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Francis

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Title re: Chase persistent bounce/pull concept "hard push"

2026-03-08 - I stopped through my fav small town to get a sandwich from a butcher. She sliced some meat for me and I asked where to get some good bread. On the way there I saw a girl walking her dog on the other side of the street. I couldn't find the bakery so turned around and saw her heading towards me a block down.

I waved and asked for a fav. She smiled and was the least skeptical I've ever seen. I asked her where the bakery was (good one @Chase). She didn't know so I started deep diving too early. She was probably early 30's yet has extremely plump lip fillers I've never seen on someone. Her fingers were covered in Hindu tattoos despite being white, huge spiral thing on the back of her neck, tats in the ears, etc. Super skinny! Actually very pretty. Natural, no makeup despite the lips.

She had just moved here from way up north after a 5 year relationship and was a reiki practitioner slash hairstylist who was consulting for a local wellness place since her business had been so successful.

So I got her to come walk her dog with me since she's living in a small town now and should know where the bakery is, right?

She also was out without a phone on her. I qualified her on being spontaneous and adventurous, and built similarity through relating about the energy of the business she was helping, law of attraction... She was extremely wide eyed like doe a deer attraction. Doggy dinner bowl?

Anyways I went into a pub to ask the host where it was while the girl waited outside with her dog. The hostess was leaning down to lick something at the stand I said busted! She said you got me... I think it was coffee foam or something. So she told me where to go and said say hi to the owner for her.

I had to street stop some kid to ask him where the bakery was since we hadn't hit it yet. It was actually pretty far getting into the outskirts so she wanted to bail.

I asked her if she had condiments at home and said I'd split my sandwich with her. She chuckled and explained she was just out of the relationship and not ready. But she said she'd give me her number and to reach out when I passed through again. She had actually brought up before that I should come back and see her at the store a bit before.

I told her I've always been single and like to connect with people. Her eyes lit up at this. I persisted a couple times, but she seemed to legitimately have some stranger danger (and said so). It was probably 10 minutes to pull attempt. When I said this stuff I could see her getting doe eye again and got a submissive eye contact break as well.

She introduced herself at this point and I took her hand. She kept it in mine while still talking, completely with zero pulling or anything. With a longer comfort phase it could have fucking happened. I have plans with someone else today I haven't seen in a while it would be really rude to bail on, so that's my excuse.

She pulls out an envelope like a birthday card and writes her number and Instagram. I tease her for giving me the whole envelope and write my name and number on the flap and tear it off for her. Good thing I had a pen in my coat.

I ask if I can kiss her and this is where I see the exact lack of comfort despite high attraction. I counter proposed a cheek kiss since it was so cool running into her and had to do it. She let me cup her face and had this look like I was about to tickle her or something. I gave her a long but light kiss on the cheek.

I accidentally caught her long elaborate earring with my hand and she laughed teasing I was trying to pull it. I said no but I would pull her hair though (low in her ear). I parted and swept my hand under her braid releasing it at the end as she stared in my eyes and we parted.

I got to the bakery and it was closed. So I went back to the pub and asked for her second fav. She came outside and pointed me a different way. She was sorry it happened but I told her I got a cool girl's number and showed her the envelope. She said she loved that story.

I asked if she was single and she said no.

Same small town as first approach here:

 

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Me: [Her name], it was wonderful having you and [her dog's name] join me for a walk. I hope your pillows were stuffed to your satisfaction. [Note she was going to get pillow filling after] When I'm back let's split a sandwich.
Maybe on a blanket by the water
-Francis
I want to talk to you about kundalini

Her: Hey Francis!
It was nice to meet you- I have to ask, do you always ask women to kiss them that fast? Lol

The pillows are looking plush ✨

We can talk about Kundalini, lol. It's something I've been interested in more myself recently.

Me: No it's rare that I ask and would have just done it but we didn't have enough time to get comfortable with each other. I only caught you once looking at my lips

It's a beautiful day outside. I'm finishing work and about to head out. Hope you get to enjoy it too.

Her: Lol, I think naturally people look at people's faces (lips included) I don't think it suggests they want to kiss...

Yes, enjoying the sunshine, heading to my Pilates class. Have a great night! ☀️
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

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Yo @Chase the winner effect's REAL man, thank you for teaching me persistence...

I just saved over ONE THOUSAND dollars because the car repair scheduling girl thought my warranty was different when I booked something. So when the guy came back today when they were done, saying they were charging me... I got them to honor the original "quote" which they never should have given me anyways (because it was all based on my own diagnosis when booking instead of theirs).

Just super chill persistence.
 

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Also I noticed the gutteral Clooney "purr" appeared naturally so testosterone may have to do with that, more than deepening... Wild
 

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First Denier yet???

Incredibly surprising given all the tattoos. Unless she's helping me overcorrect for the directness and balance plausible deniability...

Seems like an iNvestor with the long relationship... A Tester wouldn't move to a small town...? Must be iNvestor, Denier, Idealist (Hopeful Romantic) or Realist (independent... Connoisseur).

***

Me [with pic of bread loaf]: So the bakery was closed!! I went back to the pub and got her second choice. Had to get a full loaf. I don't even eat white bread... Need your help eating this.
I hope your wall art went according to plan, or nicely off course...

Her: Lol, this was yesterday?
Yeah, it's coming along!

Also, I'd be happy to meet you again, but I am not a fast person. I do not kiss quickly or anything else like that. If you're looking for that, it's just not me

Me: Just a few minutes after you left! I sent the pic after tasting a piece reminded me of you.
[Her name], passing through a town like yours can only be about the present. I am only looking to experience your energy squarely in the moment.
There was something in your eyes that I responded to and felt it was right to invite you along with me. Just keep looking at me like that instead of at my lips!

[Four days later]

Me: Does that make sense? I want you to come stroll with me and watch the [redacted animals]... Your head is off in some fantasy direction already :)

Her: It is not. I'm skeptical of you thinking I would want to kiss you, lol
And I don't want to have to watch what part of your face I look at 😂 [crying laughter emoji]

Me: I'm teasing... Stare at my lips all you want. I am reassuring I want the opposite of rushing you... More like time standing still in a small town. A slow stroll

Her: Okay, no moves can be made, lol
But a slow stroll is acceptable
 

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2026-03-15 - Low testosterone update... Brought some bagged bread to a checkout and made the girl guess by their shapes what kind they were. She did good.

Super cute blonde checkout I ordered one single heart shaped chocolate. She looked mesmerized a bit but the line was super fast and busy. I went back shortly after and cut/interrupted her to ask where the bathroom was. On the way out I hoped she'd be free but the line persisted. I need to solve street stops so I can leave counter girls alone. But sometimes the shops know how to hire...

Coffee shop later I felt a little tension with the girl, so when she asked if I wanted it cold or hot, I did a lingering pause and looked her deep in the eyes and said, "...HOT..." Lol she looked wet (always assume attraction).

2026-03-16 - No opportunities spotted

What a month!
 

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Me: No double standards then... Don't even think about returning the cheek kiss! Now how long until the trees start budding...

Her: Lol, awhile
It feels like almost winter again today

Me: Well you're welcome to come join me in the sauna. I do like [her town] snow though to be honest. Like a Hallmark movie

Her: Lol, it is. What sauna?

Me: In the apartment!
There's like a little hotel sized gym near the laundry room... I forgot about the sauna for a year... You mentioned one at the [wellness place]... Good for your work?

Her: Your apartment?
I quit, lol
I have one appointment left, but yeah.

Me: Yes I mostly trust you to come in it with me. I want to hear about your hopes for the next chapter of your life... In person
Have you started at the cafe then

Her: Oh gosh. My hopes, lol. Sure, I guess I can share some
I start Monday

[Four days later]

Her: When we were walking you said you're always single. I'm curious why, lol

Me: Let me guess... Slow cafe morning already has you hoping to move here. How's it been so far... Think you'll find a strong community there like you were seeking?

I wouldn't lead someone cuffed and blind down a road without a destination, if that makes sense. Maybe one day if I decide to raise kids together with somebody.

Her: Lol, no that doesn't make sense, can you elaborate?
And I'm not at the Café today, but I love it there, great vibe

Me: I'll tell you in the sauna. Leave now and you'll be here before I get off! Well I believe relationships need progression. I would not waste her time without it.

Her: You're in [my city], aren't you?
Lol, I know I said I'm spontaneous, but I am not travelling to [my city] today

Me: Not spontaneous enough it seems! I was 90% joking. [Redacted] A nice escape

Her: [Redacted] Happy for you tho. I'm not really a jealous person, lol

Me: A nice escape for YOU, if you find it hard to wait until slow stroll weather.
You must have done a ton of spiritual work. I want to hear all about it.

Her: [Redacted] I need to know how it feels.
When are you back?

And last question. When is your birthday

Me: When it's warm enough for a picnic
How in depth is this star chart going to be. Moment of truth

Her: Depends if you can also tell me your time of birth and location, lol

Me: Ok I want to know exactly how wrong for each other we are. Don't hold back. [Redacted coordinates, etc]

Her: Wait, you're from [her town]?
I thought you were from [another city]. I asked more questions.

Me: No it should be showing this [maps URL]

Her: I don't think we are

Me: We're not wrong? You've used up all your questions.

Her: No, not at all
 

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SUPER CONFUSING

Her: I feel like I shared so much and I know very little about you, haha.

[...]

Her: You should come for a picnic April 11th or 18th

[...]

Her: [Regarding cold weather] We could change weekends or back up plan have lunch at my place

[...]

Her: Sounds lovely! I'll look into the best place for bread this week ☺️

***

So I was passing through again. The plan was to have smoked salmon and cream cheese on bread. Picnic at the park.

I parked and saw a girl walking with a guitar, so I stopped her and asked if she was playing somewhere. Body rocked, etc. Went well and she explained she was recording with a friend. I asked a bit about it, then said I had to get going and I know we only just met really quick, but how about let's exchange numbers and get together sometime. Then she said she was 16!! I swear she looked 20. LOL I apologized and walked a few minutes to this girl's place. I don't know her age, but probably early 30's.

So I went in right to her apartment (yes the girl who could barely take a cheek kiss and forgot what I looked like, but remembered my "lovely pheromones") and even though it was very nice outside, we went right down to the butcher for smoked salmon and then ate in her kitchen.

She was fully faced toward me and I deep dived. We moved to the couch after to talk horoscopes. Her dog crawled between us (cock block!).

I held her hands to look at her tattoos and such. This may have triggered state control, since she then proposed a walk with the dog. It was super nice out and she lives near a great walking spot. There was bread for me to get after, so it was cool with me to touch and go.

She is a reiki master and does spiritual coaching and sells spiritual courses online.

She was in a five year relationship and broke up a few months ago or a little more. Moved back from super far away.

So I guess there was a big spiritual element to do with intentions or something or other... No idea. I didn't try to get her to explain her objections because the body language was extremely closed when I went for the kiss.

When we came back in for the bread there was a good physical body alignment for the kiss in the kitchen, so I went for it, very soon after arriving back. She completely dodged it and was obviously not down. When we were getting back in she mentioned she had work to do.

I handled it well, outcome independent, then she still showed me some of her art and cut me some of the bread to take. Then I took off and she said "see you soon".

So... Honestly what the fuck...

We had a good vibe the whole time. I guess maybe I need to learn how to arouse more verbally. When she first opened the door I got a full submissive eye contact break. And I can't pinpoint any mistake I made anywhere besides being fully boyfriend disqualified with no attainability for anything else.

Maybe I should have escalated immediately upon arrival, but I didn't feel that spark from her. I know what it's like from a lot of online hookuos straight to the girl's place. Despite her letting me right in, what I legitimately sensed was some nervousness from her, so I went with comfort building.

But I'm not local. So she shouldn't have been feeling that out as an option anyways.

I'm really confused.
 

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Hey @Warped Mindless can I ask you opinion on this, like what am I not seeing... I don't want to waste your time and I know I need to approach like wayyyy more volume. But I am so fucking confused man.

Is this just something that happens in day game where by the numbers you will run into girls with sexual issues or something? My guess was iNvestor Denier Realist or Idealist.

I found out she was a huge party girl and drinker in her 20's though. Alcoholic father and would host the house parties. Went out constantly. So that would mean Justifier I think.

So maybe she's fully flipped with the sexuality. When I see a girl might have had a fucked up past, I don't dig too much into sex topics usually since it'll just get dark. Maybe I lost out on some intel.

But basically what I'm asking is - did I miss something important in terms of process? Maybe I kind of forgot to seduce her lol. The part that doesn't come through is I was just paying close attention to micro body language. I would definitely ramp a little tension with proximity and it seemed she was still warming up...

But wtf... Maybe it was an escalate in the first thirty seconds or bust situation.
 

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*your opinion.

Like when a man and a woman are alone in full private isolation, there is natural sexual tension.

I didn't think I needed to sexually prize or sex talk gambit or anything and it would happen naturally as I increased touch. Must have been wrong.
 

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Ok I calmed down a little bit... Lol

Booty called someone in another city on my route and got a good sleep/shower.

I'm thinking party girl past, now firmly wanting a relationship... Basic trust and impulsiveness... Maybe isolation isn't the same as late stage seduction for every girl.

Maybe the biological clock is stronger than my sex appeal. She said she bought a house with a guy after four dates, a road trip with 3 overnights, then dating for two months.

So at some point I'm going to have to get into Riker, sex talk / prizing, etc. Maybe I should have wall slammed her and manhandle kissed right at the start, then fractionated right out to low proximity deep diving like nothing happened.

***

Then I went into a cafe this morning, and a girl in her early 20's met my eye contact completely and smiled wide and held it longer than I did as I was leaving. Like it was the most clear approach invitation I've ever had, but I don't have that killer instinct to change walking directions in an instant without momentum (plus stutter ingrained habits).

So I might have to actually go fail 200 times...
 
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