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TLDR

- Opened a girl on Sunday with "you must be a tourist" and a warm smirk while she was taking a picture
- We spoke (my flow is step 4 here) and agreed to have a date the next day
- Next day, I'm her romantic tour guide showing her around London
- After our date, she comes back to mine, no LMR & we have a fun evening

Feels great because honestly think I could run this exact playbook every weekend & do 1-4 lays a month off tourists alone.

That momentum will then naturally pass on to local girls too who I'm also getting numbers/dates with.

In 1 month I did 63 approaches, got 14 numbers or Instagrams, went on 5 dates and 1 lay

Long version

If you've read my abundance blueprint journal you know I've been re-doing my whole approach to game.

Transitioning from mostly nightgame, apps and some daygame to mostly daygame, interest-based events and some nightgame.

Reason for the switch is wanting more "quality" which for me just means emotionally secure, good EQ, happy low drama girls. Bodycount doesn't really matter to me (anymore) but I won't open that can of worms lol.

Can read all about my "failed" dates here where I was basically re-calibrating and learning.

Meeting the Girl
She was across the road, had tanned cinnamon brown skin, long dark hair, dark grey denim shorts, black running trainers and a baggy white T-shirt. I almost didn't approach because of the inconvenience but because I've been doing a load of approaches I was warm, cut that excuse from my head and went for it. Be rude not too as she was very much my type. Turns out to be 30 which is older than my preference (no more than 25) but she's fun and could pass for younger.

"You must be a tourist" warm smirk, big smile and repeated it because she was on the phone but hung up right away. I then tease her for pausing at some random pavement. She then shares she's visiting from Mexico and we chit chat. I ask her how she finds London (she loves it) and quickly start frames about how travel gives you adventure, anonymity and freedom... I ask her if she's ever been in [tourist location near where I live] she says no and I offer to give her a tour. I ask when she's free and offer tomorrow, she agrees and I say we'll meet there tomorrow at 2PM and point across the road to which she agrees

Very little as it was a day apart. I hit her with "Hii x, nice meeting you :)" she replies "I know" I say hope your food was good (she was going to five guys) and see you tomorrow. She replies to the burger bit but not the meetup confirmation so I get a little jittery but I was overthinking it. She messages good morning next day, more chit chat and inside joke about how she'll go back to Mexico in 2027 because of all the travelling she's doing, and give a causal ping of "P.S still good for 2pm" she replies "Yes" and it's game on

The Date

She arrives 10 minutes late after getting lost lol, in that time I buy a few cocktail cans as she mentioned loving alcohol. She arrives in a sexy black dress and running trainers and I'm excited... The date has LOTSSSS of walking. Topcat gave me good advice that you want to spend most the time just sat down talking in a casual setting (which I found to be very true), I lost other lays from walking too much with tourists but this one I got the balance better. We end up having a de-tour to a football stadium before or planned location. I also tell her she gets a limit of 3 pictures per location as I didn't want personal assistant photographer vibes, and she was cool with it. While walking I'm lightly touching her waist as we cross the road, or moving her to the pavement side, arm around her with a warm hug when she says something cute then easing off and not touchign her at all. Basically getting her comfortable. She's easy to talk to and we cover her big family, how much she loves Mexico, her job as a laywer, turns out she's actually smart and has a masters, scholarship for a PHD and still family orientated. It's attractive and vindicates why I love Daygame so much

This is where things got good. Start deep diving her on relationships, her family dynamics and she's overrall healthy but self-admittedly a control freak who doesn't like to be vulnerable, I cold read that it's a safety mechanism and make her feel seen I also make the observation of how she's super feminine in her appearance and demeanour but very masculine and driven in her goals (calling back specific things she told me before) and how it's an attractive mix, she says you know me better than guys who've known me 6 months. Her body language starts facing me more while we're sat on the grass, touching me back in response to my intermittent touching and from there we go back to one last tourist destination

Throughout the date she peppers in how "I'm a stranger" and could kill her. I playfully say warmly, I'm a lover not a fighter and re-instate this is a "judgment free zone" so please stop with a grin and occasionally reversing and saying she may be from the cartel. Looking back it's a small shit-test that I hardly noticed, like with a lot of these things, if you're chill, they'll follow your lead

After the park we go to one last tourist destination and get some food. The sat down conversation got us closer together and we're now hand holding, arms around shoulders but intermittent. Whenever I sense she wants her own space I give it. My vibe is very chill, warm and she comments several times about how i'm just "nice" lol and I purposely build a vibe of familiarity, chillness and causal. The food we get is a burger spot, she has wings and I get fries. On the way to food I talk about how I want her to play me some more of her music and we can do it from my speaker, she says where, yours? I say yeah if you'd like... She says "maybe" which makes me think ahh it's 50/50, I say cool keep walking hand in hand and then she comes back with "we can even watch a film" and I know it's game on

Super easyyyyyy. Because the "couple" vibes had been set before coming back to mine, we could go straight into cuddling/affection which is something that took more time/friction in previous dates because I hadn't set the right frame before the pull. She comes back, I ask her what music she likes (I've found that getting the girl to play her music helps with comfort and her enjoying your space), we play bad bunny, vibe kiss her within 5-10 minutes, slowly ramp up and it's straightforward with no LMR. Post lay she shared how my incidental touching made her know I was into her and the conversation/deep diving is where she went from just physically attracted to into me. Apparently sex with a stranger was also a fantasy so pretty cool I helped her live that out

Closing thoughts

Been talking a lot with topcat on this and I think as guys we overcomplicate this a ton. As long as you're not diagnosed autistic & put in enough reps to learn you can "feel" your way through interactions.

Build Comfort - Display sexual interest gracefully - Build a connection - Lay.

Every stage is baby-stepped so that the lay feels like a natural end conclusion instead of some big deal...

May write a larger piece at some point but for now

Oh and last thing, daygame has made me enjoy game again. The process feels more like a romantic adventure than an efficient means to an end.

This girl was grateful for the experience and invited me to Mexico and you know what? If money and time allows - I may take her up on it.

Onward and upwards x
 
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barneystin

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Been talking a lot with topcat on this and I think as guys we overcomplicate this a ton. As long as you're not diagnosed autistic & put in enough reps to learn you can "feel" your way through interactions.
Yeah this is something i’ve been thinking about and slowly remodeling my game after.

Thinking back to most of my lays, they were definitely into me from early on in the set. I mean i’ve had lays where i got a lot of shit or she was pretty shy but they were at least decently compliant. I’m still in the phase where i prefer running efficient game so i’ll be using this knowledge to weed out time wasters faster and avoid unnecessary overgaming

Great report! Glad you’re getting adjusted to your new system
 

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Love it man gotta love those tourist lays, so chill and smooth! No bitch shield, no annoying girlfriends, no cockblocks, no loud music, no spirits, no going to sleep at 6 a.m., etc. etc.

Mex are also hot af...

Great job.
 

DoWhatWorks

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I’m still in the phase where i prefer running efficient game

Efficiency phase definitely serves a useful purpose

Great report! Glad you’re getting adjusted to your new system

Thanks man, slowly coming together

Love it man gotta love those tourist lays, so chill and smooth! No bitch shield, no annoying girlfriends, no cockblocks, no loud music, no spirits, no going to sleep at 6 a.m., etc. etc.

Mex are also hot af...

Great job.

Exactly! I'm shocked I never took the tourist market more seriously... Great way of getting a high number of fun and cool girls

Yes they're, hopefully the first of many
 

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Love to see it brother.

A masterclass in consistency and sticking to the process. Results are inevitable.

Inspiring me to get out there and get my numbers up this weekend.
 

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Love to see it brother.

A masterclass in consistency and sticking to the process. Results are inevitable.

Inspiring me to get out there and get my numbers up this weekend.

Thank you man!

Only a matter of time before it continues to roll in for you... Seen first hand how in flow you're right now ;)
 

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"You must be a tourist" warm smirk, big smile and repeated it because she was on the phone but hung up right away. I then tease her for pausing at some random pavement. She then shares she's visiting from Mexico and we chit chat. I ask her how she finds London (she loves it)

Good cold read open (even if she wasn't a tourist), transition was good. Going to "how she finds London" - not great and fairly boring. This is not qualifying, in case that's what you thought. I'm guessing the "chit chat" was just neutral fluff, not seduction?

I ask her how she finds London (she loves it) and quickly start frames about how travel gives you adventure, anonymity and freedom..

This was good, should have drilled down abit more on this.

I ask her if she's ever been in [tourist location near where I live] she says no and I offer to give her a tour. I ask when she's free and offer tomorrow, she agrees and I say we'll meet there tomorrow at 2PM and point across the road to which she agrees
Offering (yourself) to be a tour guide - I just don't think is ever good game. If you propose a date and she says, "oh, you can give me a tour of (whatever)" as a way for her to justify her own compliance, while remaining in her good girl justification, that's great.
But offering being a tour guide like this seems blue pill normie and unseductive - it's something alot of normal guys do and it's not very seductive and is often rejected.
I note you didn't get alot of compliance or escalate physically at all, why?

I ask when she's free and offer tomorrow, she agrees and I say we'll meet there tomorrow at 2PM and point across the road to which she agrees

Good that you proposed the date in person (as opposed to after alot of messaging with the korean) - but why didn't you go for an instadate there and then? She's being a tourist right there and then and you were in front of her.

While walking I'm lightly touching her waist as we cross the road, or moving her to the pavement side, arm around her with a warm hug when she says something cute then easing off and not touchign her at all. Basically getting her comfortable.

This looks like the extent of the touching throughout - fairly tame. It could have been worse but just seems fairly friendly throughout.

Start deep diving her on relationships, her family dynamics and she's overrall healthy but self-admittedly a control freak who doesn't like to be vulnerable, I cold read that it's a safety mechanism and make her feel seen I also make the observation of how she's super feminine in her appearance and demeanour but very masculine and driven in her goals
Her saying she's a control freak = I want to do things my way and give you an excuse for bad behaviour + when I give you resistance, it's my nature. When she's actually just scared.

Throughout the date she peppers in how "I'm a stranger" and could kill her. I playfully say warmly, I'm a lover not a fighter and re-instate this is a "judgment free zone" so please stop with a grin and occasionally reversing and saying she may be from the cartel

This was a way to get you to qualify to her - which you sort of did but dodged fully qualifying. Saying she was in the cartel would have been a great response. "I'm the stranger, says the cartel member here. Spying on me to report back, are we? lol" You qualified first instead.

She says "maybe" which makes me think ahh it's 50/50, I say cool keep walking hand in hand and then she comes back with "we can even watch a film" and I know it's game on

This was abit passive on your part here. You really passed the leadership to you on going back to your house, then she was un-decided. Then eventually she likely thought, "he's likely not going to try again and I need to lead abit or this won't happen" - then she comes back with an affirmative, changing from the maybe.

Build Comfort - Display sexual interest gracefully - Build a connection - Lay.

Where did you build comfort or display sexual interest gracefully? I really didn't see that in what you wrote above.

I think this woman gave you a tonne of chances and grace, while picking up the slack for you alot throughout, which made this work.

I notice that alot of the lay reports you write are foreigners who are there for the short term. Are you seducing any actual local white British girls?
 
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@James Cruse I genuinely don't know why you're obsessed with my posts.

Commenting on 5 back to back is weird but you do you.

If you have such strong opinions, feel free to share an ideal standard of LR that's more recent than January 2024

The only thing I'll respond to from your reply is this
I notice that alot of the lay reports you write are foreigners who are there for the short term. Are you seducing any actual local white British girls?

Yes and unlike you, I can show it's this year ;)
 

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The only thing I'll respond to from your reply is this

Wait, so you're implying all the advice I just gave is incorrect or wrong? :LOL:

I don't think you read what I said mate, I already said why I was commenting - so go back and re-read again. (y)
 

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Wait, so you're implying all the advice I just gave is incorrect or wrong? :LOL:

I don't think you read what I said mate, I already said why I was commenting - so go back and re-read again. (y)
james you following around his post is not cool brother read this post by chase:

 

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james you following around his post is not cool brother read this post by chase:

So you're saying the above is great seduction and no constructive criticism can or should be given, in your opinion?

Go read what I said in earlier posts about why I replied to his lol and stop white knighting for another "Tribal Elder", it's humiliating for him.

I read a bunch of posts by the same authors in a row all the time, like Gorilli's recently, as I've done for yours.
 

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So you're saying the above is great seduction and no constructive criticism can or should be given, in your opinion?

Go read what I said in earlier posts about why I replied to his lol and stop white knighting for another "Tribal Elder", it's humiliating for him.

I read a bunch of posts by the same authors in a row all the time, like Gorilli's recently, as I've done for yours.
If he put the dick in her vagina is a great seduction in my book..
 

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If he put the dick in her vagina is a great seduction in my book..

Well, great. I do alot of daygame and you know that you don't.

I can see now see why his conversion in daygame is so poor - I couldn't understand how it could be, knowing what he knows.

Now I know why his conversion is where it is - and these successes actually say alot more than he thinks about why so many others are rejections.

So people can take my advice and get better or keep their heads buried in the sand and wonder why they need to approach 70+ women during the day before one of them is successful.
 

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Well, great. I do alot of daygame and you know that you don't.

I can see now see why his conversion in daygame is so poor - I couldn't understand how it could be, knowing what he knows.

Now I know why his conversion is where it is - and these successes actually say alot more than he thinks about why so many others are rejections.

So people can take my advice and get better or keep their heads buried in the sand and wonder why they need to approach 70+ women during the day before one of them is successful.
How do you know i don't do day game??? I do not actively do day game but I do day game(opportunistic got this year couple of lays from day game)... But I need to fix my ankle monitor...so you can track what i do better from your radar... On the phone with the bounty hunter as we speak... I will let you know when is fix....

James, you have some type of personality weird issue:

- you had problems with wrapped mindless
- you had problems with teevester (which is why i banned you from group cause you could not provide evidence of you accussations)
- now you have a hard on for dww cause you fail to understand his inflation post....

Re read the post i posted please 5 times in entry 11...
 
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How do you know i don't do day game??? I do not actively do day game but I do day game(opportunistic got this year couple of lays from day game)... But I need to fix my ankle monitor...so you can track what i do better from your radar... On the phone with the bounty hunter as we speak... I will let you know when is fix....

James, you have some type of personality weird issue:

- you had problems with wrapped mindless
- you had problems with teevester (which is why i banned you from group cause you could not provide evidence of you accussations)
- now you have a hard on for dww cause you fail to understand his inflation post....

Re read the post i posted please 5 times in entry 11...
He’s hard up for clients, and is experimenting with new lead gen methods. It’s clear he’s struggling financially and when you look at his methods it’s not surprising…
 

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How do you know i don't do day game??? I do not actively do day game but I do day game

You said so yourself mate, that you found it hard and you do it rarely - so it's from you.
- you had problems with teevester (which is why i banned you from group cause you could not provide evidence of you accussations)
lol, ok mate. Evidence isn't evidence to you, I suppose.

- now you have a hard on for dww cause you fail to understand his inflation post....
Mr. Mindreader? Have you actually read his posts? Surely not, because he needs all the help he can get. And you're still asserting nothing I said was constructive or relevant?

Is this not one of the biggest elements of this board or do we only pat each other on the back here?
 

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And you're still asserting nothing I said was constructive or relevant?
Maybe there’s something constructive in it, but nobody is going to read it because a. it’s overwhelming and b. comes off as massively ego-inflated.

You might think you’re just being helpful, but to everyone else it looks obviously like a personal attack on DWW. You need to tone it down.
 

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Maybe there’s something constructive in it, but nobody is going

Which part were or were not constructive? Why not comment on what I said directly about seduction - or didn't you read it either?

I thought this forum was about getting better at seduction.

I'll get through many other people's posts if I have the time and do the same.

Where was all of this defence and white-knighting when I made a comment on Gorilli's post recently or anyone else's LR's for that matter?
 
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