LR pulled EE girl from after hour club

[Swati]

This Friday, I managed to add an after-hours spot. I met up with my friend at a different club, hooked a girl outside, and brought her in. I met my friends inside, and it was instant social proof.

I came from another club, arrived at the one my friends were at, and hooked this very beautiful girl. Unfortunately, she said she had a boyfriend, but she was very friendly—put her arms around me like a gentleman angles his arm for a lady. She held on to me as we walked inside together.

I tried to escalate a little, but she was pretty resistant. Her whole motive for bringing me inside was probably just to have me walk her in. She likely enjoyed talking to me, but she was extremely friendly overall.

Originally, it was a group of three girls. The other two left, leaving me alone with her, which I thought was interesting. Nevertheless, she left, and I went home with nothing.

We transitioned to another spot, this time with another girl who was apparently a friend of my friends. We spoke in a different language and were just friendly overall.

But she got quite defensive. She had her hair in a bun, and I told her she could be a little more feminine with it. She got very pissed. That was a verbal escalation that didn't go well.
Sometimes I like to fuck around with people without knowing their calibration, but I didn't really care.

She got butt hurt, detached from the conversation, and left.

So I went to talk to some other girls inside. I fucked around, didn't execute much just lightly teased some groups. Didn't see much potential, went outside.

But when I went outside, I saw this beautiful, blue-eyed girl heading to another place. I stopped her, asked if she was coming from a different party—I forgot exactly what I said—but I spoke a bit of her language and got a hook. She seemed quite interested, a little standoffish (which I kind of like), but I could tell there was lingering interest.

I maintained strong eye contact and didn't look away. Side note: She told me my voice was the most attractive quality about me initially, though she said I wasn't cute (later claiming it was a joke).

I told her we were going to an after-party, and she asked where. I said it's at my house—which probably wouldn't have worked alone—but I added that she could leave anytime, I'd get her an Uber or taxi if she wasn't comfortable. I also invited two other friends, including a new wing who was cool (he bought me a drink).

I invited them along, but they said no, they were going to eat Korean food. They didn't explicitly invite me because they saw me with the girl. It would have complicated things anyway, so I didn't mind. I'll see them another day.

The girl was pretty compliant—we were holding hands. I knew it was in the bag because her compliance was high. She was by herself, had come out from the club away from her friends (she was actually going to meet another friend at a different spot), and I pulled her back.

I expected a lot more LMR, but there wasn't much. One key sign of attraction: she took my alcohol and started drinking it herself. I didn't care, but it's usually a strong indicator—girls are hesitant to do that if they're not attracted. This one gave very clear IOIs.

After that, she came over. We sat, talked for a bit, and she told me her count was three digits to 100+. I was shocked at the moment, but given her age (early-30s), it adds up mathematically: if she's been active for 10 years and averages one guy a month, that's about the number.

There wasn't much LMR, just some token resistance at first. She said she needed to acclimate a little.

My mistake: I spent Saturday with her. She stayed over for more than 40 hours, and we banged seven or eight times.

She had high expectations for sex and was expressive about how most guys are small or bad in bed. I managed to satisfy her, and I’m happy about it. She was a bit clingy, but whatever.

 

[Skills]

You do have good voice!

- yeah be careful with negs, backhanded complements and the like does not work well now a days with most women...

 

[Skills]

Downplaying, verbally abusing women is a straight up malicious advice from the rough early 2010-s. Times have changed, and honesty will have very large importance in the New Ages.

i don't know what you are talking about, nobody ever taught "verbally abusing women" and i read pretty much every seduction book...

 

[Ratata]

Thank you for this great LR! You handled a messy night well and still got the result. With that baseline in place, here are some spots where tightening might improve things.

Teasing is only leverage when attraction and comfort already exist (especially in this day and age...). IOW you burned that set by telling her that she should be more feminine. Doing that has very little upside while it has an almost bottomless downside. In other words, you took a big risk with very little reward at play.

IMHO you also wasted time with that taken girl. It's not a big deal though. Often girls are taken one second and naked the next... But when you get the IHABF call up-front, it's usually better to excuse yourself sooner rather than later. OTOH it's always nice to be seen with a cute girl on your hand.

Also, you already noted this yourself, but... Spending more than 40 hours together and having sex seven or eight times in a row accelerates emotional bonding. It inflates expectations and often leads to clinginess, which you already noticed.

With that said, I much prefer long weekends like that to short encounters. I like a full dinner, not just an entre. I'm sure BD would have a few enlightening remarks here also, if he's still around.

The final pull worked, but it leaned heavily on favourable conditions: she was alone, logistics were clean, and compliance was already high. That's effective but also slightly fragile. And we're going for anti-fragile here ^^ If any of those variables had shifted, friction would likely have increased and the pull might not have landed as smoothly.

A more robust approach is to introduce micro-isolation earlier in the interaction. Brief pauses, small directional changes, or momentary stops create subtle checkpoints that test compliance before fully committing to the pull. This stress-tests interest in advance and makes the eventual transition feel natural and inevitable rather than dependent on ideal circumstances.

OTOH, looking for those lone wolves is an art all on it's own. When it comes down to it, the most important thing is that you managed to navigate a messy an chaotic night and still land the lay. Love to see it!

 

[Swati]

Thank you for this great LR! You handled a messy night well and still got the result. With that baseline in place, here are some spots where tightening might improve things.

Teasing is only leverage when attraction and comfort already exist (especially in this day and age...). IOW you burned that set by telling her that she should be more feminine. Doing that has very little upside while it has an almost bottomless downside. In other words, you took a big risk with very little reward at play.

IMHO you also wasted time with that taken girl. It's not a big deal though. Often girls are taken one second and naked the next... But when you get the IHABF call up-front, it's usually better to excuse yourself sooner rather than later. OTOH it's always nice to be seen with a cute girl on your hand.

Also, you already noted this yourself, but... Spending more than 40 hours together and having sex seven or eight times in a row accelerates emotional bonding. It inflates expectations and often leads to clinginess, which you already noticed.

With that said, I much prefer long weekends like that to short encounters. I like a full dinner, not just an entre. I'm sure BD would have a few enlightening remarks here also, if he's still around.

The final pull worked, but it leaned heavily on favourable conditions: she was alone, logistics were clean, and compliance was already high. That's effective but also slightly fragile. And we're going for anti-fragile here ^^ If any of those variables had shifted, friction would likely have increased and the pull might not have landed as smoothly.

A more robust approach is to introduce micro-isolation earlier in the interaction. Brief pauses, small directional changes, or momentary stops create subtle checkpoints that test compliance before fully committing to the pull. This stress-tests interest in advance and makes the eventual transition feel natural and inevitable rather than dependent on ideal circumstances.

OTOH, looking for those lone wolves is an art all on it's own. When it comes down to it, the most important thing is that you managed to navigate a messy an chaotic night and still land the lay. Love to see it!

I definitely should be calibrating correctly, when they aren't to be escalated on I could just use them as social proof n get other hot girl while they're with me. Day before this I had a shortie with me, came and partied with us, friendly n etc, didn't let me escalate, helped me with pulled, the pull ended up being with wildcard... we ejected lol

But yea man, I need to be more flexible in strategy, when I have these type of opportunities.

Brief pauses, small directional changes, or momentary stops create subtle checkpoints that test compliance before fully committing to the pull. This stress-tests interest in advance and makes the eventual transition feel natural and inevitable rather than dependent on ideal circumstances.

These things all happened, I recalled the taxi because I called it at the wrong place, walked in the wrong direction, held hands and walked through a sea of people, was told to not lean on people's Mercedes, chatted with my 2 wing/friends, telling her to cancel her taxi to meeting another friend and etc.... I forgot add the details. but these all high compliance signs.

she likely lingered in my line of vision. yea compliance was high, due to a couple factors, being her type, it was during last hour at the club etc, one those situation where I "found" attraction and sexual prizing in her eye to my favor to be blunt, also DHV'd.

her staying over was a rare case it won't happen often

 

[Swati]

- yeah be careful with negs, backhanded complements and the like does not work well now a days with most women...

LOL, I'm sometimes a troll, blow the attainability, she got even tho, hinted at me being "ugly"

You do have good voice!

thanks dude haha

 

[Swati]

Follow up on this stupid bitch that has a lot of problems. A bit funny, because these were the type of girls Gunwitch talked about wrestling for power/frame when he was seeing them in witch15 hahaha,

Around 4 or 5 a.m., she calls me, texts me, messages saying she's at a club close to my place. She's hollering, saying to meet her, blah blah blah. She called me a couple times but I couldn't hear what she said because the club was loud. It's loud music and stuff. I arrive at the club, which is filled with a bunch of morons doing the whippets. It's an inhalant drug with nitrous oxide or some shit.

I arrive and I couldn't find her. This dumb bitch was drunk and out of her mind, type of high and drunk. She was in a situation where there was a bunch of guys. These after hours places, not just a regular after-hour, this was like a drug after hours place where they had nitrous oxide and the people were weird. I never even heard of this fucking club, given how long I've been around here. It's a piece-of-shit garbage club with people that I just want to avoid.

I went inside, yelled at her to get her attention because it was so loud. Then this stupid bitch at her table told me to apologize to a random guy I was nearby. I tried to ignore her and just went about my way. Then she was causing some trouble, and I ultimately just left because I thought that place was filled with a bunch of fucking losers and a bunch of weirdos. FYI, this place closes at nine in the morning, so you know these are not places that normal people would go.

One thing led to another. I left and had some fucking people offering me the nitrous oxide at another table, but I got annoyed at the amount of losers there are in the fucking club.

I was walking, this fucking stupid bitch chased after me and tried to get me to go back. She started acting like a bitch, why are you acting like a bitch? I wanted to fucking break her fucking face, she just went through some fucking dental surgery and I didn't want to hurt her even more because she had like a crown put on to her root canal. BTW she shouldn't be drinking or smoking, doing drugs, which slows the recovery

I walked home, basically it was around 10 minutes of walking, and her chasing after me this whole time. It would have sucked for me to lose this bitch after I went to go see her, just because there was a bunch of fucking guys that were just waiting for a window to bang her.

The thing is, dealing with these type of girls, I don't know how to put words on it, but I certainly wanted to experience what they would actually do. She's not only an alcoholic, which she told me she drank like seven cocktails or six that day, and she went to a drug bar, which is funny, drug bar

I've been in night game for quite and to come across like a fucking unicorn like this, it's not a common occurrence. I'm a night gamer myself and I've been a club promoter. These things do exist but it has to be specific places, and they'd have to have like some weird fucked-up experiences with men that made them that way.

Ultimately I brought her back, I wanted to bang, but it's not just all about banging. I want to see what would actually happen. I was actually quite pissed, I wanted to just fucking leave, not talk to her again. she chased after me this whole time and she was fucking throwing a temper tantrum like on the street. She fell to the floor like three times, yelling, and she dropped her phone the dumb bitch was drunk. I think she was acting this way to get my attention, just to get me mad, so I could pay attention to her more. It's kind of childish, but at the same time I kind of understand the motive of why she's doing this.

Then the next day, after I bang her, after a couple hours she went back to the same club because she lost, she left her vape at the fucking drug bar. And she came back again.

Obviously I didn't care about having a long-term relationship, she's always hinting at it, if a man should just pay for my stuff I am a princess or whatever, I'm a girl, blah blah blah.

So I told her that if she bangs another guy, I would not see her again. I have no emotions attached to these things. If she's looking to explore, she's more than open to doing so, I'm not going to be a part of that. There's something to guys that just won't accept like this cucking ritual type of scenario. some guys don't mind, especially if it's a friends-with-benefits type or situationship. As for me, I won't accept it.

she told me was one of her boyfriends proposed an open relationship, and during the open relationship she got fucked a bunch of times and the guy couldn't get any girls, which I find hilarious, to be honest.

But the girl is probably wounded by that situation. same time, she doesn't have that much of a support system, and she fetishizes people of my background.

So this, I'm sure every girl I think has some degree of cluster B, maybe cluster B could be developed over time just because how much trauma a woman can handle. trauma could build up man. it doesn't really work the same for girls. could be a whole new study in and of itself.

Whereas the woman, after a period of time not being in a long committed relationship, she will seek satisfaction in avenues of life, whether that's sex, drugs, alcohol.

hope you enjoyed reading

 

[Skills]

women will call when they are drunk or on drugs in the middle of the night.... After hours is full of druggies which is why i don't like after hour clubs plus sausage fests....

I don't understand why you are angry with a drunk/high girl acting accordingly... I personally avoid this situations because you go into baby sitting mode and i don't like sex with women drunk or on drugs...

 

[Swati]

women will call when they are drunk or on drugs in the middle of the night.... After hours is full of druggies which is why i don't like after hour clubs plus sausage fests....

I don't understand why you are angry with a drunk/high girl acting accordingly... I personally avoid this situations because you go into baby sitting mode and i don't like sex with women drunk or on drugs...

mate if I knew it was a drug bar, I wouldn't even have went. only to find out when I opened the door. sometimes people slip up, I did this time. I'm actually happy with my decision, executing it, leaving the place. experience gained. that's what I'm here for. there always going to be

"OhhHh BrOs U SHund'T dUn Tiz N dA"

without experiencing it 1st hand

 

[Skills]

mate if I knew it was a drug bar, I wouldn't even have went. only to find out when I opened the door. sometimes people slip up, I did this time. I'm actually happy with my decision, executing it, leaving the place. experience gained. that's what I'm here for. there always going to be

"OhhHh BrOs U SHund'T dUn Tiz N dA"

without experiencing it 1st hand

yeah of course!

 

[matheth]

Follow up on this stupid bitch that has a lot of problems. A bit funny, because these were the type of girls Gunwitch talked about wrestling for power/frame when he was seeing them in witch15 hahaha,

Around 4 or 5 a.m., she calls me, texts me, messages saying she's at a club close to my place. She's hollering, saying to meet her, blah blah blah. She called me a couple times but I couldn't hear what she said because the club was loud. It's loud music and stuff. I arrive at the club, which is filled with a bunch of morons doing the whippets. It's an inhalant drug with nitrous oxide or some shit.

I arrive and I couldn't find her. This dumb bitch was drunk and out of her mind, type of high and drunk. She was in a situation where there was a bunch of guys. These after hours places, not just a regular after-hour, this was like a drug after hours place where they had nitrous oxide and the people were weird. I never even heard of this fucking club, given how long I've been around here. It's a piece-of-shit garbage club with people that I just want to avoid.

I went inside, yelled at her to get her attention because it was so loud. Then this stupid bitch at her table told me to apologize to a random guy I was nearby. I tried to ignore her and just went about my way. Then she was causing some trouble, and I ultimately just left because I thought that place was filled with a bunch of fucking losers and a bunch of weirdos. FYI, this place closes at nine in the morning, so you know these are not places that normal people would go.

One thing led to another. I left and had some fucking people offering me the nitrous oxide at another table, but I got annoyed at the amount of losers there are in the fucking club.

I was walking, this fucking stupid bitch chased after me and tried to get me to go back. She started acting like a bitch, why are you acting like a bitch? I wanted to fucking break her fucking face, she just went through some fucking dental surgery and I didn't want to hurt her even more because she had like a crown put on to her root canal. BTW she shouldn't be drinking or smoking, doing drugs, which slows the recovery

I walked home, basically it was around 10 minutes of walking, and her chasing after me this whole time. It would have sucked for me to lose this bitch after I went to go see her, just because there was a bunch of fucking guys that were just waiting for a window to bang her.

The thing is, dealing with these type of girls, I don't know how to put words on it, but I certainly wanted to experience what they would actually do. She's not only an alcoholic, which she told me she drank like seven cocktails or six that day, and she went to a drug bar, which is funny, drug bar

I've been in night game for quite and to come across like a fucking unicorn like this, it's not a common occurrence. I'm a night gamer myself and I've been a club promoter. These things do exist but it has to be specific places, and they'd have to have like some weird fucked-up experiences with men that made them that way.

Ultimately I brought her back, I wanted to bang, but it's not just all about banging. I want to see what would actually happen. I was actually quite pissed, I wanted to just fucking leave, not talk to her again. she chased after me this whole time and she was fucking throwing a temper tantrum like on the street. She fell to the floor like three times, yelling, and she dropped her phone the dumb bitch was drunk. I think she was acting this way to get my attention, just to get me mad, so I could pay attention to her more. It's kind of childish, but at the same time I kind of understand the motive of why she's doing this.

Then the next day, after I bang her, after a couple hours she went back to the same club because she lost, she left her vape at the fucking drug bar. And she came back again.

Obviously I didn't care about having a long-term relationship, she's always hinting at it, if a man should just pay for my stuff I am a princess or whatever, I'm a girl, blah blah blah.

So I told her that if she bangs another guy, I would not see her again. I have no emotions attached to these things. If she's looking to explore, she's more than open to doing so, I'm not going to be a part of that. There's something to guys that just won't accept like this cucking ritual type of scenario. some guys don't mind, especially if it's a friends-with-benefits type or situationship. As for me, I won't accept it.

she told me was one of her boyfriends proposed an open relationship, and during the open relationship she got fucked a bunch of times and the guy couldn't get any girls, which I find hilarious, to be honest.

But the girl is probably wounded by that situation. same time, she doesn't have that much of a support system, and she fetishizes people of my background.

So this, I'm sure every girl I think has some degree of cluster B, maybe cluster B could be developed over time just because how much trauma a woman can handle. trauma could build up man. it doesn't really work the same for girls. could be a whole new study in and of itself.

Whereas the woman, after a period of time not being in a long committed relationship, she will seek satisfaction in avenues of life, whether that's sex, drugs, alcohol.

hope you enjoyed reading

It just seems like u really lost ur frame for this girl. You went to meet her and only her to this random ass club u never been, then realized you were uncomfortable there and instead of getting the fuck out you lingered for a while, entertaining the losers and the chick.

In my case i woild have just gotten tf out. You dont owe her nothing, she doesnt owe you nothing. Even if she fell on the streets i wouldnt help her. Ive also had this one chick who was a party girl come to my home (after being repeatedly told not to) drunk as fuck and i found it very annoying. After that i stopped seeing her.

Besides that, i dont get why u would care if she fucks other guys given how slutty she is (literally telling u shes banged 100s of guys), given that you met her in nightgame and given shes an alcoholic and drugaddict. It seems like a way to subcommunicate that youre falling for her, and even if it doesnt it just seems suboptimal for nightgame considering how many party girls are drunks, drugaddicts and sluts.

 

[Swati]

It just seems like u really lost ur frame for this girl. You went to meet her and only her to this random ass club u never been, then realized you were uncomfortable there and instead of getting the fuck out you lingered for a while, entertaining the losers and the chick.

In my case i woild have just gotten tf out. You dont owe her nothing, she doesnt owe you nothing. Even if she fell on the streets i wouldnt help her. Ive also had this one chick who was a party girl come to my home (after being repeatedly told not to) drunk as fuck and i found it very annoying. After that i stopped seeing her.

Besides that, i dont get why u would care if she fucks other guys given how slutty she is (literally telling u shes banged 100s of guys), given that you met her in nightgame and given shes an alcoholic and drugaddict. It seems like a way to subcommunicate that youre falling for her, and even if it doesnt it just seems suboptimal for nightgame considering how many party girls are drunks, drugaddicts and sluts.

WOW never thought about that

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