Socializing My end of the year review.- The inflationary year

[Skills]

Update: Latin club i went last night land of 5 to 7s(chonga land, the little cropped shirt with the fat hanging out exhibit 10).... the club was remodeled and looks just like the new clubs, bunch of vip tables.... same dynamics of an american club, so it was shit! though more available girls (in the 5-7) range... they also let underage...i was surprised that barely people dancing in a latin club, just standing around... However, this was not a partner dancing latin club, the music was reggetton and hip hop, tiny little latin techno (like 2 songs)... NOt good...So i left to my area, and it was decent....(what i talk about inconsistencies)..

so my next goal is to scout gay club, partner dancing latin club, and techno club.... (as part of what i said 3 times more research)...

So i may need to edit post on the latin stuff.... however, as i said the latin dancing community events is where is at (ratios and dynamics) as of now..... not necessarily latin clubs, though again i need to go to a partner dancing latin club to finish the research... (in a month i will)

Good news, spoke to the former club manager of the club that close down in my area...- he said it was not a financial issue, but an opportunity, they sold the biz.... (they may open another club in 4 months) praying to the club gods...

Found a video looks like this more or less:

 

[Francis]

settings with conversational volume for sure. I typically go indirect

man I've always pictured you in a suit doing movie scene seductions... awesome.

learning about fashion is a goldmine for pickup.
And talking about clothes/stilettos/etc easily leads to sensual and sexual conversations

zodiac stuff

good call, especially the fashion. zodiac is great chick crack too... fashion can be very indirect though! great transition opportunity to sexualize.

my contribution to the annual review: artificial intelligence conversation -> book-to-postcast tools -> G-spot book -> clit-centric worldview due to cotton swab tests not applying enough pressure -> fractionate, or 8 orgasms gambit

 

[Francis]

techno club

I did a quick search out of curiosity. Note this is NOT counting the real underground stuff. I've heard people use Discord to share party fliers, so you may need to ask around in person. Usually these are at non-traditional venues (likely low ROI gameplan).

Florida seems pretty devoid of this kind of culture to be honest. Even Miami's best bet looks like this (some free weekdays):

Do Not Sit On The Furniture – Miami Underground Music Scene

donotsitonthefurniture.com

When a website calls itself the "premier underground movement" and a "sophisticated environment", it is NOT. Organic growth needs affordable rent where the artsy youth can be creative.

Best bets look like Spazio on top of Lynora's, the backyard of Respectables (live rock club), and Banko Fridays.

https://www.reddit.com/r/palmbeach/comments/1kumd5o
https://www.reddit.com/r/WestPalmBeach/comments/15erfsm

 

[Skills]

I did a quick search out of curiosity. Note this is NOT counting the real underground stuff. I've heard people use Discord to share party fliers, so you may need to ask around in person. Usually these are at non-traditional venues (likely low ROI gameplan).

Florida seems pretty devoid of this kind of culture to be honest. Even Miami's best bet looks like this (some free weekdays):

Do Not Sit On The Furniture – Miami Underground Music Scene

donotsitonthefurniture.com

When a website calls itself the "premier underground movement" and a "sophisticated environment", it is NOT. Organic growth needs affordable rent where the artsy youth can be creative.

Best bets look like Spazio on top of Lynora's, the backyard of Respectables (live rock club), and Banko Fridays.

https://www.reddit.com/r/palmbeach/comments/1kumd5o
https://www.reddit.com/r/WestPalmBeach/comments/15erfsm

Jesus this dude.. brother banko closed down..i know all clubs in ny area..

 

[Francis]

scout gay club, partner dancing latin club, and techno club.... (as part of what i said 3 times more research)...

i know all clubs in ny area..

right...

I'm sure you would have walked into the backyard of the rock club scouting for house/techno. adios skills.

 

[Skills]

right...

I'm sure you would have walked into the backyard of the rock club scouting for house/techno. adios skills.

I don't understand what this means

 

[Francis]

The gay clubs.- I may try this, i have no idea where they are in my city

i know all clubs in ny area..

I am trying to help you... there's a new gay bar called lucky's.

it is a good habit to always lead with appreciation and reward investment. it's good operant conditioning and avoids auto rejection like the christmas cologne sample. you're welcome...

 

[Skills]

I am trying to help you... there's a new gay bar called lucky's.

it is a good habit to always lead with appreciation and reward investment. it's good operant conditioning and avoids auto rejection like the christmas cologne sample. you're welcome...

brother i know the area and been going to clubs around here for 15 years, i specifically explain in the op not to do exactly what you are doing....you went on the internet and google crap, but thanks you for telling me about the gay BAR... did you read where i said that is that last resort, did you actually read teevester recommendation... You forgot that you recommended 3 clubs, i already knew and have been too and another that closed down...

here is by teevester:

That said, these venues have changed too. As homosexuality has become more normalized (thanks to the LGBTQ+ movement), gay clubs now have far more straight people than they used to. This shift has been gradual, not overnight.

Do you know the girl that order me the cologne i been dating for 5 years brother and did you know the post was satirical in nature... I know you are genz not your fault...

 

[Francis]

gay BAR

it is called "lucky's bar & nightclub" and does not look like a dive. this was a gay "bar" and if there's a dance floor, what's the difference besides size. they can still make it a party. if it's not all tables maybe it will accomplish the goal... girls with spiked buying temperatures from the gay guys, general open-mindedness, and lowered guards.

i already knew and have been to

I do not doubt you've been everywhere. the point was a specific house music night in the backyard of the rock club.

you are 10 minutes from mar-a-lago... trump's literal backyard. I was curious if there are alt clubs there... forgive me for giving you a tip I stumbled on. the real one is to find a house dj and ask if there's a discord or similar for the underground scene. again warning low ROI.

Do you know the girl that order me the cologne i been dating for 5 years brother

of course. I know she is hella invested. the more you dip into auto-rejection and back, the more powerful. and spiking drama maintains tension... I think you can still do this without punishing investment. dale carnegie influence 101. skills I am always smiling... all I want from you is a lay report. have fun.

 

[D. Gately]

- Anxiety, stress, depression huge with gen z, continue to get worst.... Many gen z are taking medications..
- Gen z women cont. to dress very sexy almost naked

A change I've made last year is that after almost every meet with Gen Z, I'll send a follow-up text:
I had a good/great/etc time hanging out with you last night, you looked hot/sexy/etc in that outfit/dress/heels/or sex was amazing, etc. [Vary your phrasing, be sincere, and don't copypasta from a prior text].
Prior to this I would keep almost all texting to logistics-based after the first 2 meets. No more.

These girls are all anxious and need to be re-assured 10x more than I did in the past. You almost need to treat them like a girlfriend who had a shitty day at work and is afraid she'll be fired.

Plus, it gives them the opportunity to compliment you in return, which is a good source of info if not totally generic. Also they may be more comfortable talking about what they want to do in bed over text and not face-to-face due to the anxiety points above. 'I want you to tie me up again,' and so on.

 

[Skills]

A change I've made last year is that after almost every meet with Gen Z, I'll send a follow-up text:
I had a good/great/etc time hanging out with you last night, you looked hot/sexy/etc in that outfit/dress/heels/or sex was amazing, etc. [Vary your phrasing, be sincere, and don't copypasta from a prior text].
Prior to this I would keep almost all texting to logistics-based after the first 2 meets. No more.

These girls are all anxious and need to be re-assured 10x more than I did in the past. You almost need to treat them like a girlfriend who had a shitty day at work and is afraid she'll be fired.

Plus, it gives them the opportunity to compliment you in return, which is a good source of info if not totally generic. Also they may be more comfortable talking about what they want to do in bed over text and not face-to-face due to the anxiety points above. 'I want you to tie me up again,' and so on.

that is smart strategy, i usually tell them to text me when they get home to make sure they are ok... (a bit of compliance too)...

 

[D. Gately]

Oh yes, I usually do that too, but they often forget by the time they get home and pass out right away esp if they've been drinking, so this is my improvement on that technique.

 

[Skills]

Oh yes, I usually do that too, but they often forget by the time they get home and pass out right away esp if they've been drinking, so this is my improvement on that technique.

If it was a good interaction in my experience they usually text....if they don't text i say... Did you get home safe or do i have to call csi Miami... But they usually text..

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

While women don't get approach in day game (this is factual)

Still? It was my impression that went totally mainstream. First the London daygamers made it mega popular a few years after we did it, and then a lot of really big mega-youtubers did daygame cold approach content. What makes you say women still don't get approached during the day? Not saying you're wrong, I'm curious how you came to that conclusion.

so my next goal is to scout gay club

Times are that desperate huh? Well definitely use a mouth guard when going down on a gay guy, they're riddled with STDs... haha just kidding. I get the angle, gay guys are there with female (straight) friends and you're the only guy in the venue hitting on them... I've done it, it works.

 

[Skills]

Still? It was my impression that went totally mainstream. First the London daygamers made it mega popular a few years after we did it, and then a lot of really big mega-youtubers did daygame cold approach content. What makes you say women still don't get approached during the day? Not saying you're wrong, I'm curious how you came to that conclusion.

Times are that desperate huh? Well definitely use a mouth guard when going down on a gay guy, they're riddled with STDs... haha just kidding. I get the angle, gay guys are there with female (straight) friends and you're the only guy in the venue hitting on them... I've done it, it works.

Okay is location dependent, but at least in usa i personally don't see people approaching day game other than homeless, mall sales people, boy scouts and Christians... In pu no really i am talking malls and typical day game places... I walk the mall everyday as part of my 10k step fitness routine... The gay club venues thankfully never got to field test found a different strategy... But many guys have had a lot of success in gay venues.. bitch shield lower for obvious reasons...

 

[Skills]

So clubs in my area had the genius idea to change ALL clubs to 23 and over (i am being sarcastic obviously retarded)..... after 2 weeks of dead clubs, they went back to 21 and over lol!...... So gen z is still important to clubs specially the younger crowd.... (is better something than nothing logic, though a lot don't come out and do every once in a blue moon still adds up), they just don't do it as frequently like previous gens.

facepalm! I should be club consultant i knew that was stupid to raise the age...


They also Opened 2 new clubs.-

1.- a regular club = died within a month, now closed down....

2.- A cowboy country club.- this one is successful... (i just hate country though) follow the "theme" concept and "concert" concept

^ so the clubs that have concerts, or theme following the stuff i posted are the ones that have some success....

- combination of bands with club or some type of weird niche (the disco club), or a combination....

The dynamics though is not that ideal to pick up per se.... ( Social circle light type of vibe, many bachelorettes groups, post graduation groups, post wedding groups) clubs look busy but no ideal for pick up per se, though you can pull just a lot of hustle..

 

[Swati]

The dynamics though is not that ideal to pick up per se.... ( Social circle light type of vibe, many bachelorettes groups, post graduation groups, post wedding groups) clubs look busy but no ideal for pick up per se, though you can pull just a lot of hustle..

Yep, I agree. sucks and annoying with the horrible ratio that's existing these days. let's see how this shit unfolds because I'm thinking night gamers gonna become a day gamer at this point of how the things are looking at the moment. gotta adapt a bit

ALL clubs to 23 and over

I've seen this a couple times, I don't understand why they do that shit. went inside, it felt like an elderly get together, old energy me

 

[Ratata]

Interesting sum-up. Idk if you go to the bigger clubs, there is enough chaos and enough women to talk to that you can pull. Even ripe old me pulled 20-something girls. But you gotta be comfortable with chaos and bs. And pull fast once you get a hook, or someone else will snipe. Especially the Africans are good at sniping lol. Like I was making out with this girl, and I sat down and was about to put her on my lap - when she started making silly demands on me, and said I had to be super faithful. Then I looked away for exactly two seconds and - zooom - girl was sniped by some black dude, and three seconds after he had his tongue down her throat. That shit went down so fast I wasn't even mad.

Niche scenes can also be good, if you fit in. If you're into Satan Metal, I think pickings are still good at least where I live.

I agree that the high end places are better for getting dates. Idk cuz the girls in the high end place think you're rich or something. But IMHO clubs are better for hook-ups. The high end places; man, this is where you still get success running trad PUA techniques and Mystery Method type ship lol. Regular clubs are too noisy and chaotic. The up-scale places can be too, but if you woo a girl, she'll join you to your table (if you've got a table - but ... it's not hard, just go with a gang, and plan it, and you're good, even with bottle service - no you don't have to be rich if you all pitch in on this).

I think it's really interesting to read about the gay scene. I don't go there. And I have really bad experiences with gays. They really, really like me - ahem sexually - even if I don't like them that way. I get hit on a lot by them, and it's frankly annoying. This happens enough in normal clubs for me to never want to set foot in a gay club lol.

The last few years I've radically cut down on clubbing a lot however, since I have a really, really rewarding social life otherwise, with enough flow-through to do serious dating. It's been a long time since I stopped looking for hookups, so this is really ideal for me now.

The whole Tinder situation vs my non-photogenic looks has really made that kind of dating impossible, so I did some research. I've even looked through some pretty alternative paths for this. Like, if you want a trad wife or whatever, there is so many crazy ideas out there. One of the craziest I've heard - but never tested - is to hit up the charismatic churches lol. Apparently there are loads of nubile women waiting for some guy to get married there, or have an affair with. And these girls are apparently wild too, since their sexuality is so repressed otherwise. I mean I can't verify this. I don't know any of this as facts, but if you can verify, I think I'd have a good laugh.

By far the worst places I've gone to are the bigger cafés or places where peeps are spread on bigger tables in cliques. Like smaller cafés can work, smaller tables, more confined places. Cuz you bump into peeps on the way to the bar anyway, and it's natural to say hi. But when there's like five metres between each table, and each table is set with a clique of internals, then it's just weird when outsiders rock up and say hi.

Best fun so far, tho, are DJ events, where the rooms are pumping, people move a lot back and forth, and you either end up speaking to someone outside or nearby the doors (cuz you can't hear for shit inside), or you do the physical / dance game indoors and just make out with a bunch of girls. It's an over-all feel-good situation, and even if you don't pull, I can highly recommend this. Just be happy, dance and get hot with a girl, and kiss her. Just spread the love!

I did see some nasty things too, tho, in some clubs. Guys would post up near bottle next and literally try to grab girls. Let's just say these guys weren't locals. I think this is one of the reasons girls might choose "safer" venues and pre-vetted parties more these days. On the up-side, if you're a cool guy and don't do these things, girls will flock to you for protection!

 

[Francis]

One of the craziest I've heard - but never tested - is to hit up the charismatic churches lol. Apparently there are loads of nubile women waiting for some guy to get married there, or have an affair with. And these girls are apparently wild too, since their sexuality is so repressed otherwise. I mean I can't verify this. I don't know any of this as facts, but if you can verify, I think I'd have a good laugh.

I know of one case... very traditional woman went to her church elders and said she had prayed and felt it was time to get married. The elders prayed on it, then decided to contact an affiliated church in a different city. The elders there prayed on it, then selected a single man from their congregation. They were paired up and it was settled they would marry on the first meeting... after everyone gathered and prayed on it.

And then a girl whose virginity I took and have been seeing for a few years (who has a Jesus fish on the back of her car) left her ethnic church because they pressure members to co-sign mortgages for each other... and is now at a bigger mega-church.... the type that has a big screen, full band, upper deck seating, etc. These have segments in the middle where they make everyone go talk to someone they've never met before... and they have a lobby coffee shop for mingling after. I'm sure she would be very open to meeting a guy there. This one's fairly low sex drive (though still has one). I've met one other repressed girl who was a little wild. She was too nervous to be seen naked so I let her blindfold me to undress.

I've gone to some ethnic gatherings, like with music showcases with cultural food and drink. They're often held in church halls. Here you can find a girl whose parents make her do ethnic dance lessons and such. It seems common for Polish girls in frilly outfits, but I've seen a lot of different groups - even Swedish dance. My grandparents met at church dances, and my mom was once taken to a singles dance by her parents. I think she dated a guy who was more than a few years older than her from that.

 

[Francis]

it was settled they would marry on the first meeting

Clarification it was settled upon first meeting that they were now effectively engaged to be married. In USA, Germanic Christian of some sort.