My thoughts on kissing at the end of 1st date in case she doesn't go with you

[razir110]

Hi all!

Just want to share my opinion on the part of kissing a girl at the end of the first date.

If you couldn't take her home, you go the kiss because it gives you better chances of getting a second date. I would disagree on this.

You couldn't take her home, now you are sitting int he car at her door, so why kiss her in unfavorable conditions for you? What if she doesn't want it and rejects? You just got burned. If you try to set a 2nd date after that, you are a chaser. Period.

Say you kiss her. Then when you ask her on a second date she will have the full control because she knows you absolutely will try to have sex with her. So she can do whatever she wants with you. Plus, that kiss may become awkward to her over the time you will take to get to the second date.

You kiss her. And so what? She leaves and goes home. Then the sexual tension got released on that kiss. The mystery about you went down and it all becomes a bit romantic and she even may put you in the "potential boyfriend" group. And you don't want that. You want to be in the sexual toy group, right?

Now, if you don't kiss her. It's true that it kinda means that "nothing happened" but at the same time you show that you want to have sex with her and you are not into goodnight-kissy stuff. I think this will make a woman see you as the sexual guy rather than if you go down the way when you settle for a kiss since you didn't get sex.

What do you guys think?

BesT!

 

[KevinWha]

Re: My thoughts on kissing at the end of 1st date in case she doesn't go with yo

Totally agree with you, bro. No need to kiss her on the first date(the reasons above in the post). But in a case, she would try to kiss your fist. What would be the best reaction to this: to be or not to be the first kiss?

 

[razir110]

Re: My thoughts on kissing at the end of 1st date in case she doesn't go with yo

Then kiss her. Otherwise she will feel rejected and your chances are 0. But if she wants to kiss you so bad, why didn't she go home with you then? It's because she doesn't want yo right there, so it's unlikely she will ever refuse to go home with you and then will try to kiss you.

 

[KevinWha]

Re: My thoughts on kissing at the end of 1st date in case she doesn't go with yo

Most likely)

 

[Fuck This]

Re: My thoughts on kissing at the end of 1st date in case she doesn't go with yo

If there is even going to be a second date there will be kissing in the first half of the first date. That kiss will be welcomed and desired. Because the stage will be set with Kino, leading, sensual eye contact, conversation about sexual subjects, etc.

I'll admit it is tough to get from Approach anxiety to the point where you can initiate kino and ramp up the sexual tension. But how is she going to see you in a sexual way if you remain distant and don't communicate your intent?

 

[razir110]

Re: My thoughts on kissing at the end of 1st date in case she doesn't go with yo

@Fuck This

Were you replying to my comment or to the other one? If it was to mine, I didn't get your point, sorry.

Cheers!

 

[KevinWha]

Re: My thoughts on kissing at the end of 1st date in case she doesn't go with yo

But it is not easy to start a conversation on a sexual topic. If you in your head focusing on sex only while during a conversation you're trying to hide it. A fear is that when she realizes your real intention she might go backward.
How to balance these two sides to reach the aim?

 

[Seppuku]

Re: My thoughts on kissing at the end of 1st date in case she doesn't go with yo

@razir,

I am fully on board with you here. I never kiss the girl until I'm just about to fuck her, for exactly all the reasons you describe (well... unless she obviously initiates the make out, hard to refuse in this case, but that's rare.)

I don't understand all these guys whose objective is to "kiss close". Yeah, they will get away with a kiss, and most of the time won't get anywhere else, and then left scratching their heads, "what the hell happened?". You will see many FRs or questions on the Boards around this.

@Kevin

But it is not easy to start a conversation on a sexual topic. If you in your head focusing on sex only while during a conversation you're trying to hide it. A fear is that when she realizes your real intention she might go backward.
How to balance these two sides to reach the aim?

It sounds like the "hiding the banana" syndrome. Like, "I have a banana but I'm hiding it, you'll discover it later by surprise". This strategy doesn't work of course - yet it is the one used by all the AFC of the world. And the one I used to apply back in my days, before I learned the right seduction mindset.

The right attitude of course is "I have a banana, it is in plain sight for everyone to see, and I shove it to your face". In other words, you are a sexual man, not ashamed of being one, completely unapologetic of your sexuality, and you show it. That attitude, if you can pull it off correctly, will get a cloud of girls swirling around you.

Being sexual, by the way, doesn't mean having a conversation on a sexual topic. Well, unless you specifically try the method of Alek, one of the GC writers. But you can also communicate sexuality without specifically talking about sex. Touching her (what they call kino) is one way. Making sexual innuendos (when possible) is another.

Seppuku