Online Game & Dating | Advice Needed

[HiddenLurker]

Hello fellow seducers,

I know online dating isn't ideal, daygame/nightgame should be the standard but let's just say I don't have sufficient time/energy at this phase in life to do that just yet. As of now I am just relying on online dating (Tinder, Coffee Meets Bagel, etc) to get my "leads" and I need advice on this. A few weeks ago, I couldn't even get attractive-enough girls to match with me, let alone reply me. Right now, I'm able to get quite a lot of matches each day and I've learnt some texting game which has resulted in lengthier conversations in general, and I know how to make them better laugh etc.

The (huge) problem now is, every time I ask girls out after a few texts (because you have to move fast, attraction dies out, etc), they seem to instantly ghost me even if the conversation seemed excellent before. And when I say excellent, I mean the "correct moves" have been deployed - some form of deep diving, emotional connecting over meaningful topics, flirting with them and even making them laugh, all within a few texts to make sure I'm not one of those guys who talks endlessly and doesn't know how to move forward.

This is the line I generally use some variant of "let's hang out to grab a bite and a drink, how's your schedule next week looking like?" after I feel that I'm making them laugh, on an emotional high, etc.

This literally just happened with 2 girls (and lots more previously) I was so warm with - there was flirting, laughter and even their texts were longer than mine. But the moment I asked them out, they didn't reply me anymore. What gives? My theory is that online dating requires more messages (not 3-4 exchanges which was what I was using) since you already lack the warmth that day/night game allows you to show. In other words, for online dating, you can't be too fast, but can't be too slow either.

Therefore:
(a) What was the problem?
(b) How do you do online game?
(c) When do you actually ask the girl out for online game (no prior real life contact yet)?

If anybody has any advice and success with online dating, please let me know. I am getting exhausted/frustrated trying to constantly test to find the loopholes in my methods, but to no avail. Edit: for more context, I am in South East Asia so girls here are probably more conservative as well.

Thanks,
S.

 

[JacobPalmer]

Yeah, 3-4 exchanges is not enough time. They need more comfort than that unless they are explicitly dtf, and even then it's gotta be a bit more. Fast is relative, all she has to do is feel something for you (hard over text but whatever, that's tinder). If you want some examples of text game look up a few of my LRs, they are all from online game to give you a better understanding.

That being said, my text game still has room for improvement.

 

[HiddenLurker]

Yeah, 3-4 exchanges is not enough time. They need more comfort than that unless they are explicitly dtf, and even then it's gotta be a bit more. Fast is relative, all she has to do is feel something for you (hard over text but whatever, that's tinder). If you want some examples of text game look up a few of my LRs, they are all from online game to give you a better understanding.

That being said, my text game still has room for improvement.

Thanks for the help Jacob. I'll continue experimenting and share findings in the near future.

I've another question. Would it be better to get her out directly from there, or get personal number/ID onto another medium and then proceed to ask her out from there?

I.e. Tinder -> ask her out
OR Tinder -> Telegram (all girls use it here) -> ask her out

I have a girl that we've hit it off well, and I want to ask her out but isn't it odd to ask girls out without getting "personal" first? Such as her giving her number/Telegram ID (which is kinda like a signal of consent to take it forward).

I'll slowly read through your reports

 

[Fuck This]

Getting a communication medium beyond the OLD platform is a good indicator of her interest. It will weed out a lot of the Looky-Loos...

 

[Fluxcapacitor]

Never done online so more a question than an answer but wouldn't it work like normal get a date set up then get better contact details? It gives ya a purpose to get her number an makes sense.

Yes getting other contact details is a sign of interest but ya have to talk a bit more in the different medium even just 3 - 5 messages. Otherwise it looks like ya excited ya got her number if ya ask her out on the first message.

Different mediums are used to re frame an re set interactions. A remember reading if ya texts aren't working give her a call.

Just a thought dude's

 

[JacobPalmer]

Yes just make the transition smooth. I usually go for the # once we're at the date planning stage. Well get to something like:

Her: sure wine sounds great
Me: Great, shoot me your number for romantic date planning purposes.

that's usually how I do it anyway. There's always exceptions.