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Since getting into learning game and taking a strategic approach to sleeping with women about 7 years ago, I’ve had many discussions with others on the same quest. I’ve watched their progress and talked about the nature of the game with them. And I’ve noticed commonalities between those who make legitimate progress in upping their quantity and quality of women compared to those who seemingly mentally masturbate themselves into ending up with an only slightly hotter girlfriend. And the main difference between those who make real strides and those who do not get much better, is that those who really started getting more, hotter girls are the ones who made the most strides in making themselves more attractive.
Now, from far away this seems pretty obvious. Girls like hotter guys. But this fact is often lost on guys who get so deep into the study and obsession with game that they neglect working on their attraction, and seem to cripple themselves by trying to gain all their success through the skill of their craft. This leads them to getting a higher quantity of girls, but does not really improve their quality all too much.
The way I like to look at it is that there is a top quality of women you can sleep with, and then there is how many of those top quality women you are able to sleep with. Who you are relates to the former and your game relates to the latter. You can have the smoothest game in the world, but unless you improve your fundamentals you won’t have access to the highest level of women. As an analogy, say you’re an incredible fishermen and you are an absolute expert with whatever lure and gear you’re working with, but you stick with the same lure and spinning rod the whole time. Sure, you’re going to be able to catch whatever quality fish that are interested in this lure pretty much automatically. However, catching better fish is all about upgrading your rod and your tackle. You may hook a marlin on inferior bait every once in a while, but it would be a God damn miracle if you bring it in. Whereas guys with great tackle but less skill have a far better chance at that same fish. The people I have seen who end up getting the hotter girls, and more of them, are those who makes strides in improving their fishing gear – their fundamentals.
The specific aspects of attractiveness I have seen make the most difference for these people are the following:
looks – physical fitness – guys who get big muscles are viewed as higher status by other guys and also as higher status and as more attractive by other girls (and this doubles up if high status guys in a certain circle tend to have big muscles because if you have big muscles you’re subconsciously lumped in with them, which is good)
stylish clothing and clothing that represents someone who is high status in a certain social circle (changes from circle to circle)
confident posture and voice – I think dominant loudness and projection is something to be worked on until you hit that utmost top level
oftentimes very importantly social status - making friends with the right people in large social systems can get you laid simply by association. I have seen attractive girls latch onto guys with no apparent game or good looks simply because they are hanging out with the cool kids, and despite the being very hot they don’t feel they’re cool enough so they fuck a guy hoping it will get them where they want to be socially.
And lastly, people who seem like they’re having a good time. I think the value of showing you’re having a good time and things are going well for you in life is very important. I think that is a huge indicator in value and I see it in pretty much all all the guys I know who are very successful with women. The only people I do not see it in who get a lot of women are those who are legitimately unhappy, dark, anxious people who I would not want to be anyways.
Learning game is very important. Your process, knowing how to take the lead of a woman who is interested and take her to your bed, these are vital. But I see too many guys obsess on this technical aspect only to see their looks, vibe, status, and overall attractiveness fall away. And I used to be one of them. I’d go out to bars with flat emotions and a deadpan look, strategizing, not having fun. It clicked for me one day what I was missing – a refocus on improving fundamentals and increasing the right kind of energy. And after readjusting my priorities, I hit a new level and am now getting the girls that I have most wanted more consistently. Luckily, we are on a site that provides the tools to take us to this next level. This is simply a healthy reminder that it is far more important to improve your attractiveness as a human WHILE you are improving your game via real world trial and error.
Thanks for reading.
AI
Now, from far away this seems pretty obvious. Girls like hotter guys. But this fact is often lost on guys who get so deep into the study and obsession with game that they neglect working on their attraction, and seem to cripple themselves by trying to gain all their success through the skill of their craft. This leads them to getting a higher quantity of girls, but does not really improve their quality all too much.
The way I like to look at it is that there is a top quality of women you can sleep with, and then there is how many of those top quality women you are able to sleep with. Who you are relates to the former and your game relates to the latter. You can have the smoothest game in the world, but unless you improve your fundamentals you won’t have access to the highest level of women. As an analogy, say you’re an incredible fishermen and you are an absolute expert with whatever lure and gear you’re working with, but you stick with the same lure and spinning rod the whole time. Sure, you’re going to be able to catch whatever quality fish that are interested in this lure pretty much automatically. However, catching better fish is all about upgrading your rod and your tackle. You may hook a marlin on inferior bait every once in a while, but it would be a God damn miracle if you bring it in. Whereas guys with great tackle but less skill have a far better chance at that same fish. The people I have seen who end up getting the hotter girls, and more of them, are those who makes strides in improving their fishing gear – their fundamentals.
The specific aspects of attractiveness I have seen make the most difference for these people are the following:
looks – physical fitness – guys who get big muscles are viewed as higher status by other guys and also as higher status and as more attractive by other girls (and this doubles up if high status guys in a certain circle tend to have big muscles because if you have big muscles you’re subconsciously lumped in with them, which is good)
stylish clothing and clothing that represents someone who is high status in a certain social circle (changes from circle to circle)
confident posture and voice – I think dominant loudness and projection is something to be worked on until you hit that utmost top level
oftentimes very importantly social status - making friends with the right people in large social systems can get you laid simply by association. I have seen attractive girls latch onto guys with no apparent game or good looks simply because they are hanging out with the cool kids, and despite the being very hot they don’t feel they’re cool enough so they fuck a guy hoping it will get them where they want to be socially.
And lastly, people who seem like they’re having a good time. I think the value of showing you’re having a good time and things are going well for you in life is very important. I think that is a huge indicator in value and I see it in pretty much all all the guys I know who are very successful with women. The only people I do not see it in who get a lot of women are those who are legitimately unhappy, dark, anxious people who I would not want to be anyways.
Learning game is very important. Your process, knowing how to take the lead of a woman who is interested and take her to your bed, these are vital. But I see too many guys obsess on this technical aspect only to see their looks, vibe, status, and overall attractiveness fall away. And I used to be one of them. I’d go out to bars with flat emotions and a deadpan look, strategizing, not having fun. It clicked for me one day what I was missing – a refocus on improving fundamentals and increasing the right kind of energy. And after readjusting my priorities, I hit a new level and am now getting the girls that I have most wanted more consistently. Luckily, we are on a site that provides the tools to take us to this next level. This is simply a healthy reminder that it is far more important to improve your attractiveness as a human WHILE you are improving your game via real world trial and error.
Thanks for reading.
AI
