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Context - LR - -
This girl is on the periphery of my social circle, and is my second body ever. And I'd say this is technically my first seduction. My first body was a social circle freebie so I wouldn't count that.
Correspondence
After the events of the LR - -
( “That day” was from the previous LR - - when I was grinding on her )
After my last message I thought she was ignoring me. She hadnt replied in 8+ hrs.
But she did the right thing & called me:
This went on for a good minute and a half.
I pausing and letting her fill the silence, only responding to worthy objections. She tried putting it off till Monday. When I said no she tried Sunday. When I said no again she said “Uhhh my thighs still hurt”.
I could tell she wanted it, but she was just stalling for whatever reason. At this point I’d had enough:
Then she called me back talking about her thighs. She asked if we can do another time.
Not this again bro.
I paused for a good while then gave a response I think worked well:
Arrived at her house. Called her a few times to unlock the back door.
She was wearing a super long light blue t shirt that covered the length of her body. But I could tell she had nothing under it. It was different from what she was wearing on the facetime call. She must have changed for easy access.
A short conversation ensued:
Drove around a bit. She gave me directions to a nearby cul de sac. We parked, adjusted the seats all the way forward, and went to the back.
Escalation + LMR
After we entered the back, I pulled her close. I built some tension by letting her talk & waiting a bit before making a move. Just letting her yap about whatever while I gave her bedroom eyes. This lasted about 5-10 minutes.
Once there was a lull in the conversation, it was time for me to make a move:
I’m trying many different things. Kissing her neck, feeling up her legs, caressing her body some more. But she just keeps pulling down her shirt. I decided to stop kissing at this point. Its been about 40 minutes of her resisting.
I decided to do a piece of advice I remember from the last post and fractionate by reducing physical stimulation. I took my hand off her and started a conversation about what was making me uncomfortable:
Paused to let the moment sink in.
I resumed making out.
The fractionation worked. This time had much more passion. Kept caressing her body passionately, putting my tongue in her mouth.
My right hand made its way to her clit through the shirt and I started rubbing it. This really seemed to work because she started moaning again. I could notice her get more wet.
I then used my left hand to try and pull up the shirt slowly.
I got it mostly up. Almost above her tits, but then she stopped and pulled it down again. At this point I stopped making out and just talked with her:
I take my boxers off. She hesitates a little, but I help her take her shirt off.
Finally, after an hour+ , we're both fully naked with nothing in the way.
There’s a quick pause, and then a passionate makeout ensues.
I put my naked body onto her for maximal skin contact while I grind my naked dick against her naked clit. She's moaning and gripping my back tightly. I can feel her getting wetter.
Cars drove by us a few times in the cul-de-sac. She was a little paranoid, saying that they may see us. I reassured her and just confidently said that it's impossible. I started keeping an eye out tho.
After enough grinding and kissing I decided to slip my hand down there and finger her.
I decided to try something I thought I’d never do & go down on her clit. Couldnt get myself to lick inside her vagina tho.
My goal was to get her more wet and relaxed to open her up more.
Put my tongue in a circular motion around her clit for about 5 minutes. She got more wet and was moaning the whole time.
I tried again with 2 fingers. Fingers were moving slightly better but she was still in pain.
At this point, I’m thinking I better just rip the band aid and put it in already.
But to my surprise, I looked down and wasn’t even hard anymore lol. I was mission focused.
I quickly got hard again tho when i started focusing on her body
Time to put it in
I went through this cycle of licking her clit fingering her, then trying my dick for about 20 minutes.
I eventually just gave up and told her to suck me. She said okay and gave me my first BJ.
She kept sucking me for a few minutes. It was a decent bj, but it would take about 10 more minutes for me to cum, and it’s already been 2.5 hours. I just decided to end it there.
We put our clothes on and went back to the front.
Post-Sex
Vibe was lowkey awkward in the car ride home for some reason. My conversational skills are still improving.
Probably should have been doing something I didnt think of. She was asking me questions about if the sex was good, did I come, and why I didn’t have condoms.
I said I enjoyed myself & that I just ran out of condoms. I also lied and said I came. I should have just told the truth but I didnt want to hurt her feelings.
She also said she sucked dick twice before me, but I was the first person she let fuck. I can believe that. I set some pretty good nonjudgemental frames so I doubt she’d lie. Plus I couldnt even get 2 fingers fully inside.
Conversation was comfortable but felt a little flat, like there was no connection involved. I intuitively knew I should be rewarding her more.
I dropped her off at her house and gave her a kiss goodbye. She backed off after a quick kiss and left.
Wasn’t really happy with how that ended. Good thing this blessing in disguise happened:
After a while of us bonding & having fun, I decided to end it first & told her its time for me to go. I took my phone & she walked me out. We kissed goodbye & left
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There’s probably a lot of mistakes I’m not seeing, I’ll leave that to y’all to roast me on.
This LR took place 3am Sunday. We also got together that Sunday afternoon at my house cuz my parents werent home (the 2nd meet has a lot to analyze in and of itself.)
She was still so tight and in so much pain that my conscience couldnt bring itself to let me just thrust in the second time. I bought condoms this time but forgot to get the lube bruh.
Main thing that suprised me about her was how soft and girly she was acting in bed. This girl is more dominant than the chicks I usually mess with. She’s also older than me as well - I’m 18 in high school and shes 19 in college.
Guess I just got sauce
Notes:
I would also REALLY appreciate advice on how to open a girl up more… cuz that was extremely frustrating. Does it really take that much work to turn a girl on enough to penetrate??
Thanks for reading guys. All tips are appreciated!
This girl is on the periphery of my social circle, and is my second body ever. And I'd say this is technically my first seduction. My first body was a social circle freebie so I wouldn't count that.
Correspondence
After the events of the LR - -
( “That day” was from the previous LR - - when I was grinding on her )
After my last message I thought she was ignoring me. She hadnt replied in 8+ hrs.
But she did the right thing & called me:
Her: Heyyy what you doing
Me: Just chilling at home. Hby
Her: Nothing I’m okay. Lets facetime!
*Now on video call*
Her: Look at my hair! I’m straightening it right now
Me: Looks nice
Her: Thank you
- I can tell she’s stalling.
I realized my mistake accepting a facetime call. These always go on for too long about BS.
I know she wants me to come over. Time to drop some hints. -
Me: Yeah. I’m lowkey bored rn because my parents aren’t home. Just came back from the party & I’m home alone.
Her: Oh. (playing dumb)
Oh well, she’s not going to help. Guess I’ll just go for it
Me: Yeah, looks like I’ll be able to come over again today.
Her: It’s pretty late
Me: …
Her: I don’t know, my thighs are still hurting (from the grinding).
Me: I’ll go softer, I promise
Her: Are you sure?
Me: …
Me: Just chilling at home. Hby
Her: Nothing I’m okay. Lets facetime!
*Now on video call*
Her: Look at my hair! I’m straightening it right now
Me: Looks nice
Her: Thank you
- I can tell she’s stalling.
I realized my mistake accepting a facetime call. These always go on for too long about BS.
I know she wants me to come over. Time to drop some hints. -
Me: Yeah. I’m lowkey bored rn because my parents aren’t home. Just came back from the party & I’m home alone.
Her: Oh. (playing dumb)
Oh well, she’s not going to help. Guess I’ll just go for it
Me: Yeah, looks like I’ll be able to come over again today.
Her: It’s pretty late
Me: …
Her: I don’t know, my thighs are still hurting (from the grinding).
Me: I’ll go softer, I promise
Her: Are you sure?
Me: …
This went on for a good minute and a half.
I pausing and letting her fill the silence, only responding to worthy objections. She tried putting it off till Monday. When I said no she tried Sunday. When I said no again she said “Uhhh my thighs still hurt”.
I could tell she wanted it, but she was just stalling for whatever reason. At this point I’d had enough:
Her: Ughh but my thighs still hurt
Me:…
Me: Okay so I’ma do some stuff real quick. After that I’ll come over in about 25 minutes.
Her:…
Her: Sureee
Me: Alright, cool. *Hangs up*
Me:…
Me: Okay so I’ma do some stuff real quick. After that I’ll come over in about 25 minutes.
Her:…
Her: Sureee
Me: Alright, cool. *Hangs up*
Then she called me back talking about her thighs. She asked if we can do another time.
Not this again bro.
I paused for a good while then gave a response I think worked well:
“[NAME], look, this is one of the last times I’m going to be able to see you. Once my parents come back its going to be hard to see you again at all. I promise I’ll go softer on your thighs.
…
So I’ma be there in 25 minutes.”
Waited for response. Heard something intelligible. longer pause. She hung up.
Probably green. I decided to go there anyway idc.
sent her an “0mw” text
…
So I’ma be there in 25 minutes.”
Waited for response. Heard something intelligible. longer pause. She hung up.
Probably green. I decided to go there anyway idc.
sent her an “0mw” text
Arrived at her house. Called her a few times to unlock the back door.
She was wearing a super long light blue t shirt that covered the length of her body. But I could tell she had nothing under it. It was different from what she was wearing on the facetime call. She must have changed for easy access.
A short conversation ensued:
Her: Wow, I cant believe my mom is still awake
Me: You think we can still sneak by?
Her: I’m not sure… can we just go in your car?
Me: Sure. Follow me
Me: You think we can still sneak by?
Her: I’m not sure… can we just go in your car?
Me: Sure. Follow me
Drove around a bit. She gave me directions to a nearby cul de sac. We parked, adjusted the seats all the way forward, and went to the back.
Escalation + LMR
After we entered the back, I pulled her close. I built some tension by letting her talk & waiting a bit before making a move. Just letting her yap about whatever while I gave her bedroom eyes. This lasted about 5-10 minutes.
Once there was a lull in the conversation, it was time for me to make a move:
Looked at her lips slowly to elicit a signal. She looked at mine.
Bingo.
Went for the makeout. She complied.
I caressed her body on top of her extra large t-shirt.
Slowly made my way to her tits. I could feel the naked form of her boobs underneath the fabric.
Kept kissing and moving my hand around her body. Slowly introducing my tongue into her mouth. Took of my shirt cuz it was hot.
After 2 minutes or so of this I slowly moved my hand to the bottom of her shirt to pull it up. She slowed down her kissing & pulled her shirt down.
I proceeded like I didn’t even notice. Resumed making out, caressing her body, using passionate tongue.
a few minutes later I tried something slightly different. Instead of pulling the shirt up completely, I slipped my hand under and started feeling up her hourglass figure under the shirt. I felt her body react a little but no physical resistance.
Did this a little longer, then attempted to pull the shirt up a second time. She stops and pulls down her shirt again.
Damn.
Again, I don’t react. I lay her down against the car seat and start grinding against her clit through her shirt while kissing her. Seems to work as she starts moaning.
After a few minutes of this I lift up her shirt slowly to try and get it off. But she softly pulls it down again
Bingo.
Went for the makeout. She complied.
I caressed her body on top of her extra large t-shirt.
Slowly made my way to her tits. I could feel the naked form of her boobs underneath the fabric.
Kept kissing and moving my hand around her body. Slowly introducing my tongue into her mouth. Took of my shirt cuz it was hot.
After 2 minutes or so of this I slowly moved my hand to the bottom of her shirt to pull it up. She slowed down her kissing & pulled her shirt down.
I proceeded like I didn’t even notice. Resumed making out, caressing her body, using passionate tongue.
a few minutes later I tried something slightly different. Instead of pulling the shirt up completely, I slipped my hand under and started feeling up her hourglass figure under the shirt. I felt her body react a little but no physical resistance.
Did this a little longer, then attempted to pull the shirt up a second time. She stops and pulls down her shirt again.
Damn.
Again, I don’t react. I lay her down against the car seat and start grinding against her clit through her shirt while kissing her. Seems to work as she starts moaning.
After a few minutes of this I lift up her shirt slowly to try and get it off. But she softly pulls it down again
I’m trying many different things. Kissing her neck, feeling up her legs, caressing her body some more. But she just keeps pulling down her shirt. I decided to stop kissing at this point. Its been about 40 minutes of her resisting.
I decided to do a piece of advice I remember from the last post and fractionate by reducing physical stimulation. I took my hand off her and started a conversation about what was making me uncomfortable:
*Low Energy Sensual Vibe*
Me: Whats the matter? You need to communicate.
Her:…
Me: …
Me: You don’t think I want you?
Her: *Shakes head*
she is barely communicating. only answering nonverbally. she isn't even looking me in the eyes for more than half a second.
Me: Look at me.
Her: *Eyes look at mine*
Me: Why would I be here again if I didn’t?
Her: I don’t know...
Me: See?
* I pull her in *
Me: We just need to make sure that we communicate. I’ll trust you to will let me know what feels good and what doesn't, using your words or your body or communicating any way you feel you need to. How does that sound? - (@StrayDog)
Her: Okayy...
Me: Whats the matter? You need to communicate.
Her:…
Me: …
Me: You don’t think I want you?
Her: *Shakes head*
she is barely communicating. only answering nonverbally. she isn't even looking me in the eyes for more than half a second.
Me: Look at me.
Her: *Eyes look at mine*
Me: Why would I be here again if I didn’t?
Her: I don’t know...
Me: See?
* I pull her in *
Me: We just need to make sure that we communicate. I’ll trust you to will let me know what feels good and what doesn't, using your words or your body or communicating any way you feel you need to. How does that sound? - (@StrayDog)
Her: Okayy...
Paused to let the moment sink in.
I resumed making out.
The fractionation worked. This time had much more passion. Kept caressing her body passionately, putting my tongue in her mouth.
My right hand made its way to her clit through the shirt and I started rubbing it. This really seemed to work because she started moaning again. I could notice her get more wet.
I then used my left hand to try and pull up the shirt slowly.
I got it mostly up. Almost above her tits, but then she stopped and pulled it down again. At this point I stopped making out and just talked with her:
Me: Whats the matter?
Her: *soft, girly voice* I don't wanna take it off
Me: ...
Her: You don't have yours off *points at my boxers*
Me: Okay. Remember at the movies, when we scooted towards each other at the same time?
Her: Yeah...
Me: Lets both take these off at the same time.
Her: Okay...
Me: 3...2...1...
Her: *soft, girly voice* I don't wanna take it off
Me: ...
Her: You don't have yours off *points at my boxers*
Me: Okay. Remember at the movies, when we scooted towards each other at the same time?
Her: Yeah...
Me: Lets both take these off at the same time.
Her: Okay...
Me: 3...2...1...
I take my boxers off. She hesitates a little, but I help her take her shirt off.
Finally, after an hour+ , we're both fully naked with nothing in the way.
There’s a quick pause, and then a passionate makeout ensues.
I put my naked body onto her for maximal skin contact while I grind my naked dick against her naked clit. She's moaning and gripping my back tightly. I can feel her getting wetter.
Cars drove by us a few times in the cul-de-sac. She was a little paranoid, saying that they may see us. I reassured her and just confidently said that it's impossible. I started keeping an eye out tho.
After enough grinding and kissing I decided to slip my hand down there and finger her.
Fumbled around a bit before i found the vaginal opening. I proceed to put my middle finger in.
I dont even get 1/4th of my finger in.
She pushes my hand away with a girly “Nooo!” because of the pain. I reassure her and tell her I got her. I give her my arm to clutch for moral support while I make my way in with my finger.
I proceeded very slow with my fingers to minimize friction. She was super tight.
I kept going in and out with my middle finger rhythmically. She clutched my arm as I entered and loosened as I exited.
I started to kiss her while doing this to help take her mind off the pain. She got looser with time. I gradually went deeper and deeper till I was eventually hitting the back of her wall with my finger. (She might have a small vagina)
After about 5 minutes of this she was much more lubricated. I got a little bolder and verry carefully inserted 2 fingers in, with the idea of eventually working up to my dick.
Immediate resistance.
“It hurtsss!” She starts squirming.
I reassure her “I got you, I got you” She relaxes and lets me work, still gripping tightly to my arm. I have her trust.
Two fingers feels tight as fuck. I don’t want to force it too much and hurt her.
I try and gradually increase depth over time like I did with one finger, but it just wasn’t working. Could not go nearly as deep even after 5 minutes of rhythmic fingering.
I dont even get 1/4th of my finger in.
She pushes my hand away with a girly “Nooo!” because of the pain. I reassure her and tell her I got her. I give her my arm to clutch for moral support while I make my way in with my finger.
I proceeded very slow with my fingers to minimize friction. She was super tight.
I kept going in and out with my middle finger rhythmically. She clutched my arm as I entered and loosened as I exited.
I started to kiss her while doing this to help take her mind off the pain. She got looser with time. I gradually went deeper and deeper till I was eventually hitting the back of her wall with my finger. (She might have a small vagina)
After about 5 minutes of this she was much more lubricated. I got a little bolder and verry carefully inserted 2 fingers in, with the idea of eventually working up to my dick.
Immediate resistance.
“It hurtsss!” She starts squirming.
I reassure her “I got you, I got you” She relaxes and lets me work, still gripping tightly to my arm. I have her trust.
Two fingers feels tight as fuck. I don’t want to force it too much and hurt her.
I try and gradually increase depth over time like I did with one finger, but it just wasn’t working. Could not go nearly as deep even after 5 minutes of rhythmic fingering.
I decided to try something I thought I’d never do & go down on her clit. Couldnt get myself to lick inside her vagina tho.
My goal was to get her more wet and relaxed to open her up more.
Put my tongue in a circular motion around her clit for about 5 minutes. She got more wet and was moaning the whole time.
I tried again with 2 fingers. Fingers were moving slightly better but she was still in pain.
At this point, I’m thinking I better just rip the band aid and put it in already.
But to my surprise, I looked down and wasn’t even hard anymore lol. I was mission focused.
I quickly got hard again tho when i started focusing on her body
Time to put it in
Me: Okay, I’m gonna put it in now
Her: Noo! Its too big
Me: Relax, we’ll take it slow.
Her: Do you have a condom? (I dont)
Me: *Ignoring* Here *I place her hand on my dick* guide it in
As she guides it in, only the tip could fit. With her squirming in pain I could not really bring myself to push it in further.
Her: Noo! Its too big
Me: Relax, we’ll take it slow.
Her: Do you have a condom? (I dont)
Me: *Ignoring* Here *I place her hand on my dick* guide it in
As she guides it in, only the tip could fit. With her squirming in pain I could not really bring myself to push it in further.
I went through this cycle of licking her clit fingering her, then trying my dick for about 20 minutes.
I eventually just gave up and told her to suck me. She said okay and gave me my first BJ.
She kept sucking me for a few minutes. It was a decent bj, but it would take about 10 more minutes for me to cum, and it’s already been 2.5 hours. I just decided to end it there.
We put our clothes on and went back to the front.
Post-Sex
Vibe was lowkey awkward in the car ride home for some reason. My conversational skills are still improving.
Probably should have been doing something I didnt think of. She was asking me questions about if the sex was good, did I come, and why I didn’t have condoms.
I said I enjoyed myself & that I just ran out of condoms. I also lied and said I came. I should have just told the truth but I didnt want to hurt her feelings.
She also said she sucked dick twice before me, but I was the first person she let fuck. I can believe that. I set some pretty good nonjudgemental frames so I doubt she’d lie. Plus I couldnt even get 2 fingers fully inside.
Conversation was comfortable but felt a little flat, like there was no connection involved. I intuitively knew I should be rewarding her more.
I dropped her off at her house and gave her a kiss goodbye. She backed off after a quick kiss and left.
Wasn’t really happy with how that ended. Good thing this blessing in disguise happened:
As I was driving off I realized my phone was incredibly weak, about 8%. It was going to be a 30 minute drive to her house and I needed the GPS
I called her and asked her to let me in to charge the phone. She first suggested I stay outside while she charges it. But with slight convincing on my part she let me in and we snuck by her Mom’s room.
As my phone was charging we cuddled on the bed and talked about random shit. She opened her phone and we spent the next hour+ just watching her old videos, joking around, teasing each other, and enjoying ourselves.
She does peoples hair and is really into having many different hairstyles, so I complimented her hair in the videos. I especially liked her locs hairstyle.
This really fixed my vibe and made it more attainable. (Might be setting the wrong expectations tho, its my first fwb)
I called her and asked her to let me in to charge the phone. She first suggested I stay outside while she charges it. But with slight convincing on my part she let me in and we snuck by her Mom’s room.
As my phone was charging we cuddled on the bed and talked about random shit. She opened her phone and we spent the next hour+ just watching her old videos, joking around, teasing each other, and enjoying ourselves.
She does peoples hair and is really into having many different hairstyles, so I complimented her hair in the videos. I especially liked her locs hairstyle.
This really fixed my vibe and made it more attainable. (Might be setting the wrong expectations tho, its my first fwb)
After a while of us bonding & having fun, I decided to end it first & told her its time for me to go. I took my phone & she walked me out. We kissed goodbye & left
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There’s probably a lot of mistakes I’m not seeing, I’ll leave that to y’all to roast me on.
This LR took place 3am Sunday. We also got together that Sunday afternoon at my house cuz my parents werent home (the 2nd meet has a lot to analyze in and of itself.)
She was still so tight and in so much pain that my conscience couldnt bring itself to let me just thrust in the second time. I bought condoms this time but forgot to get the lube bruh.
Main thing that suprised me about her was how soft and girly she was acting in bed. This girl is more dominant than the chicks I usually mess with. She’s also older than me as well - I’m 18 in high school and shes 19 in college.
Guess I just got sauce
Notes:
- I should probably stop saying things like “take this off” or “take that off” in bed unless I’m fairly sure they’ll do it. (Wasnt in this LR, but I did it in the next time we had sex.) I like commanding girls, and I handle rejection nonchalantly, but it builds negative compliance if they resist.
- I'm pretty mindful of chasey dynamics pre-sex, but I need to keep those in mind during escalation and sex as well. In my mind avoiding chasing kind of just went out the window and I was focused on getting my dick wet any way I can.
- Probably need to watch a few videos on basic sex education regarding the hymen and virginity, cuz I don’t wanna look like I don’t know what I’m doing.
I would also REALLY appreciate advice on how to open a girl up more… cuz that was extremely frustrating. Does it really take that much work to turn a girl on enough to penetrate??
Thanks for reading guys. All tips are appreciated!
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But basically you want to give her a good experience while still minimizing the level of pain so she doesn't have a negative view about sex.
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