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just read rodgers elliot manifesto,could he have been saved?

Ree

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I was randomly googling stuff and i entered a rabbit hole where i read rodger elliots manifesto,king of the incels,
and man I cant stop wondering,
could this tragedy have been averted?
like if a skilled seducer,had met him,could he have taught this guy social skills and ultimately how to get laid and find a gf?
because I see this guy and he isnt even unattractive,i even struggle to see what his issues,was he,wasnt ugly or poor,
anyway, thought experiment, you meet elliot rodger,befriend him,be a mentor,game with him ,teach him,help him get laid,is that something feasible?or would his victim mentality make him unteachable?
what would likley happen?
would he absolutely refuse to appraoch?(i have seen people who no matter ho mych you goad them,or push them or plead with them,they wuill simply not apprach a stranger).
would you be able to teach him or would he break you first?
would he go and fail and blame you?
and what about hookers?are they a viabe albeit temporary soloution to avert such a crisis,im thinking maybe if someone would have just taken the guy to a hooker to get the edge off,like great now you are no longer a virgin,crisis averted as we work on you some more,
also who exactly should teach a man how to attract females,I am so fortunate i stumbled onto gc,but not everyone will find gc,is this something that should happen naturally?or is the ddds job?,anyway just thinking out loud,would appreciate you guys thoughts
 

Ree

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Chase literally has an article answering all your questions on this.

Here it is:
https://www.girlschase.com/comment/27879
great article,althoughy my question isnt the point of view of the incel,rather its the point of view o the person who might have tried to "save" the incel, in short what would likely happen if a seducttion caoch stumbles on an incel,would they be able to save themor would the incel likley be just too deep into victim mentality land to be saved
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

theReason

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Influencing a guy to exit victim mentality will in the long run put him further in victim mentality, because you are literally being an outside force on his life that is controlling him.

You would basically have to let him manipulate you, rather than the other way around.

Pretty much women are far too masculine and men are far too feminine for any change to be made except from their own selves

Chase and dating coaches in general is for people who are already on the path to pussy and need to get there quicker.

When somebody says “Eliot Rodger needed GOD in his life” they are probably right. He needed something of his own making; too many external forces were messing with him, more external forces would not have helped.

We need more men entering into agency like it was their own idea, and more women moved out of agency and into victim mentality through being sexually dominated.
 

Teevster

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He needed psychiatric care, not pick up coaching.

-Teevster
 

Skills

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I did a video for context... I was there when he was posting... You need to understand what was happening during that time and the environment... The forum where he was hanging out etc... Watch my video to understand:

 

Bill

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He seemed to have untreated Schizophrenia. Surprisingly none of the analysts on this mentioned this aside from Ann Coulter. He refused to take his medicine.
 
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