STD scare. Is dating without sex practical?

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Last year I got tested for stds and was diagnosed with herpes, only to later find out that it was a mistake and I’m actually clean. I was always careful about who I slept with and always used protection, but now I’m especially paranoid and I haven’t had sex since the scare even though I’ve had opportunities (even passed on a girl I’ve wanted to sleep with for a while;(( . I’ve now decided to not have sex unless things are moving toward exclusivity with a girl. The lack of sex has been easy to bear as far as physical sensations go, but it’s been more difficult emotionally as sex creates a special connection and makes me feel like a man.
I know most people with herpes don’t have severe symptoms (although I have a friend that says he’d happily lose his arm if he could be rid of it), but what scares me most is the prospect of having to tell future partners about it, being rejected for it, and not having condomless sex even in an LTR.
Anyway, my questions are:
  1. Is it possible to get good with women, develop an abundance mentality, and get a high quality girlfriend if I hold off on sex until things get serious?
  2. What do you guys think of this decision in general? Am I overthinking it?
Thanks!
 

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Wear a hazmat suit. And mask. You might get Coronavirus from her.

So drown her with Corona beer!

p.s:
why am I doing this. Hehe.
I was expecting replies like this. Hazmat suits are only 99% effective ;)
What do you think of the first question though?
 

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I was falsely diagnosed with HIV last year (had a false positive on an Hiv rna-test after testing myself after a condom break) and I am still going strong. Herpes (or rather false positiv hsv/herpes) is peanuts next to it. You can have condomless sex in ltr's as well as with strangers with herpes, that is if you take the right precautions. Howwwever i dooo not recommend consomless sex for plenty of other reasons, and if you do slip - which happens to the best of us, then get tested.

1. If you have herpes, you can take acyclovyr/valacyclovyr 250/500 mg daily to be 100% sure. Valacyclovyr is better but cost more. Amazing meds. I take them for my lipherpes (what people call "cold sores")
2. But thats often overkill, so sticking to good routines by not having condomless sex during an outbreak, or whenever you suspect an upcoming outbreak (you quickly learn about your own body and the virus). Note that many hsv positive also only have one outbreak and never get it again
3. Dont catch herpes in the first place - use condoms on strangers - although mind you it does not grant 100% protection. A good way to protect yourself is to check fore sores in around her genital areas before doing anything (do that as you go down on her). If the herpes is inside her hole you won't see it, but in which case condoms will protect.

You can catch herpes in an ltr in case your girl has had herpes before and gets an outbreak. Transmission of hsv is common in ltr's.

I suggest you learn more about herpes.
 
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My kid is a medical researcher and knows this stuff. She says the herpes test gives 50% false positives, which means it is worthless as a diagnostic tool. Flipping a coin is just as accurate. Herpes hides in your nervous system, which is isolated from your immune system, which means you do not develop antibodies to it, which makes it difficult to detect.

Unless you develop herpes symptoms, likely you do not have it.
 

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@Ralph111

I don’t blame you on your paranoia.

You can get an std from your girlfriend or wife.

All it takes is her cheating one time or maybe she always had it, but didn’t know or told you.

I think always wearing condoms are the best; you really can’t trust women my dude.

Women are out here going crazy with sex not giving a damn.

Not saying this to be bitter, but it happens man, you think you trust someone, have unprotected sex, she steps out or doesn’t tell you everything, and then you have whatever she gave you.

Try telling her she gave you something, and I’m sure she’ll deny it and then you’ll have to deal with her blame game.

I say all this to say, just wear condoms all the time man.

Plus, most skin stds you can’t test until it’s already there, and you can’t protect yourself against them.
 
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@Teevster

Want your opinion and anyone else that wants to.

What would a person do if they catch herp or another skin std?

Does that person take a break? Does he tell every girl he has something? Or does he just do his thing?

And let’s be honest here; not moral.

Because if everyone was honest, then stds wouldn’t be passed around like that.

The biggest problem and main culprit are the skin stds, sometimes you can’t even see shit and you could still get it, now you’re the one who has to suffer for her not telling you, she’ll deny it if you confront her too.

Women can tell men they have an std and a lot of men won’t care, but if a man does it, I’m sure he’ll be blackballed because who knows what that girl might do, she might tell everyone just to ruin your life.

Anyway wanted to know your thoughts and everyone else’s thoughts on the subject because sometimes no matter how much you look at a girl’s pussy, she’s able to hide it pretty well.

It seems almost impossible to avoid if you can’t see it and if you sleep around with many women.

Would like to know if it’s possible to even avoid it at all if possible.

Has to be a way.
 

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Is it possible to get good with women, develop an abundance mentality, and get a high quality girlfriend if I hold off on sex until things get serious?

I guess so but you're going to get girls (and yourself) all the way close to sex, making out and feeling her up and then add soon as she's naked you're going to walk away and have an excuse.

Lol gonna require some serious will power on your part and won't be all that fun.

Everything in life involves risk just about. Walking in the side of the street you could get stuck by lightning. Driving a car you could get into a fatal accident. Going swimming in the ocean you could get eaten by a shark...

The only way to be perfectly safe is to lock yourself up in your house and never leave. Then you can guarantee your safety... Until a tornado comes and wipes your house out. NNNOOOOOwwwhhhoooaaaa :eek:

But that would be no fun. Go live life it's sort enough as it is. Getting an STD, even herpes, isn't the end of the world.

Ever heard of myalgic encephalomyelitis? If you have the genetic mutation predisposing you to it you can develop the disease from kissing a girl who has Mono (epstein barr virus which 80% of people will get before age 22). Get it and it leaves you bed bound or semi bed bound with a 3% recovery rate (meaning for most folks your life is over). It's way worse than herpes but I bet no one ever told you about that?

Point is bad shit can happen to you at any moment, but it probably won't so don't waste the best years of your life living in fear of some terrible thing that probably won't ever happen if you take basic precautions.
 

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I was expecting replies like this. Hazmat suits are only 99% effective ;)
What do you think of the first question though?

LEt me put it this way.

My first SUPER redpill. I was at a dance event many years back. I had a girl friend appeared after not seeing her for a long time. We are altogether in a clique. Friends come and go. and they come back.

She was suddenly there that day.

That day, she was super into me. Cutting my conversation with other men. It was awkward and i didn't know what is going on.

And i felt something weird but it just feels that i am missing something. Looking back in retrospective, after that incident, and this was around 2013, 2014, i learnt from experience and knowledge that She was horny and that her boyfriend was overseas for like 3 weeks.

Now, you ask. "What does that have to do with condoms, Zac?"

The thing is, put my situation like that, with a prolific seducer.
She gets railed, everytime.
definitely without a condom.

and definitely cumming inside her.

Anyway...

You just never know how crazy girls are. You just don't know what she has inside that hood. Girlschase get you close, very close. Girlschase is way beyond everyone else. BUT she always has something you don't know about. I am sure high level guys will agree with me on this.

There was one girl i dated who keep flip flop about the spelling of her name, and i don't even know why. (though i think i do, now. States and some level of control, unconsciously)

That's women.

z@c+
 

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@Ralph111

I don’t blame you on your paranoia.

You can get an std from your girlfriend or wife.

All it takes is her cheating one time or maybe she always had it, but didn’t know or told you.

I think always wearing condoms are the best; you really can’t trust women my dude.

Women are out here going crazy with sex not giving a damn.

Not saying this to be bitter, but it happens man, you think you trust someone, have unprotected sex, she steps out or doesn’t tell you everything, and then you have whatever she gave you.

Try telling her she gave you something, and I’m sure she’ll deny it and then you’ll have to deal with her blame game.

I say all this to say, just wear condoms all the time man.

Plus, most skin stds you can’t test until it’s already there, and you can’t protect yourself against them.

Meh.

Where does this paranoia come from?

Let us put this straight - consider your GF cheats on you:
- Then if she catches chlamydia/mycoplasma, you will most likely catch it too. Ok no big deal. I would have chlam over a cold ANY DAY. It rarely gives symptoms, and it is cured with 2 pills. However it can potentially (actually very rarely) be harmful if left uncured.
- Or gonorrhea - I agree that it is a bit more hardcore than chlam, but I would actually compare it to a bacterial throat infection. Also mind you that gonorrhea is more likely to give women symptom than say chlamydia, which means you are more likely to dodge it. It is also gladly less common than chlamydia (PS: depends where you are in the world. PSS: beware of antibiotic-resistant strains of gonorrhea, which exists in some parts of the world)
- Say she catches herpes - well unless she has an outbreak she is almost not contagious. Consider that 90% of the population has the virus... which means that ANY GIRL - cheating or not can give you herpes if she out of the blue has an outbreak. This however is more complicated - because just because 90+% of the population has the virus, does not mean you should be reckless, since contact with herpes blisters can increase your odds of getting an outbreak. It is like if the blister you are in contact with "marks you". The point i am saying is that just because she get an outbreak out of the blue, does not mean she is necessarily cheating on you. Mind you condoms does not protect 100% against herpes (but does protect a bit - and against many other things). Use your eyes and stay away if you see blisters (get familiar with how it looks).

- Then we have HPV warts and HPV. Warts can be frozen off easily. Condoms does not protect against HPV. Most people contact a strain of HPV sooner or later and the body mostly gets rid of it. Mind you there are 4 types that can give warts and 2 types that can potentially increase the risk of cancer (I did not say that it gave you cancer!). Good news is, you can take a vaccine against all these 4 strains! Problem solved.

- Hepatitis A and B. So the A, you can contract through food (and is curable and no big deal), and B is quite dangerous and transmissible through sexual fluids and blood. How common hep B is depends on where you are. However, this should not be an issue, since we have good vaccines against it (called twinrix - which also protects against the hep A) - if you take 3 shots, you are immune for life. TAKE THE VACCINE.

- Syphilis is no joke, but usually gives serious symptoms such as a big round blister/sore or a rash. If you see that, stay away. Syphilis is more common in the lgbtq+ environment though and in many western countries is not as common. It is also curable, but will have very detrimental effect if left uncured. Solution? Get tested. It is tested through a blood test after 4 weeks of potential exposure (I think). The cure is antibiotics.
- Hepatitis C is transmittable through blood and rarely sexually transmitted. Mostly only through anal sex. It is so rare that my local STD clinic does not test people for it unless they take drugs.

- HIV - heterosexuals are not considered a risk-group. Only HIV-1c transmits easily through vaginal fluid, and this strain is less common in western europe and the US. It is not very contagious through vaginal sex and mostly transmits through anal. That said, the risk of transmission is LOW. Although if you have any other infections such as chlam or anything else that irritates your genitals, you increase the risk. Usage of lubes decreases the risk of transmission. Mind you that some people may be straight and in the risk group, such as people for certain countries. Read more info on HIV on aidsmap.com. That all said, if you are straight man, who bangs women in the pussy, do not have other STD's, and do not go for women who comes from riskgroups (i.e. western africans, girls from certain parts of Russia etc), your risks are almost 0. Even if you bang a girl from a risk group, your odds are very low. The transmission rate of HIV through vaginal sex is FAR below 1%. A country has high prelevance of HIV when more than 1% of its population has HIV. This does NOT mean that 1% of women HIV from those country, since heterosexual women are underrepresented in those statistics (men who has sex with men, are usually the risk groups, as well as syringe users).

Kids, did you not pay attention to your sexual education in school? It feels weird teaching you guys about these things.

There are lot of great information provided by your local authorities on the subject. Hell any one of you here who are so paranoid about STD should make an appointment at your STD clinic, and get some info.

Here is the checklist to stay safe:
- Get tested often - since the very common and trivial STD's such as chlamydia increase your exposure to more serious stuff, etc.
- Use condoms with strangers, and get tested if you don't. Always use condoms when dealing with a potential risk-group - and no I do not consider the girl who you think is a skank as a risk-group, since she may be cleaner than that local good girl. Risk groups are those who either have Hepatitis, syphilis or HIV. There is a lots of info on this online! again aidsmap is a good place to start for HIV.
- Do a visual inspection of the person before penetrating. Use the pretext of going down on them to take a brief look.

I have fucked around since 2007. I mostly use condoms, but I have stopped using them in relationships. I have had condoms breaking and had quite a few rounds of condomless sex (which of course is not recommended, but they you get carried away by the moment). I have herpes on my lip that I got from KISSING. I have caught mychoplasma once, and chlamydia twice. I wouldn't call this a risky sport.

You guys are probably doing more dangerous things in your daily life, such as eating unhealthy food, smoking etc.

But if you really fear STD's for whatever reasons, maybe this place here (skilledseducer) is not a place for you.

Best,
Teevster
 

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Anybody here paranoid or having questions about STD's should read articles online (read only .gov articles or other clearly legit sources, oftentimes from local health authorities or from NGO's like aidsmap) or contact your local doctor/nurse or actually go to your local STD clinic (they often provide VERY good info about sex and STD's - and why not get tested while you are there).

Edit: You may also read this by Chase.
 
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@Teevster

Want your opinion and anyone else that wants to.

What would a person do if they catch herp or another skin std?

1. They should get cured
2. Not have sex (or at least not unprotected sex) while they are taking their cure. In case of herpes, not have sex while having an outbreak,
3. Some countries have laws where you need to tell old partners to get tested for trivial STD's like chlamydia and gonorhea, some don't, but I consider it good behaviour to let your partners know (I have told girls I gave them chlamydia, and they did not get mad! they usually do not care - and why should they?). For serious STD's like hep b or c or HIV-1 or 2, your doctor will contact your older recent partners that may be at risk to get tested. In some countries you have a legal duty to tell people you have HIV, in others you do not (very few countries like that). In some countries you do not need to tell people you have HIV if you take your meds (which means you are actually not contagious anymore!). But HIV is not anything that you should worry too much about - I do not know any puas who have caught it yet. And after I was cleared from my false positive (my test got mixed with somebody else's), my HIV doc told me that I should not worry about it, because straight men who do not have sex with risk-groups (again, LEARN what a risk-country and a risk-group is!!!) are VERY unlikely to catch HIV.

Does that person take a break? Does he tell every girl he has something? Or does he just do his thing?

He takes his meds if needed be, wait till his outbreak is over (do you REALLY want to show your dick containing blisters to a girl?? I surely wouldn't - I'd rather wait it out and take my meds!). Women who have genital herpes are usually not open to have sex, because it ain't fun having blisters down there and show it to men.

Because if everyone was honest, then stds wouldn’t be passed around like that.

That's bullshit.

Most STD's are passed because the transmitter was NOT AWARE of having an STD. Either because they did not have symptoms (they haven't arrived yet, or she may never have any). The most common STD is chlamydia. Easily transmittable, and rarely give any symptoms - and the symptoms are oftentimes weak.

The biggest problem and main culprit are the skin stds, sometimes you can’t even see shit and you could still get it, now you’re the one who has to suffer for her not telling you, she’ll deny it if you confront her too.

Skin STD's - you mean HPV and HSV (herpes). Well she may not even know she carried the HPV virus! And remember, condoms does not protect against it.

Herpes can in THEORY be transmitted when one does not have an outbreak - that is if your immune system is weak etc. Hence she may have had an outbreak (lip of pussy) 10 years ago, and she may still pass it to you. Of course she will protect herself when you blame her, since it could have been any other girl who at some point had a cold sore who gave this to you.

I suggest you stop having sex completely. Then you will be safe.

Women can tell men they have an std and a lot of men won’t care, but if a man does it, I’m sure he’ll be blackballed because who knows what that girl might do, she might tell everyone just to ruin your life.

Most common STD's are bacterial infections like chlamydia. If a girl claims you ruined her life if you gave her that, then that would be as silly as to say that you ruined her life for transmitted a cold to her. It is retarted.

Again, I will repeat it since you guys did not pay attention to your sexual education in school:
- Most common STD's that are easily transmissible are not dangerous
- and easily curable.

Get tested often. Use condoms frequently, if not always (i know it is easier said than done - so if you forget the condoms, at least get tested).

Anyway wanted to know your thoughts and everyone else’s thoughts on the subject because sometimes no matter how much you look at a girl’s pussy, she’s able to hide it pretty well.

Most women who have HSV-1 or 2 on her vag will not want to show it to you - i.e. will not be willing to have sex with you. I know a few girls who have it, who have either denied having sex with me BECAUSE OF THIS. A fuckbuddy of mine who I have not seen in a while contacted HSV on her vagina, and because of this did not feel like having sex for 2 weeks. Women do not want to have sex when they have outbreaks.

It is not that they hide it, it is that they do not have an outbreak or happen to be in the early phase of a potential outbreak, and your immune system is shit that you get something.

It seems almost impossible to avoid if you can’t see it and if you sleep around with many women.

Again, I know of no puas who have caught anything serious yet. We mostly occasionally get chlamydia. That's mostly it. A few have caught gonorrhea. Both means we are out of commission for 1-2 weeks

Would like to know if it’s possible to even avoid it at all if possible.

Has to be a way.

Yes, stop having sex.

Best,
Teevster
 

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And seriously, stop discussing or asking about STDs on INTERNET FORUMS.

While many of the senior guys here know a fair amount about STDs (both I, Teevster and Chase are probably at the level of a non-specialized medical doctor on this topic), the fair share of forum users DO NOT know this topic very well and may give you naïve or paranoid advice. Only listen to medical personnel or official health information materials like handouts or sites like this one https://www.cdc.gov/std/default.htm
 

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1. They should get cured
2. Not have sex (or at least not unprotected sex) while they are taking their cure. In case of herpes, not have sex while having an outbreak,
3. Some countries have laws where you need to tell old partners to get tested for trivial STD's like chlamydia and gonorhea, some don't, but I consider it good behaviour to let your partners know (I have told girls I gave them chlamydia, and they did not get mad! they usually do not care - and why should they?). For serious STD's like hep b or c or HIV-1 or 2, your doctor will contact your older recent partners that may be at risk to get tested. In some countries you have a legal duty to tell people you have HIV, in others you do not (very few countries like that). In some countries you do not need to tell people you have HIV if you take your meds (which means you are actually not contagious anymore!). But HIV is not anything that you should worry too much about - I do not know any puas who have caught it yet. And after I was cleared from my false positive (my test got mixed with somebody else's), my HIV doc told me that I should not worry about it, because straight men who do not have sex with risk-groups (again, LEARN what a risk-country and a risk-group is!!!) are VERY unlikely to catch HIV.



He takes his meds if needed be, wait till his outbreak is over (do you REALLY want to show your dick containing blisters to a girl?? I surely wouldn't - I'd rather wait it out and take my meds!). Women who have genital herpes are usually not open to have sex, because it ain't fun having blisters down there and show it to men.



That's bullshit.

Most STD's are passed because the transmitter was NOT AWARE of having an STD. Either because they did not have symptoms (they haven't arrived yet, or she may never have any). The most common STD is chlamydia. Easily transmittable, and rarely give any symptoms - and the symptoms are oftentimes weak.



Skin STD's - you mean HPV and HSV (herpes). Well she may not even know she carried the HPV virus! And remember, condoms does not protect against it.

Herpes can in THEORY be transmitted when one does not have an outbreak - that is if your immune system is weak etc. Hence she may have had an outbreak (lip of pussy) 10 years ago, and she may still pass it to you. Of course she will protect herself when you blame her, since it could have been any other girl who at some point had a cold sore who gave this to you.

I suggest you stop having sex completely. Then you will be safe.



Most common STD's are bacterial infections like chlamydia. If a girl claims you ruined her life if you gave her that, then that would be as silly as to say that you ruined her life for transmitted a cold to her. It is retarted.

Again, I will repeat it since you guys did not pay attention to your sexual education in school:
- Most common STD's that are easily transmissible are not dangerous
- and easily curable.

Get tested often. Use condoms frequently, if not always (i know it is easier said than done - so if you forget the condoms, at least get tested).



Most women who have HSV-1 or 2 on her vag will not want to show it to you - i.e. will not be willing to have sex with you. I know a few girls who have it, who have either denied having sex with me BECAUSE OF THIS. A fuckbuddy of mine who I have not seen in a while contacted HSV on her vagina, and because of this did not feel like having sex for 2 weeks. Women do not want to have sex when they have outbreaks.

It is not that they hide it, it is that they do not have an outbreak or happen to be in the early phase of a potential outbreak, and your immune system is shit that you get something.



Again, I know of no puas who have caught anything serious yet. We mostly occasionally get chlamydia. That's mostly it. A few have caught gonorrhea. Both means we are out of commission for 1-2 weeks



Yes, stop having sex.

Best,
Teevster

Thanks for the breakdown, but I feel paranoia is sometimes warranted.

There are times where you won’t see anything on a girl and she’ll leave you a nice little going away present that you can see clear as day on you, but on her it was not visible at all.

So she knew she had it before, but maybe it calmed down for her, but a person still gets that and has to suffer.

That’s where the paranoia comes from.

Then, you have people tell you you have to tell your partners about certain stds, well, as a guy you definitely won’t be getting laid unless you’re a celebrity or something compared to a woman having it.

A woman can say this and still have men chasing her, but men, good luck.

I mean it’s a damn if you do, damn if you don’t type thing.

You tell people something, and that person could be evil and tell everyone she knows you got something, then you’re dating life is over.

Or

You don’t tell her and are paranoid after the fact, even though the person who gave you something didn’t tell you.

I know that it’s either take the risks or don’t have sex at all.

But I do feel paranoia is justified because

1.Who wants to catch something that might not go away and you can’t protect against?

2. Who wants to have to tell someone they have something and worry if that person might tell their business and ruin their sex life for doing the “right thing”?

3. A chick you sleep with might know what she has and doesn’t care, but you gotta deal with it, while she sleeps like a baby, if you tell her what happened, she will deny it and probably go around and tell people you have something.


4. You can do everything right and still catch something from a cheater, you can be the most faithful person of all time and she’ll lie and still give you an std. Hopefully you can cure it, but if not? All the chicks can say is “oh well” and move one with their lives without a care in the world.


Maybe my perception is different because of the background I come from. In that background people aren’t honest and they will definitely try to embarrass you, I know that for a fact.

You tell someone gave you something the whole town will now and you will not be having any love after that.

But at the end of the day that’s what it is, I was just stating why some people could be paranoid.
 

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Thanks for the breakdown, but I feel paranoia is sometimes warranted.

There are times where you won’t see anything on a girl and she’ll leave you a nice little going away present that you can see clear as day on you, but on her it was not visible at all.

So she knew she had it before, but maybe it calmed down for her, but a person still gets that and has to suffer.

That’s where the paranoia comes from.

Has it happened to you? I guess not.

The only time this has happened to me, has been with chlamydia, which as I already told you oftentimes gives no symptoms, so no way she could have known.

When it comes to herpes, I still know few pua's who caught it. Because we look before we fuck. Again, as said earlier, women do not want to have sex if their pussy looks bad or shady looking. Do you even know how much women care about how her pussy smell and looks? It is quite a lot, and this worry of hers related to how men perceive her pussy makes up one of the top 3 causes of potential LMR.

Your scenario is unlikely. Do you think a woman intentionally wants to give herpes to men and be EVEN MORE judged for being skanky than she perhaps already would? Women get the slut label from having sex with men. Do you honestly think she has ANY interest in being shamed even more than she already risk being? Your whole mental construction is just incoherent with reality and makes no sense.

Then, you have people tell you you have to tell your partners about certain stds, well, as a guy you definitely won’t be getting laid unless you’re a celebrity or something compared to a woman having it.

What the heck dude. This is just weird.

Any STD's aside from hepatitis and HIV goes away after 1-2 weeks after being treated/cured. Good news is that those STD's that does not go away ARE hard to catch, really hard to catch. Unlikely you will ever even have sex with a HIV-positiv girl in your entire life, and if by any weird chance you do, your chance of contracting it is, as I mentioned it below 1% (actually below 0,5%) unless you fuck her ass,where the risk is estimated between 1%-2% (but could be more if she is not under threatment and just caught it - i.e. having an acute HIV infection). See your odds here?

Herpes is different - easy to catch and the virus stays with you - but you do not get breakouts that lasts more than 2 weeks usually (first breakout lasts longer, than they last shorter and shorter, usually around a week - maybe less with medication). When the outbreak is gone, wait 1-3 days and then you are all good again.

All others STD's are cured after 1-2 weeks (chlamydia, gonorhea etc). Those are very contagious and easy to catch . most common STD's.

Yes you won't be banging for a week or two, cry me a river.

Basically, your worst case scenartio is you won't be fucking for 2-3 weeks (maybe 4). Is that really a big deal? Based on your posts, you don't seem to fuck that much in the first place. No offence, you do not strike me as sexually experienced. I do not blame you for that, but I do however blame you for not taking the time to read up on STDs which I believe you must do now! Or talk to a doc as your local STD clinic (they are there to not only and cure, but also inform you).

A woman can say this and still have men chasing her, but men, good luck.

Not sure that is true lol.

You tell people something, and that person could be evil and tell everyone she knows you got something, then you’re dating life is over.

No, you will most likely just be out of comission for a week or more (usually max 3 weeks). It is not like getting an STD ruins your sex life. It does not. I am here talking about the trivial and common STD's like chlamydia. But even with the hardcore STD's like hepatitis C which can now even be cured! (I won't mention hepatitis B, since you can take a vaccine and not think about it no more - talk to your doc about it - the vaccine is called twinrix) and HIV which you cannot cure, can be so well maintained that you can actually after taking meds for 1-2 months not be contagious no more and actually live a normal sex life. I am not trying to trivialize HIV since it is no joke (but again, as mentioned over and over, your unlikely to catch it as a straight guy, not going for risk groups etc) but I want to mention that even HIV positive can have a decent and close to normal sex life. So maybe stop bitching about herpes and chlamydia (which I will be honest, you are most prone to catch), because they are easily dealt with.

If you get an STD, get cured, and you won't have to tell nobody about it. No problem.

1.Who wants to catch something that might not go away and you can’t protect against?

Only HIV does not go away.

Same with herpes , but it is not dangerous (unlike HIV) and you can somewhat protect yourself against it by taking a look. If you catch it, you maybe only get one outbreak and never get it again (very common), or you are unlucky, and you get a few outbreaks a year which puts you out of commission for approx a week if you take your meds (and up to 2 weeks without) and then you are fine again.

Chlamydia goes away after 2 pills. 1 week later you are fine.

Are you also affraid of kissing girls? You know that you can catch a serious strepthroat and be on harder antibiotics than if you catch chlamydia. You may also catch the flu, that could be deadly to some. Hell you may catch the latter by being around your bros or take public transport.

I would prefer chlamydia over the flu ANY DAY. And chlamydia is most common STD.

But only 2 STD's does not go away. One can be contained (HIV) and one is only a pain in the ass and really contagious during outbreaks. All the rest goes away, it is like caching a cold, or a strepthroat. Calm the fuck down lol.

Getting an STD ruins your week, not your life.

2. Who wants to have to tell someone they have something and worry if that person might tell their business and ruin their sex life for doing the “right thing”?

Are you even reading what I write? Again, when you do not have the STD no more, you do not need to tell anyone about anything (unless you get HIV, which you are VERY unlikely to catch - you are more at risk of getting cancer - that is if you are straight and do not fuck men, or women who are at risk of having hiv - you can read more about this on aidsmap.com)

3. A chick you sleep with might know what she has and doesn’t care, but you gotta deal with it, while she sleeps like a baby, if you tell her what happened, she will deny it and probably go around and tell people you have something.

AGAIN, this is very unlikely. She won't want to have sex with you if she has a herpes outbreak. She may give you chlamydia, but that's no biggie. It is like her passing over a cold.

4. You can do everything right and still catch something from a cheater, you can be the most faithful person of all time and she’ll lie and still give you an std. Hopefully you can cure it, but if not? All the chicks can say is “oh well” and move one with their lives without a care in the world.

Use condoms with strangers and you are unlikely to catch anything. If your girlfriend cheats once or twice, it is unlikely she catches something. If she does, it will most likely just be something trivial like chlamydia. Who cares really.

Maybe my perception is different because of the background I come from. In that background people aren’t honest and they will definitely try to embarrass you, I know that for a fact.

You tell someone gave you something the whole town will now and you will not be having any love after that.

But at the end of the day that’s what it is, I was just stating why some people could be paranoid.

No, your issue is (it may sound rude but I give you the honest truth) that:
- You have no to little sexual experience
- Have not really spoken to a medical professional about this
- Have not done your homework of reading up on FACTS about STD's. You may start here.

This is a pick up forum, and it is weird of me to give you the most basic high school sexual education to be honest. It is like a professor of literature at the uni teaching you about grammar.

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Teevster
 

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Go get laid.

Wear a condom.

Which will protect you against EVERYTHING - aside from HPV (not all are dangerous - there are like around 100 types, 4 types can give warts, 2 types are dangerous - but there is a vaccine that deal with all 4). It also only partly protects against HSV (yet protects quite well against it, but not 100%)
 

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My kid is a medical researcher and knows this stuff. She says the herpes test gives 50% false positives, which means it is worthless as a diagnostic tool. Flipping a coin is just as accurate. Herpes hides in your nervous system, which is isolated from your immune system, which means you do not develop antibodies to it, which makes it difficult to detect.

Unless you develop herpes symptoms, likely you do not have it.

Nice info. Out of my own curiosity, could you ask her for her estimation on false positive for HIV 4th gen test (antibody and antigen) and the odds for false positive on HIV RNA/virus load test?

I would appreciate this info.
 
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