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Nmh all the way through this one…
Pretty spot on about the reality.
Pretty spot on about the reality.
Not impress at all.. sorry5. Online dating WORKS
Every single woman I slept with last year came from online dating.
Didn't you almost exclusively go for online for a while? Game is still needed if you want to be efficient or get hotter girls.stop reading after this:
Not impress at all.. sorry
I read that thread randomly a couple days ago…reading between the lines he is banging low quality girls by making them comfortable, he is just somewhat more hardworking than the average guy doing that in the wild. The amount of time he says he’s spending shows his grasp of game/escalation is not particularly proficient.Nmh all the way through this one…
Pretty spot on about the reality.
Never, i have always done cold approach.. mixed it for a while with online... Got burned... You can get easy lays constantly online... Much harder from cold approach this has been discussed to nausea...Didn't you almost exclusively go for online for a while? Game is still needed if you want to be efficient or get hotter girls.
I read that thread randomly a couple days ago…reading between the lines he is banging low quality girls by making them comfortable, he is just somewhat more hardworking than the average guy doing that in the wild. The amount of time he says he’s spending shows his grasp of game/escalation is not particularly proficient.
You can just scroll down his comments here.@GreatManKos where are the photos? I’d like to see….can you link thanks
Oh cool yeah I see he is a black dude, and fairly handsome yeah.You can just scroll down his comments here.
There are some of his photos. He's a rather handsome minority guy, imho.
reading between the lines he is banging low quality girls by making them comfortable
This is spot on.Black good looking dude 6'3 tats and ripped, isn't he like what girls go on apps for..?
He's probably simply filtering for dtf girls.
pretend you never saw the "doctor" part, like you just read over it. if she mentions it just go what? lolI had funny interaction on Hinge yesterday.
This younger and very cute chick hit me up and mistakenly thought I was a Doctor for some reason.
her opener was a voice note in a very sultry tone ;
“Sooo James..you’re a doctor , you’re handsome, you have a very sexy voice ..and you’re fun and adventurous..so I’m thinking ..how about we meet for a drink ?”
the power of ‘Doctor Game’ . Lolz.
what should I do?? of course I rolled w it and we have a date pencilled in now .. haha.
Go meet her anyway?
yes, 'im not sure what supposed to be surprsing about this.From what he writes and the photos you can find of him, he's just a decently attractive guy who lives in a very big city
This is awesome thanks GMK!https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1r7814h
He actually made a post... then deleted it because something was wrong with the video (I didn't watch it yet just read the post), then reposted again.
Due to popular demand, a lot of people on my posts have been hitting me up asking for the framework I use to get girls to come straight over to the crib.
Quick note: I deleted my last post because something was wrong with the YouTube video yes this is my third time reposting this
Now believe it or not, I had a post on here before that got beriddled with hatebut my last post got a lot of love, and I genuinely just wanna help people out.
Also, a lot of dudes swear that girls “don’t come over on the first date,” which is why I wanted to make this post.
Out of the 65 women I got with last year, literally like 60 of them came over to the crib. Only about 5 I actually had to take on legit dates.
And before people start saying “cap,” I have a YouTube video where I show receipts and explain it more. I’m gonna put the link at the bottom of this post, so if u wanna see proof, check it out.
Also before we even get into it: the way I talk is basically Gen Z slang/slander. I already know there’s gonna be some old heads in here that don’t understand certain terms. This post isn’t for yall. I’m talking to dudes that are trying to attract younger girls. If u wanna attract young girls, this is literally how they talk. If u can’t understand it, I don’t really care. You’re probably too old anyway. Go start a family.
Anyway, here’s the framework.
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A lot of dudes will say girls won’t come over on the first date.
- Mindset / philosophy (why I push “come over” first)
And yeah, there’s some truth to that. A lot of girls don’t wanna go to a guy’s place that early because some dudes are weird, unsafe, or just give off bad vibes.
But here’s how I look at it:
If I’m building a rotation, I want girls that are physically and sexually attracted to me. That’s literally the point. That’s why I always try to get them to come over on the first date.
Because if a girl is willing to come over on the first date and hook up with me, that tells me the sexual attraction is already pretty high. I know there’s gonna be dudes in here saying that’s cap, but I’m telling u, it’s true. That’s how I’ve been able to maintain a solid roster.
Another misconception is that “only ugly girls come over.”
That’s not true at all.
If u build enough comfort, plenty of attractive girls will come over. It’s not about looks, it’s about comfort + vibe + attraction.
And honestly, from what I’ve seen, there isn’t some crazy difference between average girls and “9s and 10s” when it comes to this. Obviously there are outliers, but for the most part, attraction is attraction.
Now will this work on every single girl? No.
Some girls need more time, more warmth, more trust, and that’s normal.
And yeah, if a girl is super bougie, or one of those IG baddies that’s used to dudes taking her out every weekend and she’s got her whole face done… this probably won’t work on her.
But personally I don’t even like those types of girls anyway. To each their own.
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2) Messaging (this is where most guys mess up)
Most of the girls I meet are from dating apps.
I can make another post on how I get numbers off apps (because yes there’s a method), but once I get the number, this is where a lot of guys fumble.
A lot of dudes think u need “text game” and to be super witty.
I’m telling u straight up:
Text game is overrated.
I don’t believe in it the way people hype it up.
I believe in voice notes and phone calls.
I text as little as possible because I try to humanize the interaction quickly.
Most guys just text forever. They never call. They never FaceTime. They never send voice notes.
Then they wonder why the girl flakes or starts acting dry.
Bro, she doesn’t even see u as a real person yet.
A 30-minute phone call builds more comfort than texting for a whole week. Easily.
So yeah, I barely text.
Voice notes + calls is the cheat code.
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3) The “spontaneous” question (this is my gauge)
Once I get the number, I’ll banter a little first.
Basic stuff:
• where u from
• how’s your day
• what u up to
Then I hit her with this:
“How spontaneous are u from 1-10?”
This is basically a feeler question.
If she says anything higher than a 7, that’s usually a good sign. She’s more likely to be open to a call right away, and she’s probably not super rigid.
If she says like 5-6, I still go for the call, but I’ll schedule it later or the next day.
This is about matching her vibe and making her comfortable.
If she tells u she’s not spontaneous and u immediately try to push for something fast, it’s gonna backfire.
But if she says she’s an 8 or 9, she’s basically telling u she’s open to stuff.
So play accordingly.
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4) Phone call before setting the date (most important part)
If u take ONE thing from this post, take this:
Get on the phone before u set the date.
This will:
• increase your show-up rate
• reduce flakes a lot
• make the date flow better
• build comfort fast
Girls flake because they don’t feel connected yet.
Texting doesn’t build connection like a call does.
Phone calls do.
FaceTime is even better.
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5) What to say on the phone (keep it simple)
Once I’m on the phone, I just keep it light and normal.
Some dudes are introverted or don’t know what to say, so here’s a basic structure:
• how’s your day
• where u from
• what do u do for work
• what do u do for fun
• what kinda music u listen to
Then sprinkle in fun questions.
One thing I do if she’s like “why are u asking so much” is I’ll say:
“I’m just doing the whole get-to-know-you thing so you know I’m not a weirdo.”
It’s playful, but it also makes her feel safe.
Then I ask stuff like:
• “If u were a guy, what would u be like?”
• “What’s your type?”
• “Have u ever been cheated on?”
• “Have u ever cheated?”
The key is asking questions that make her talk.
Don’t ask yes/no questions.
Ask “how,” “why,” and “what” questions.
That’s how u build chemistry.
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6) End the call first + set the frame
After about 20-30 minutes, I end the call.
It’s better if u end it first (if u can), because it makes u seem busy and like u have a life.
I’ll say something like:
“I gotta go handle something real quick, but I’m not gonna lie, u seem cool. I’d be down to meet. U free sometime this week?”
If she’s like “uhhh idk,” she probably isn’t that interested.
If she’s like “yeah I’m down” and starts giving days, that’s a green light.
If she says “maybe next week” or “in two weeks,” she’s probably just bored or keeping u around as an option.
If she asks “what do u wanna do?” I’ll usually say:
“Honestly I’m not sure yet, I just wanted to see if u were open to meeting. I’ll think of something.”
Then I end the call.
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7) The voice note that gets them to come over
After the call, this is where it usually gets easy.
I send a voice note, not a long paragraph.
Here’s basically what I say (tweak it however u want):
“Aye so ima be real, I’m kinda new to the area and I didn’t even bring my car / my car’s been acting up. Normally I’d be on some gentleman stuff and pick u up and we go out somewhere, but I’m not tryna be a passenger princess. Would u be cool coming over and I’ll cook us dinner? No pressure if not, we can always do something else.”
This works because:
• it’s confident but not pushy
• it’s low pressure
• it feels normal
• it’s not overly sexual
• it gives her an easy out
That “no pressure” line matters more than people think.
Girls don’t like feeling forced into anything.
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8) Why this works so well
This framework works because:
1. U build comfort fast (call/FaceTime)
2. U stand out (most dudes only text)
3. U lead the interaction
4. U keep it low pressure
5. U make it feel normal (food + chill vibe)
Most guys either rush it too fast, or they take too long and end up wasting time.
This is the middle ground.
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Final note
I’m not saying dates are bad.
I’m saying if your goal is casual hookups, u shouldn’t be spending all your time doing dinner dates with every single girl.
Some girls will need that, and that’s fine.
But a lot of girls are down to come over if u know how to make them comfortable and not come off weird.
My friend has a similar routine online, calling a girl and talking for 30+ minutes (sometimes hours if they click) before inviting to his place. If you have some basic game then a phone call always beats texting, imo.
I think most you have an idea or two how to make this more effective like adding some game to the conversation, thus having a higher conversion rate than him. I bet he got hate for the "lying to the girls about his car" part when he made the post the first time, won't be surprised if he gets a lot of hate now as well.
