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[Francis]

Today I went to a lounge for an early event while it was still light out. I wanted to see this DJ who's a local legend (and beyond).

It was really small and low key with people seated, so I asked this girl who was alone if the seats next to her were taken, and she offered me to sit there with her. We got talking and asked about each other for a while. I had a seeded opportunity for a bounce but was not interested in taking it.

I would not even count it as an approach. Same with these two hospital social momentum approaches - even though they led to approach invitations from other girls, they were pure warmups with women I had no interest in.

https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/this-is-why-you-suck-at-daygame….32093/post-208044

Anyways, I hung out by the booth like a groupie after, wanting to ask some technical questions. Another girl was sitting there full frontal towards me, and I should have opened her as another warmup and social proof, but again I had no interest in her.

The DJ was busy talking, so instead of hanging around, I went inside to use the bathroom, and then started talking to an employee. We exchanged some commonalities and loose connections with people we know. I told him I wanted to ask the DJ some stuff, so he said he would introduce me.

I went back to the booth with him and in a little bit got an introduction. He was very happy to nerd out, and we talked about his manual fading in a remix, panning L/R separation in the club, speed / pitch shifting and his analog past, some specific synthesizer sounds, analog-to-digital converters, and his full size mixing console. The conversation drew a couple people in, and when I departed, a girl was amazed and continued asking him questions.

He told a story of how he had to sign off for a Top 40 artist to be able to perform a song on a major televised award show.

He sometimes DJ's at the most high end rooftop patio venue in the city.

@West_Indian_Archie hope I did it right...

Note despite A1, A2, and A3 on the label below, this is direct game:

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

Sounds like good socialization to me. I've literally done the same with touring artists and basically used that as social proof with the "scene". This happens inadvertently, because people that do this right are genuinely interested in the thing that they are attending.

For my own genre, there's always some "party people" that go to everything and know each other by sight. So it starts with clubs, and then concerts, and then record stores - but demographically speaking, you end up also seeing those same people at all. The cool movies, all the cool restaurants, and then all the places that you buy clothes.

It's funny that you'll see people for YEARS, talk to them, and never know their names. I remember running into people at the mall, who I'd seen before, and who had also seen me, but had never spoken in the club environment. Seeing each other outside of that, we had a false familiarity with each other, and started talking.

This goes into the idea of "loose ties" and that social theory. RSD Luke took this to the max by talking about being the "connector" or "maven" in social theory.

But this is long game social circle stuff. It's probably not for guys that want to run and gun.

With the girl/girls specifically, you should always find out where else they go for the culture. But also offer up places that you go. Reciprocity is useful, leading first is useful, and geniuine interest is helpful.

And also the biggest part of night life game, imo, are the "off" nights. (Sunday-Wednesday) I've said this a thousand times. If a chick is drinking on a Tuesday night, she ain't doing nothing important Wednesday morning.

 

[Jamster]

This goes into the idea of "loose ties" and that social theory. RSD Luke took this to the max by talking about being the "connector" or "maven" in social theory.

I'm ensconced in various social circles. There are hotter women I have contact with than I can expect through cold approach. Loose ties are money! Sometimes seeing a woman out regular context is like a mini venue change.

I had not heard of RSD Luke before, but I'm v interested. When I did many cold approaches my success went WAY up, but most of my lays were social circles/loose ties, not directly results from cold approaches. The cold approaches sharpened my wits.

Also Luke is not the stud muffin so many coaches are. That means real game to me!

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[West_Indian_Archie]

I'm ensconced in various social circles. There are hotter women I have contact with than I can expect through cold approach. Loose ties are money! Sometimes seeing a woman out regular context is like a mini venue change.

I had not heard of RSD Luke before, but I'm v interested. When I did many cold approaches my success went WAY up, but most of my lays were social circles/loose ties, not directly results from cold approaches. The cold approaches sharpened my wits.

Also Luke is not the stud muffin so many coaches are. That means real game to me!

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Tying together Cold Approach and Social Circles, along with the other modes - day game, social media game, passport game, and online dating game - can all super power each other in my experience.

In my opinion, cold game that you use with broads, is game that you should use with everyone. You want to get invited out, but also invite people out. You want to connect people = be it guys and girls for romance, or people for jobs and business.

Pick Up touches on this stuff a little, but it's just much bigger than swooping girls at Starbucks..

 

[Francis]

Sounds like good socialization to me. I've literally done the same with touring artists and basically used that as social proof with the "scene". This happens inadvertently, because people that do this right are genuinely interested in the thing that they are attending.

For my own genre, there's always some "party people" that go to everything and know each other by sight. So it starts with clubs, and then concerts, and then record stores - but demographically speaking, you end up also seeing those same people at all. The cool movies, all the cool restaurants, and then all the places that you buy clothes.

It's funny that you'll see people for YEARS, talk to them, and never know their names. I remember running into people at the mall, who I'd seen before, and who had also seen me, but had never spoken in the club environment. Seeing each other outside of that, we had a false familiarity with each other, and started talking.

This goes into the idea of "loose ties" and that social theory. RSD Luke took this to the max by talking about being the "connector" or "maven" in social theory.

But this is long game social circle stuff. It's probably not for guys that want to run and gun.

With the girl/girls specifically, you should always find out where else they go for the culture. But also offer up places that you go. Reciprocity is useful, leading first is useful, and geniuine interest is helpful.

And also the biggest part of night life game, imo, are the "off" nights. (Sunday-Wednesday) I've said this a thousand times. If a chick is drinking on a Tuesday night, she ain't doing nothing important Wednesday morning.

Ohhh yeah I'm glad I took notes from your interview haha the weekday free nights do seem to reveal the real scene... And "whatcha doin in the club on a Thursday" -Kanye... Even better question on a Tuesday.

A DJ girl that night (who I've seen headlining stuff) seemed to recognize me across the room from a coffee shop before. And it turns out the guy I talked to is a LOT more connected to some venues than I realized. I have a specific conversational thread to pick up on with him. Just not sure how to add value (like introduce girls or sharing Intel) besides letting him enjoy sharing wisdom, since he doesn't seem single and is fully entrenched in the music... In terms of social status he's at the very peak. But for anyone else, yeah definitely. Can do a little connecting.

Today I saw the girl who was full frontal towards me at the DJ booth... Same one who picked up asking him questions after. I went in to a pot shop for their ATM only so I could go get cash-only tacos somewhere else. And she literally held the door for me on the way out. She avoided eye contact, seemingly sort of like autorejection in a way, since I didn't open her and I was with a girl who was dressed incredibly.

Anyways... Should probably get good at level 1 and 2 game before worrying too much about 3 and 4.