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Thumper

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Even as a new member of the forum it didn't take long before I started noticing a lot of negativity in some of the threads, the bulk of which seems to stem from one individual in particular. I've seen some of the threads where more experienced members graciously offered their advice before giving up in frustration and frankly I'm impressed they had as much patience as they did. Once I noticed the pattern I just stopped reading his posts altogether.
 

alexlaguma

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Hey guys,

Sorry to revisit this topic again. But is it just me or does anyone else feel this way too?

Recently, I think the forum is taking a turn for the worse. You have some posters who are starting threads and posting numerous messages per day which is filled with negativity, venting, doom and gloom, complaining, reinforcing and trying to impose and get justifications for their limiting beliefs.

As I see it many of them have problems that are outside the scope of seduction and probably need theraputic intervention. They seem to lack even the most basic social awareness and have no clue about how they are coming across.

The experienced and senior members have over and over again on many threads given them advice and encouragement but all they seem to do is double down on their beliefs and reinforce them with every new experience they have.

I know you always had people like this on forums but I feel the ratio is beginning to tilt. There are 9 low value, venting type posts to 1 good quality post.

In fact guys who actually post something from the field hardly get any engagement. They have 1 or 2 replies whereas guys posting about how hard it is for them, how bad their night was, how brutal it is out there etc get pages and pages of low quality back and forth arguments.

This forum had great stuff even like a year ago. I believe it really is the last truly seduction oriented active forum out there. But I see the same redpill, negativity, black pill colored stuff taking over here as it has already transpired on YT and other platforms.

Seriously nowadays you hardly see an inspiring post here and skimming through the new posts section is filled with venting and complaining type posts.

I just wanted to write this here because I think this forum has given me a lot and has helped me immensely on my cold approach journey over the last 2 years. I am very grateful for that and in turn I have tried to give back as much value as I can from my own experiences to help people on here who genuinely were looking for help and taking action with a positive attitude.

Special thanks go out to @Skills @Chase @Atlas IV @alexlaguma @DoWhatWorks @topcat @Stark (who seems to have disappeared) @Warped Mindless @Will_V @James D and some others I might have forgotten to mention. You guys have provided massive value and inspired me.

Also to the genuine action takers like @gameboy @ChrisXKiss @bkw @barneystin @Aussiedude and several others, I have had great fun reading your exploits and going back and forth with you about this whole cold approach malarkey. 😀

I am also calling you all out to ask you guys if you also feel the way I do about what has been going on on this forum of late and shift that I have noticed.

Because if not, then I know its just me. And if its just me then I need to probably part ways with this forum for a while and do an internal audit.

But honestly these days just reading the new and most replied to posts depletes me of energy due to the negativity, complaining and venting that is going on in each of them.

Makes me wonder if I am on a pickup forum or some blackpill/redpill whatever venting forum.

Pickup and seduction as I see it is a place for outliers who refuse to abide by the limitations that society and the masses places on us and who want to rebel against that and get success against the odds and enjoy results that are mostly out of the reach of common men.

Its a sad thing to see that in this niche place where we take pride in winning against all odds regardless of the hand we are dealt in life and making the best use of our circumstances. Nowadays it seems to have turned into a breeding ground for validation of limiting beliefs, negativity and complaining.

Looking to hear your thoughts and hoping that this forum does not end up on the trajectory I feel its heading towards and instead can continue to remain the last bastion of guys who are not content with being normal and instead are inspiring each other to grow and improve and get the results they desire. 😎

Thanks for the shoutout.

I think these guys could learn a lot from taking a look at your journal and how you have approached things.

I have stopped engaging a little bit with the forum. That is partly because I'm seeing less inspiring posts / journals (like yours!) and more of the 'woe is me' nonsense.

Echo your sentiments about this forum - its been a great help for me. Would be a shame to see some of the top guys disappear / post less because of this.
 

gameboy

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Personally I used to find these threads interesting, but got tired of the drama. So I put a few people on my ignore list. So I guess i'm in the "indifferent" camp.
 

Skills

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I am sorry this has nothing to do with being low momentum. I spent an entire year getting over AA starting with just asking for directions to slowly transitioning over to direct. In that entire year of regular action taking I got 1 date.

1 date for an entire year!!! Nothing more!

So you are saying that should have naturally led me to posting over and over again telling people my sob story and complaining and moaning. And not only that but being rude to the very people who are trying to help you and convincing them that in fact I am right and they are wrong???

I am sorry you are excusing inexcusable behavior by calling it low momentum. It has nothing to do with their momentum they have a deeper problem that cannot be solved on a seduction board.

Guy has 5 dates in 2 weeks and you call that low momentum? Come on give me a break. 😂😂
You editorialize what i wrote..i helped downers, dom and gloom guys.. couple of them students that eventually got it... And dod great @HeartOfChaos is coming out of a rough break up and got 5 dates, no dick in pussy, that is low momentum... facepalm!
 

topcat

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i object to kicking averagedaygamer becuase i want to know what happens with this young girl he's been texting.
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AspiringStoic

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You editorialize what i wrote..i helped downers, dom and gloom guys.. couple of them students that eventually got it... And dod great @HeartOfChaos is coming out of a rough break up and got 5 dates, no dick in pussy, that is low momentum... facepalm!
Well sure, if you think you can help them and they are going to listen to you and do a 180 on their beliefs then I wish you all the best and admire your desire to help them.

And if you think that that kind venting and complaining is normal, acceptable and not out of place and you dont mind the forum being filled with that kind of stuff, then yup we just have different preferences on what we like to read on a daily basis.

And I am happy to bow out. That is why I wrote the post. To see if its a "me" problem or if a lot of people feel this way.
 

average_daygamer

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average_daygamer and heartofchaos are the ones at top of mind. knownuniverse hadnt hit my radar as yet.
I don't even live in London. If I lived in London, I would have got laid years ago.

If you are such a genius, why don't you meetup and show me how it's done?
 

AspiringStoic

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I don't even live in London. If I lived in London, I would have got laid years ago.

If you are such a genius, why don't you meetup and show me how it's done?
Lol. Talk about digging one's own grave.

This post shows the absolute lack of social awareness that comes out in every one of these posts.

But well, if people think this kind of posts are normal and to be expected. Then I guess there is nothing to discuss. The forum is heading in a wonderful direction. 👏👏
 

average_daygamer

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Lol. Talk about digging one's own grave.

This post shows the absolute lack of social awareness that comes out in every one of these posts.

But well, if people think this kind of posts are normal and to be expected. Then I guess there is nothing to discuss. The forum is heading in a wonderful direction. 👏👏

If you have infinite volume in a city the size of London, you can build the skillset much more quickly. It's just common sense!
 
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AspiringStoic

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If you have infinite volume in a city the size of London, you can build the skillset much more quickly. It's just common sense!
Yes buddy. Thanks for enlightening all of us. We know you would have gotten laid if only you lived in London, if you lived in Vegas you would seduced more women than Charlie Sheen.

Its not you. Its your city, modern women, modern times, the bouncers, the stupid nightclubs, the idiotic girls, the little things they put on their bags, the working class girls, modern laws, your age, your looks, us idiots who dont know what we are talking about......

Its not you!

Everything else is to blame for you not getting laid. The world works very hard everyday to make sure average daygamer does not get laid.

There you go. Happy now?
 

AspiringStoic

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This is just a joke at this point. If after the posts on this thread people still think this all fine, then great. 😄

I just know this is not the place for me anymore.

Let @Chase @Skills and the other elders decide. I have expressed what I wanted to. Seen that many others also have felt the same. Now its upto them. 🤷‍♂

I could instead go watch reality tv if I wanted this kind of drama and people threatening physical violence.

Reminds me of the red pill guys all over YT getting butthurt and challenging each other to a fight. 😆

I see we have reached the same point on this forum.
 
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