FR Number farming at a gallery opening

[topcat]

Fellow creative friend of mine invites me to an opening at his friend’s gallery.

Upon arriving i meet him and another friend of his he’s invited. We shoot the shit, catch up and peruse the art about the place. I’m also scoping out the talent to see if there’s anybody I’d like to talk to..

A few targets but everybody is in these insular groups of 4-5 with their backs turned, locked in. I assume when everybody gets comfortable they’ll open up to their surroundings giving more opportunities for higher odds approaches.

Open #1

30 minutes pass and i’m itching to talk to some female. I’m with my friends friend and as we pass one of the artist’s walls I open up what appears to be the artist by asking if she is indeed her..

She is, so i deep dive her on her work, motivations and meaning behind it all, and qualify her on it. I ask for some candy she has in a bowl on her desk and she offers me some canoli she has stashed away, out of sight.

Chocolate. Pistachio. Vanilla.

I tell her i’m not a very vanilla guy but i’ll take the vanilla for a change. Joke goes over her head..

Whatever we move. I qualify her on something and touch her elbow while i do it. She touches me right back and starts asking me questions. I don’t remember the rest of the conversation but it’s clear she likes me. Her sister (who is also gorgeous, i dare say more so ) saunters over, introduces herself enthusiastically and i take this as my cue to move on for a bit. I’d like to create some space and see if there is more open talent about..

I find my friends, outside and immediately they ask me where i got the canoli, so i introduce them to canoli girl and now she’s on my friend quizzing him. I give them their space, as i find out what other talent the place has to offer…

Open #2: Number close

Some time passes, people are still locked into their relative social groups, but i notice a well dressed, pretty librarian looking girl passing by in an open space between my friend group and another. She looks around as though lost. Her awareness radius is fairly open, and she does a sweep, passing by us a few times while looking up and away.

My spider senses tingle. But she hasn’t passed close enough to make an effortless approach. I open my body to the crowd and open up my awareness to make it easier for her but she goes outside.

Some more time passes while i look at some art and i notice her again in my peripherals. My body language is open and aimed somewhat to the crowd and she takes the signal sweeping past me again but a lot closer this time.

I stop her and compliment her on her outfit. I quiz her on who she is and her relationship to the place. It turns out she works for the gallerist and is also an art director. Awesome, she’s easily qualified. I get to know her a bit while periodically giving her space to see if she’ll close it (she’s pretty deadpan, so i need her to buy in to get an indication of her interest) and resume the conversation which she does each time. Qualify her a few more times then suggest we grab coffee sometime as she seems pretty cool and take her number.

Open #3: Number close

I’m off to socialize some more, when I notice a girl come in. Super confident, yet low key in the way she carries herself. Unique sense of style. Looks like the type of girl you find in industrial techno raves in Berlin. She actually looks like she might DJ or produce techno. Very cool. Balkan or from the Caucasus, or Persian I can’t tell. But she’s my type. Her energy is magnetic and draws me in. I need to talk to her.

It seems she’s a close friend of the first artist i spoke to, and she locks into her friend group. I keep an eye on her for signs of an opening. Keeping my body language open to give her an opportunity to pass me.

Eventually she does, making a beeline towards the door passing where i’m standing. I stop her, compliment her outfit and start asking her about what she does. Artist? Music producer? Creative director - none of these. She’s a product designer from a country in the Caucasus. Excellent. Speaking to her confirms that i in fact do like her so i qualify her. Then we're interrupted...

Another artist, blonde, shapely and hot, who i’d noticed eyeing me a few times in the night but who hadn’t made it easy for me to approach (deep in conversation with her friends) tells us it’s closing time and we need to head outside. I get the sense she did this on purpose…

Anyway I head towards the door, to see if my target will follow she does but then tells me she needs to help her artist friend pack up so i let her go, hang outside and scheme on a new opportunity.

Her and her group eventually come outside but farrrr away from where i’m standing and partly blocked by a wall.

I tell my mate about her, and he immediately beelines towards them and opens the group. I like this guy a lot. I join and am now in a conversation with the first artist i’d initially opened. She’s definitely into me, it’s clear: asking where i live and other things about my life. I’m within eyeshot of my target so I won’t ask for this one’s number, although it’s mine to take. I open up the conversation to her two sisters and it seems they’re all going home as they have an early morning. I slowly slowly make my way over to my target.

I reopen her and she’s warm and we deep dive eachother. I compliment her further on her fashion sense, quiz her on her art and music taste, check out her boots and bend to inspect them, have her show me them, I touch them and inspect the leather. Inspect her jacket. Pull the brim of her cap down to see what it says. Basically invading her space to test her comfort with it. She responds positively, and compliments me on the boots i’m wearing. More deep diving, though i don’t remember the specifics. My friend is locked in with the hottest sister, and i sense everyone is ready to go their separate ways so i grab her number suggesting we grab a drink.

She keeps the conversation thread open with me until our friends split and leave. She waves goodbye to me enthusiastically.

Icebreaker text an hour later:

“[name] it was lovely meeting you today..

btw it’s Topcat save my number”

she responds warmly:

“vice versa

yeah i figured

Enjoy the party!”


…i’ll respond to her in the morning and see about setting up a meetup.

Art director hasn’t responded to my icebreaker. I’ll follow up with her over the weekend and test her interest.

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I do very well at art events, and with creative girls (and those that appreciate art and ideas) that also lean smart (more precisely girls high in trait openness as I too am) and am happy to specialize in them going forward. They also tend to be more kinky and exploratory sexually which is a non-negotiable for me these days.

I’ll be sticking to these, and screening for these during daygame as well.

 

[James Cruse]

I'm not sure how this report (or any of your field reports) are helpful to anyone reading - you don't tell anyone any of the actual spoken dialogue, you simply give a summarised overview of what you think/assume you did and they did, but not actually what you did.

This is common in all the other field reports of yours, that I've read.

The good field reports have most (if not all) actual dialogue spoken along with the actual actions taken.

 

[topcat]

I'm not sure how this report (or any of your field reports) are helpful to anyone reading - you don't tell anyone any of the actual spoken dialogue, you simply give a summarised overview of what you think/assume you did and they did, but not actually what you did.

This is common in all the other field reports of yours, that I've read.

The good field reports have most (if not all) actual dialogue spoken along with the actual actions taken.

I barely remember the dialogue is why.

I’m freestyling when I talk, and I don’t think much of what I say matters compared to the compliance asks, pacing and body positioning.

 

[James Cruse]

I barely remember the dialogue is why.

I’m freestyling when I talk, and I don’t think much of what I say matters compared to the compliance asks, pacing and body positioning.

Yeah, I don't think anyone can become good at seduction if they barely remember what they say and do in those seductions - even when recounting those seductions, a short time after they did them.

I don't think anyone can learn from them either - when someone recounts seductions without most (or all) of the important details enclosed, like the above.

 

[topcat]

Yeah, I don't think anyone can become good at seduction if they barely remember what they say and do in those seduction - even when recounting those seductions, a short time after they did them.

Yeah fair enough. I’m making up the whole thing. Make an appeal to get me demoted.

I don't think anyone can learn from them either - when someone recounts are seduction without most (or all) of the important details enclosed, like the above.

Feel free to help them then.

 

[James Cruse]

I actually think you should write dozens MORE Field Reports where you forget all the dialogue and important details and then I'm sure many people will read and respond to them (just like this one).

Maybe next time you could make it shorter and easier to read, but with the same level of important details like:

"I went to an event, collected a few numbers and none of them have been successful yet"
Finished

Maybe you could try that and get the same responses.

 

[topcat]

I actually think you should write dozens MORE Field Reports where you forget all the dialogue and important details and then I'm sure many people will read and respond to them (just like this one).

Maybe next time you could make it shorter and easier to read, but with the same level of important details like:

"I went to an event, collected a few numbers and none of them have been successful yet"
Finished

Maybe you could try that and get the same responses.

I’ll consider it, thanks for your input. Anything else?

 

[James Cruse]

I'm a virgin that's never approached lol, so no.

This is the most responses you've got to ANY of your posts, it's record breaking.

Do you have anything else or any other advice for me? You're the tribal elder after all.

 

[Will_V]

I barely remember the dialogue is why.

I’m freestyling when I talk, and I don’t think much of what I say matters compared to the compliance asks, pacing and body positioning.

Same I can't remember 80% of what I say, I focus on principles not details.

 

[topcat]

Same I can't remember 80% of what I say, I focus on principles not details.

in set i’m generally just reading, project and responding to “energy”. I’m really just feeling my way through things. Not the easiest to translate that through text especially to more linear thinkers.

 

[Skills]

I will cold read James cruise and topcat had arguments of the forum in the past...if not i apologize... In my defense I said cold read..

 

[Francis]

Raw data dialogue will always help... Good report though. Definitely a lot of great detail. Even with the spoken words, the proof is in the pudding (or canoli), i.e. whatever her action is.

Sounds like a successful night!

I noticed you go straight to screening/qualifying (getting to know her). Are you doing anything to build her interest first, or is that all kind of assumed based on her reaction to your fundamentals and social proof / preselection from being seen approaching, mingling, and spending time in the group before turning attention to her?

Maybe I think in terms of M3 too much, but basically "what's your A2"?

 

[topcat]

I noticed you go straight to screening/qualifying (getting to know her). Are you doing anything to build her interest first, or is that all kind of assumed based on her reaction to your fundamentals and social proof / preselection from being seen approaching, mingling, and spending time in the group before turning attention to her?

If I am, it’s not intentional.

I just assume a girl will show interest eventually if she is, i just focus on finding out if i can have a pleasant interaction with her and if she’s interesting to me.

I check her interest in me by testing her comfort with proximity and touch, and by introducing pauses and physical space for her to close.

If she fills these spaces I know she’s somewhat interested, so i’ll ask for the number before it feels like the conversation is dying (the high point i guess)…

Intentionally building interest feels tryhard to me. I’m more just interested in having a positive, stimulating interaction which if a girl is willing to have with me at least somewhat, then i’ll genuinely be interested in seeing her again..

Amuse/stimulate/seduce myself with her, rather than TRY to amuse/stimulate/seduce her.


Also, I focus on screening because based on past experiences there are now many things that give me the ‘ick’ and i want to avoid any girl that might trigger these in me no matter how she looks.

 

[Francis]

ok forgive my real time learning, but things are starting to come together...

so it's a trade-off of time to find baseline mutual initial interest among many vs. time to seduce individually

if she is

focus on finding out

check her interest in me

If she fills these spaces I know she’s somewhat interested

Amuse/stimulate/seduce myself with her, rather than TRY to amuse/stimulate/seduce her

focus on screening

so it's like
-Roy Valentine's the System (a foundational Chase influence)
-Chase social momentum, meet a lot of people and see who physically moves with you
-60 Years of Challenge screen through physical game to find "your number" 1/x approaches ratio
-Velasco/Spike traffic light (60 book also has lights)

and don't care if she likes you or not (forget A2) vs. concept of actively seducing a target. seduce through getting compliance, sexual energy

very law of least effort, wu wei, you are the prize

I dig it.

Intentionally building interest feels tryhard to me

yes there are even diagrams

 

[James Cruse]

I will cold read James cruise and topcat had arguments of the forum in the past...if not i apologize... In my defense I said cold read..

Raw data dialogue will always help... Good report though. Definitely a lot of great detail. Even with the spoken words, the proof is in the pudding (or canoli), i.e. whatever her action is.

Contrary to what it says above (and I'm certain Chase will get onboard with this idea):

I don't think anyone should write any of the dialogue they say in any of their Field Reports.

It's far too difficult for any adult to remember what two people spoke about for an hour or less, when recounting it a few days (or less) after the fact, right?

I would go further and say that everyone should do what Topcat does (especially when they're Tribal Elders):

Only write a summary of what he thinks, assumes and his intentions for what he said - not what was actually said. That's more brief AND more useful, I think. It makes the Field Report more authentic and realistic that way (it's how we know it really happened after all).

I also think the Tribal Elders here should set an example of never writing any dialogue ever, and continue doing this. Let's remove all dialogue for Field Reports and seductions lads.

We know women literally don't care about the words we say or we don't care about their words in seduction - that's how women's brains are structured (not caring about words). So let's all defocus on dialogue and words and what we say to women, it's irrelevant, as Topcat (rightly) says above.

I truly believe this forum will be elevated by nobody ever including any dialogue in their field reports, because words and dialogue is no longer important in seduction.

 

[topcat]

ok forgive my real time learning, but things are starting to come together...

so it's a trade-off of time to find baseline mutual initial interest among many vs. time to seduce individually

Man i guess so, I don’t really think if it so deeply. I just know viscerally I don’t want a boring, low openness vanilla chick who watches soap operas all day and thinks contemporary art or performance art is pretentious bs. Or whose favourite place to shop is shein or h&m. Or favourite place to travel is [name typical tourist trap on the beaten path/beach]. Who lacks creativity, is super agreeable, kinda dumb or rigid, & conventional.

No matter how hot she is I’d like to avoid banging another one of those..

 

[OldGuy]

The hotter sister coming in is so typical! When you approach a lower SMV member of the group, the higher SMV one will often move in to try to take over.

 

[Francis]

Man i guess so, I don’t really think if it so deeply. I just know viscerally I don’t want a boring, low openness vanilla chick who watches soap operas all day and thinks contemporary art or performance art is pretentious bs. Or whose favourite place to shop is shein or h&m. Or favourite place to travel is [name typical tourist trap on the beaten path/beach]. Who lacks creativity, is super agreeable, kinda dumb or rigid, & conventional.

No matter how hot she is I’d like to avoid banging another one of those..

A man who knows what he wants. It's pretty interesting really cause it's different from other screening that is focused on finding someone interested, but you flip the script to completely screening her. And given all your online success I know there is no way you are coming in with supplicating nice guy vibes.

With the time thing though, I'm thinking more in large venues where it's like "get out of my way, I have 10 more girls to open if you're not down". It's the Spike stuff again... If you see a girl of interest who isn't initially compliant, she's out of scope of the game plan. Which is funny cause he has old posts referencing M3 stages.

But yeah your game is cool... Very self amusing and prizability.

Using a lot of chase framing might be a good fit to try. Just a thought!

 

[topcat]

Using a lot of chase framing might be a good fit to try. Just a thought!

Funny you mention this. It’s actually part of my gameplan going forward. It’s not something i’ve done intentionally in the past so I’ll be experimenting..but yeah, good call on that.

Also implementing flirting in ways that screen for what i’m looking for:

Say a girl looks attractive but in talking to her seems a little innocent or vanilla -

“you seem cool, and hardworking and all, but i get the feeling you might be too [innocent/vanilla/square] for me”.

Things to that tune, but obviously said in a way that is clearly playful and encourages her to reveal attractive sides to her that aren’t obvious in her interests or vibe.

Will be testing this on my next approachees.

 

[topcat]

With the time thing though, I'm thinking more in large venues where it's like "get out of my way, I have 10 more girls to open if you're not down".

Oh nah, i’m not really in a hurry to meet anybody tbh, as anybody won’t do..

It’s about who i’ll get the best immersive experience from overall, sexual, sensually and existentially, rather than a simple pretty place to rest my dick. I’ve done enough of that to the point i’m bored of it.