

Sent her an icebreaker text saying “hey future sports agent, nice meeting you today, hope you could lift those 25s” both of those being callback humor to our convo, no response. Shot her a call a few days later, no response or text back.

Is there something really wrong with my text/phone game? This seemed to be one of my stronger interactions, with the girl enthusiastically wanting to continue the conversation, agreeing to meet up, when she would set some frames, I would strike it down with my frame and she would follow along.

I can also post an FR for more context if needed.

Yes possibly.
I’ll guess this from a cold approach on the street .

2. things - if a chick reached out w date proposal of Sushi. I would always say YES.
A chick doing a date proposal towards me is a big move on her side .
there was no need to qualify her re the liking each other.

she basically said “ I like you enough to propose a date - you’re in “ and you replied “No”

So that’d have pissed her off and she likely thought “what? Oh whatever , piss off then” at that point,

that’s the *big one* where you messed up imo.

re all the connecting chat stuff - this is nice but it’s not the main goal in an approach imo, (as you have discovered re over connecting)

my main goal is to make myself irresistible tbh. Ie To present as a very sexy guy.

to flirt , intrigue , and hook her as much as possible, to ensure things flow on to the next phase of the seducfion. And raise her buying temp during the interaction to give the best odds she’ll follow up.

The connecting stuff re career, life plans, travel..yada yada.. doesn’t really cause all of the above to happen unfortunately
So yeah 2 things.

-Over connecting is no good,
- turning down her date proposal is also no good

my 2c. Jim.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

Follow on to this above reply #22 (as I’ve had to go through this pain period of learning again these last few years )

the problem w the connecting stuff I found was this.
I thought having similarities and commonalities would lead to a date.
Thinking “ look at our connections- we are the same - we have the similar cool interests” was the basis to establish firstly.

but it is not the right approach. (That bit comes later .)

the woman wants to feel things firstly.
She wants to feel a dynamic .

and that dynamic is (from the womans pov)


-this guy is a very sexy man.
-He is slightly above me .
-He has other women interested in him.
-He is a bit of a bastard also.
-I will pursue him and win him over,

that’s basically a seduction from a womans pov,

So try set up that dynamic for her and make it nice and tasty for her .. would be my advice to you.

everything will turn around after that ig you focus on the above fhings and the above dynamic.

Coaches like Bobby Rio ,Rob judge and Zack Bauer have a good understanding of this and can teach it. Their course “Unlock Her Legs” Is a pretty good course for learning.

Zack Bauer has a great seminar on street cold approach / DayGaming re this also imo,

Jim.