Is this a lost cause?

[Charlie]

This girl is a genuine 10. We were in the same year at school 15 years ago, but didn't know each other well and I hadn't seen her since. Over the last couple of years we have both liked the odd photo on each other's social media. Then a couple of weeks ago she posted a picture of herself at a festival on Instagram. I commented saying I was going to the same festival the next day. She took the opportunity to slide into my DMs, we started talking and I arranged a date for the Friday.

For the date, she came all the way from West to East London where I live. We both had the day off work so met in the afternoon for a few drinks and table tennis. I thought the date itself went really well - the conversation flowed, she was laughing all the way through and we kissed a few times at the end. She had dinner plans with some friends so I didn't try to get her back to mine.

I texted her the next day saying I'd had fun and we should do it again and she agreed. We exchanged a couple of playful texts. A couple of days later I texted her saying I was busy Saturday but asked if she was free Friday or Sunday. She said it was her grandparents' anniversary and they were over from Canada, so she had a lot of family stuff going on (I knew this was happening before we went on the date). She said she'll let me know if anything changes and 'if not it will probably have to be when I'm back from Ibiza now' as she had a girls holiday planned for the week after. I said 'Ok cool well let me know' (I realise this was a mistake and I shouldn't have accommodated this 'up in the air' plan). She never did let me know about Friday or Sunday, and I wasn't expecting her to tbh.

We exchanged a couple more playful texts over the next couple of days during which she asked me a couple of questions and sounded keen to talk. The last text was hers and it was 5 days ago. I decided to pull back as she didn't make a definite 2nd date and so far I'm the only one who's initiated contact.

Should I continue not contacting her and see if she gets in touch? Or is it worth being a bit persistent and trying again?

 

[Fuck This]

Open ended low investment reconnecting text.

"So how was Ibiza?"

If she responds refer back to some conversation points from before. Work common points to stimulate conversation. Oh I had a great time when I went to Spain! Did you see...Etc...?

 

[razir110]

Did you know about her plans for dinner that night in advance? If you know she has plans for later, never meet a girl like this for a first date. She has to be free for the rest of the day.

I like to schedule dates after dinner, so she can't have any other plans after the date. The earliest I schedule for is 17h, so she doesn't schedule anything for later and if she does, she will tell me in advance while we are still arranging the time, so I just reschedule for another day then. It's a huge logistical issue if she has plans for after the date, if she is really into you she can just cancel them on short notice, but usually it would be very short notice and she may be meeting someone who she can't just flake on.

Another detail is avoid kissing her before taking her to your place. Invite her home then at your place go for the kiss and sex.

About the message, just ping her as Fuck This told you. Remember that the attraction has an expiration date, you can read the article on GC. If she is single and went to Ibiza with her girlfriends.. Well I can bet she had one or more stories over there, so this may overshadow the thing you had with her. Anyway, ping her and see if you can schedule a date. It's the only thing to do now.

Best!

 

[Charlie]

Thank you both very much for the help! I followed your advice and she has re engaged and we’ve arranged another date. I didn’t know about the dinner beforehand but that’s a good point you make razir110. Taken on board.

 

[Space]

This girl is a genuine 10.

I only react to your first sentence. This may still be important in the long term.

According to Roosh, the 10-scale maxes out at 9, there is no such thing as a 10. Anything above 7, that is, a 8 or a 9 in looks, didn't have to develop her personality since she got everything in life based on her looks. As long as you are still with the 10-scale, this seems legitimate.

But according to Chase and me, you better ditch the 10-scale altogether.