So why doesn't the get rich way work?

[Shake&Bake]

I mean isn't that genuinely want women want. I get why sites like girlschase are here but let's face it. Male dating advice period when it comes to techniques almost never work 90 percent of the time. I always thought you could pick up a tip and use the tip and not have to think about the problem no more. But you have to drill the technique and absurd number of times before a very small number of women like it.


As much as I feel game is important. It's way too tiresome chasing uninterested wonen. It's exhausting and draining. I hate the dating game. It makes me sick to my stomach. So why wouldn't it work for guys to become rich

 

[Sub-Zero]

You don’t know if you’ll get rich though lol

It isn’t really just a simple choice that is going to be a guarantee for you.

What are you going to work on to become rich?

You can get pussy faster on your own than getting rich.

But I mean dude, if you dislike dating so much, just focus on making money, no harm in that. If you don’t practice game at all, you’ll waste a lot of time.

You won’t have any game though and will have to use your wallet.

I still think you should do both at the same time.

 

[naturalmikey]

i wouldn’t say being rich doesn’t work. you just still need a strategy around it. flaunting wealth is not that strategy. i know having a boat works. if you’re rich get a boat. chicks like boats.

 

[Skills]

you are misunderstanding, being rich helps but in the context of long term relationships, and in the context of access to better venues and traveling which could help indirectly with seduction...

however, is short sided, money is a form of status, represent attractive qualities such as hard work, intelligence, can take care of her (security) this is important when ltr... it can also help to buy women (but this is not seduction) aka pay prostitutes and sugar babies...

But in terms of seduction is short sided, i have personally done worst with money in my seductions...

when you flaunt money is a sign of low status and overcompensating in the west (in latin america and 3rd world it works)

is saying i am not good enough for you so i have to overcompensate by buying your affection which it comes accross as a form of manipulation and is unattractive...

There are not short cuts... $ is short sided if you do not know how to attract and screen for long term and short term partners...I can go on and on, plus the time it takes to get $ is 60 times more than the time it would get to get decent at seduction..

 

[DarkKnight]

Sometimes I feel that a lot of guys are still clinging on the feeling that the Blue Pill should work despite being introduced and being aware of seduction. A guy I know recently showed his shock and disbelief about a situation we witnissed and I asked him why he was so puzzled. He should have known by now. At that moment it dawned to me: he wants the blue pill way to work, because he has invested more into it than seduction.

I have a feeling that this topic is a similar symptom, but I am just guessing.

There is a big chance that you already know the answers which you are asking about. Before you get offended, this is not to put you down. Just my observation.

 

[Skills]

Sometimes I feel that a lot of guys are still clinging on the feeling that the Blue Pill should work despite being introduced and being aware of seduction. A guy I know recently showed his shock and disbelief about a situation we witnissed and I asked him why he was so puzzled. He should have known by now. At that moment it dawned to me: he wants the blue pill way to work, because he has invested more into it than seduction.

I have a feeling that this topic is a similar symptom, but I am just guessing.

There is a big chance that you already know the answers which you are asking about. Before you get offended, this is not to put you down. Just my observation.

well get rich, or the i am not tall enough, good looking enough and the likes... is a form of coping for lack of results, in other words since i am not getting results it most be cause of ___________ Fill in the blank, we all have been there in fairness... is just cope....

The op need to fix his fundamentals, and either learn from the rejections, or keep field testing better ways,,, But i will agree with the op rejection after rejection after rejection could destroy your self esteem...

 

[Shake&Bake]

you are misunderstanding, being rich helps but in the context of long term relationships, and in the context of access to better venues and traveling which could help indirectly with seduction...

however, is short sided, money is a form of status, represent attractive qualities such as hard work, intelligence, can take care of her (security) this is important when ltr... it can also help to buy women (but this is not seduction) aka pay prostitutes and sugar babies...

But in terms of seduction is short sided, i have personally done worst with money in my seductions...

when you flaunt money is a sign of low status and overcompensating in the west (in latin america and 3rd world it works)

is saying i am not good enough for you so i have to overcompensate by buying your affection which it comes accross as a form of manipulation and is unattractive...

There are not short cuts... $ is short sided if you do not know how to attract and screen for long term and short term partners...I can go on and on, plus the time it takes to get $ is 60 times more than the time it would get to get decent at seduction..

Are you sure? Because I known about the pickup community since I was 16 and I'm not proficient at Seduction at 23. 7 years to get rich is probably how long it would actually take.

 

[Shake&Bake]

well get rich, or the i am not tall enough, good looking enough and the likes... is a form of coping for lack of results, in other words since i am not getting results it most be cause of ___________ Fill in the blank, we all have been there in fairness... is just cope....

The op need to fix his fundamentals, and either learn from the rejections, or keep field testing better ways,,, But i will agree with the op rejection after rejection after rejection could destroy your self esteem...

My self esteem is already destroyed

 

[Tank]

Dude it's the 21st century feminism is here to stay. Most girls just want hot fun guys to give them exciting emotions to relax during their downtime while they work on THEIR studies/careers.

Guys who are rich but are not sexy or charismatic generally get average looking women into a "I have a headache" type sexless relationship.

Wealth is still a cool and worthwhile pursuit, and it gives you a sense of self-confidence and logistical power. And pussy isn't all there is to life so doing something to give value is fulfilling. But unless you're a multimillionaire, and you can buy status (buy a nightclub or whatever) or unless you're a broke loser so it hurts you, there's really not that much you can do, aside from prostitutes, to improve your chances with women if you make good money but your fundamentals and game are crap.

 

[Shake&Bake]

Dude it's the 21st century feminism is here to stay. Most girls just want hot fun guys to give them exciting emotions to relax during their downtime while they work on THEIR studies/careers.

Guys who are rich but are not sexy or charismatic generally get average looking women into a "I have a headache" type sexless relationship.

Wealth is still a cool and worthwhile pursuit, and it gives you a sense of self-confidence and logistical power. And pussy isn't all there is to life so doing something to give value is fulfilling. But unless you're a multimillionaire, and you can buy status (buy a nightclub or whatever) or unless you're a broke loser so it hurts you, there's really not that much you can do, aside from prostitutes, to improve your chances with women if you make good money but your fundamentals and game are crap.

I would never get into alot of relationships as a rich man. Also I would never marry

 

[BallSoHard]

Money buys you time by giving you options. The more constraints you remove - working for someone else, staying in one location - the more imaginative you can be. Just don't get addicted, that is a sad way to be.

 

[authenticSelf]

@Shake&Bake Just look at Trump. He has money but still opted to pay a pornstar for sex. The guy has no game, is highly insecure and flaunting money is how he got women. Once you are rich, you have to keep up an image - in real life and your mind because some people kiss your ass and you want to somehow win over or dismiss those who don't. Cultivating your self worth not routed in money will not only be sustainable and grounding but also attract the right kind of women in life

 

[Carousel]

Best example of why "get rich" is shit advice in this context is to look at some of the major software trillionaires. Totally nerdy guys who just happened to get rich.

Many of these have very plain wives.

 

[Michal]

@Shake&Bake what do you want to achieve with women?
What are your goals in that area? Sex? love? relationship? Family with a loyal wife? multiple relationships?

 

[ulrich]

Trust me dude, the girls who would like you mostly for money are trouble.

What are you going to do when you are rich (if you ever are), get a super hot gold-digger and then she divorces and takes half of your money?
Are you going to make another million, rinse and repeat? Is that what you want your life to be?

And don't tell me you will never marry.
When you have a super hot chick you really like pestering you and getting all angry every day because you won't commit, after some years you are going to concede.

So this is the situation:
Many thousands of men are making seduction work for them and having meaningful, satisfying relationships with worthy women.
You are still not one of them. You stumbled upon the road.
Are you going to throw it all away or surrender? It's your call, but remember that in life you sow what you reap.

I started learning seduction almost 10 years ago when I was 24. Only since last year it is starting to come all together.
There were PLENTY of lessons to learn, hundreds of them, this shit is not simple... yet it's very doable.

Also, age plays a big factor... when I was 17, 21, 25... girls did not know what they wanted... I did mistakes, they did mistakes... girls also get better and much more mature after 23-25.
Seduction get easier as you get closer to 30 and maybe even later... I-m finding out.

 

[Mike Silvertree]

I'm closing this thread, because it is useless and self defeating.

The thread I closed the other day, " Is dating just going to suck for men until we reach 25 or older?, is just a variation on a theme.

Instead of writing these whiny, defeatist threads, get to work. As I said in the other thread, you need a new better attitude before you can make any progress.

Money will just make you a target for predatory women, who will realize you have no game and are lonely and in need of sex. You will be a chicken in an affair with a fox.

There is a ton of knowledge on this site. Spend an hour a day improving yourself and learning game.

If you were paying attention, I bet you'd notice that there were nice average girls who would fuck you if you gave them a little attention. Socialize, do stuff you like to do, that is the best way to meet women who are into the things you are into. Interact with women. Study up on IOIs, Indicators of Interest. Learn to recognize when a woman is interested in you. Interested women are much easier to get on with, because they want you to open them. It's easy, you just have to start doing it. Start with less hot women you feel comfortable with. That will take the pressure off. You don't have to marry them because you talked to them.

It's this easy. At the grocery store, the tomatoes look less than ideal, a woman is looking for a few good ones at the same time you are.

You say, "These really suck."

She responds, "Bla, bla, bla."

You pick up whatever opening she gives you and carry on a quick conversation. You don't need to get laid, you are just doing it to get practice talking to women. That takes the pressure off.

It gets easier.

Do not open another whiny thread like this.

Instead use the time to learn or do.

Instead, ask questions about things you do not get or do very well.