snapchat challenge

[naturalmikey]

i know exactly who it is. it’s you and @Carousel ive been told multiple times you two have it out for me

i was told to leave the two of you alone. and i did. you’re literally some dudes on a forum who gives a shit. but if you’re gonna come after me you could at least validate yourselves.

 

[Skills]

or shut up. i’m tired of you. i don’t wanna do this anymore. either you prove yourself or you don’t. i have no problem proving myself.

mike there is no need, all this is about the content, how you or him on the field doing a pissing contest help readers? enough of this... you are in cali he is france... both of you have been in the field with posters, you with the annoying poster from mm, and he with a million people from all different forums (the dude is legit lol) he has been even mentioned in multiple books

 

[naturalmikey]

i was told to leave the two of you alone. and i did

mike there is no need, all this is about the content, how you or him on the field doing a pissing contest help readers? enough of this... you are in cali he is france... both of you have been in the field with posters, you with the annoying poster from mm, and he with a million people from all different forums (the dude is legit lol) he has been even mentioned in multiple books

i haven’t commented on a thread of his in a month at least. i was over it a long time ago.

 

[naturalmikey]

@Skills youre in miami right. i may be there in april. i’m always down to go out with guys who do well. i actually only know one. a total natural who slays without any seduction knowledge.

 

[Teevster]

i know exactly who it is. it’s you and @Carousel ive been told multiple times you two have it out for me

i was told to leave the two of you alone. and i did. you’re literally some dudes on a forum who gives a shit. but if you’re gonna come after me you could at least validate yourselves.

Now you are making things up.

I only asked you a few critical question., to which you made this silly thread. For those who want to see those questions I asked, they may check them blow, where I state my skepticism to naturalmikeys gameplan:

The numbers game + good looks can get you results.... to a CERTAIN extent.

Doing 75 lays a year would at LEAST result in a better theoretical understand of the game, social dynamics and women than you seem to show here (you show the most basic and superficial degree of understanding). Your technical understand of game is apparently very low, since "you just go for greens". For those who consider this a viable strategy understand that:

- Women need to be into you from the get-go to be obvious greens. Being good looking or high value helps here. so it is not "just go for greens". It is easier for some than others. Even good looking guys with high value will not get that many greens because most women will actually judge a man by his first impression by distance, but the real assessment of the man takes place WITHIN THE INTERACTION.
- Spotting those signs of interest can be HARD in chaotic environment - so it is not that easy to SPOT THEM - here we have an epistemic limitation.
- Women who may be into you, due to their submissive nature will RARELY display that much interest from the get-go - making it hard to see whether she is "red" or "green". Women would hold back signs of interest as a mean to test the man in question. This is ESPECIALLY the case for women of HIGH SMV (sexual market value). So even if the woman is into you from the get go, she may not show it.
- Women may be really into you, and actually be a GREEN without actually making things any easier for you. She may get overstimulated (female state control) or actually have very high levels of anti-slut defense.... making her "hard to get" despite being into you. The idea that "attraction" necessarily leads to sex is a flawed and over simplified view of pick up. Her showing strong signs of interest does not necessarily increase the odds of her going home with you.
- Now consider she is a sexually confident girl and also into you (no ASD and high level of interest) other contextual factors, which you NEVER EVER mention can also play in.

Naturalmikey method has a lot of theoretical flaws that would have to be answered in order to be seen as a legit method here. Until then, all his claims will remain questionable in my book.

I know people who pull approx as many girls a year, myself included, but he shares no similarities with them. They have technical understanding, theoretical understand and usually have a pretty advanced arsenal at their disposal. Naturalmikey has none of them.

My advice to readers of this forum, would be to take any statement about lay count with a serious grain of salt, and judge the skill and the value of the poster by the usefulness of the content. This is how it has been done historically, where people have gained ranks and respect in this community as a result of their content and the success others have had with it. Lay counts was never really a predominant factor (not claiming it does not matter - we simply barely talk about it - actually the pros talks about ratio over lay count. )

So no sorry to disappoint you gentlemen, there ain't no such a thing as a free lunch.

Best,

And we went from this... to a "snapchat challenge"....

i was told to leave the two of you alone. and i did. you’re literally some dudes on a forum who gives a shit. but if you’re gonna come after me you could at least validate yourselves.

So a snapchat challenge is the way one proves one's skills here? I do not think so. Again, you still have not answered my auestion, so I will ask it again.... for the third time...

How does taking selfies with hot girls proove anything?

Until then, I think I stick to my point that actual field results is what matters

 

[Mike Silvertree]

I am not sure you have figured this out, but Teevster is not being protected by the Mods, he is a Moderator of this forum. That is what the rank of Chieftain means. The fact that it says Staff Member under his rank badge should be another clue. In case you are not aware, I too am a Moderator.

As to the challenge. Do not start posting pictures of women you took selfies with in bars or anywhere else. Please read the following post:

POLICY UPDATE: No screen dumps, women's pictures, personal details, or "PM me for pics"

Howdy folks, We've had to warn several forum members recently over a handful of incidents: One member revealed personally identifying information he happened to have about another member that that member had not shared publicly Another member posted screenshots of women he'd had dates with...

www.skilledseducer.com

We don't allow the posting of pictures or posts along the lines of, PM me and I'll send you pics. Both are out of order.

This site's parent site, Girls Chase run by Chase Amante, is a long established, well respected teaching site, and Chase is an expert PUA and teacher. He has enough confidence in Teevster to have him write articles for his site and to make him a moderator on his forum. Your dismissing his ability and writing off the advanced techniques he teaches with, "you’re a dipshit that makes shit overly complicated", harms your reputation more than his. He has been a member of the PUA community for well over a decade and is well respected. Look at the list of people he has been out with who vouch for his ability. It is in post #14 in this thread.

You need to dial it down.

 

[naturalmikey]

honestly @Teevster i would prefer just not to engage with you. i hadn’t in some time. i’m sure you were really good at one point. maybe you still are. right now i question that you are really a top guy right now. you question the same about me. let’s just leave it at that. best of luck to you out there though.

 

[Toby2030]

are we done comparing dick sizes now? if you don't trust someone, then just ignore their advice and don't read their posts. It ain't harder than that..

 

[Teevster]

well i feel better, cause i was nervous of you as a mod for exactly that reason ^, as you know you can be very polarizing (so am i, so not calling you out), so the other mods should not ban guys when they are in heated debates with you, that is good, i don't want to happen here what destroy sedfast...

Anything related to me and naturalmikey will be judged by the other mods. They know my position on the matter and they are free to make the call. Unless anyone arguing with me starts posting childporn or anything clearly against the rules I will not sanction them.