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This is Wikipedia's definition of seduction:
I find the distinction between negative vs. positive seduction to be quite an on point and fair perspective of differentiation and really liked the definitions of the two from wikipedia. I agree the morality depends fully on the long-term impact of the individual seduced. If your someone who ever has concerns with the morality of their chronic womanizing a good lens to look at your behavior through is the lens of the long term impact on the women you've seduced.
Are your sexual conquests, whether you dated them in a long term capacity or not, better off or worse off after the fact? Would they smile at the memory or quickly try and dismiss you from their conscience thought? Would they view themselves in a good light or with self hate in being seduced by you?
If you go a level deeper you could easily make the argument that the morality of seduction has more to do with one's ability to circumnavigate sex regret than in the actual morality of their actions. I.e. you could rape a girl but if half way through having sex you convinced her she likes it and by the end of sex she enjoyed herself and you help her rationalize the situation to reframe the situation so that she would look back on the encounter in a positive light and didn't regret it then would you have acted morally?
Its an interesting thought experiment. What do you guys think?
-Rob
Seduction is the process of deliberately enticing a person, to engage in a relationship, to lead astray, as from duty, rectitude, or the like; to corrupt, to persuade or induce to engage in sexual behaviour. Strategies of seduction include conversation and sexual scripts,[1] paralingual features,[2] non-verbal communication,[3][4] and short-term behavioural strategies.[5] The word seduction stems from Latin and means literally "leading astray."[6] As a result, the term may have a positive or negative connotation. Famous seducers from history or legend include Lilith, Giacomo Casanova, and the fictional character Don Juan. The emergence of the Internet and technology has supported the availability and the existence of a seduction community, which is based on discourse about seduction. This is predominately by "pickup artists" (PUA). Seduction is also used within marketing to increase compliance and willingness.[7]
Seduction, seen negatively, involves temptation and enticement, often sexual in nature, to lead someone astray into a behavioral choice they would not have made if they were not in a state of sexual arousal. Seen positively, seduction is a synonym for the act of charming someone — male or female — by an appeal to the senses, often with the goal of reducing unfounded fears and leading to their "sexual emancipation." Some sides in contemporary academic debate state that the morality of seduction depends on the long-term impacts on the individuals concerned, rather than the act itself, and may not necessarily carry the negative connotations expressed in dictionary definitions.
I find the distinction between negative vs. positive seduction to be quite an on point and fair perspective of differentiation and really liked the definitions of the two from wikipedia. I agree the morality depends fully on the long-term impact of the individual seduced. If your someone who ever has concerns with the morality of their chronic womanizing a good lens to look at your behavior through is the lens of the long term impact on the women you've seduced.
Are your sexual conquests, whether you dated them in a long term capacity or not, better off or worse off after the fact? Would they smile at the memory or quickly try and dismiss you from their conscience thought? Would they view themselves in a good light or with self hate in being seduced by you?
If you go a level deeper you could easily make the argument that the morality of seduction has more to do with one's ability to circumnavigate sex regret than in the actual morality of their actions. I.e. you could rape a girl but if half way through having sex you convinced her she likes it and by the end of sex she enjoyed herself and you help her rationalize the situation to reframe the situation so that she would look back on the encounter in a positive light and didn't regret it then would you have acted morally?
Its an interesting thought experiment. What do you guys think?
-Rob