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The manosphere is dead but now we are back to lookism wtf!

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The original manosphere was the mrm, the mgtow and the seduction community:

- the seduction community died when rsd Julien did his stupid shit! and then continue to die till 6 feet under.

-mrm died and mgtow (around same time due to woke culture)

- puahate and the looks maxers (died).- tldr was dude to Eliot rogers Shooting

Then the red pill took over:

-Rollo, fresh and fit, tate,

^ all of that died (mainly over reaching, stupidity, scandals, prison,) and all them pretty much fraud.

There were similar manosphere light players:

Jordan Peterson (never understood his appeal) scandal of some sort
Dan Balzirian (similar to the above ^ with how inherit his stuff and the likes)
fitness community also died (after zyzz was gone till 6 feet under)

and the latest Joe Rogan (used to be independent/centrist sold out to Trump (this backfired) plus moving comedians into a weird right wing circle jerk in (austin texas). All of this backfired so he is rest in piece....

From forums, people went to private chats and youtube, to tiktok and to kick or whatever it is....

So it seems the stuff circle back to blackpill (for god sake) so now who is taking over is black pill, lookism looks maxes.... I just recently learn about him clav or whatever his name is.... So we are back on the looksmaxing silly cycle.... Which as a former participant of that community is the worst community there is to be honest... Pretty niolistic, limiting, belief, causation correlation shit, and pure trolling(and they don't really get laid even less than all of the other communities put together).... Anyways they are good with the look maxing stuff (but even them are not good with style and fashion maxing which i think is even more important, clav fashion is pretty basic/normie)


 
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From forums, people went to private chats and youtube, to tiktok and to kick or whatever it is....
Are the hardcore screening neo direct guys still going?

I nominate locario to lead... This is pretty good...


God bless Zan. He is 61

 

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TBH some of the guys in this new looksmaxxing community have some valid reason behind it. The rational ones like Androgenic and Clavicular see it as a means to an end ("lifemaxxing"), not an end in itself.

This video does a pretty good job at explaining the idea behind it for those interested

 
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The original manosphere was the mrm, the mgtow and the seduction community:

- the seduction community died when rsd Julien did his stupid shit! and then continue to die till 6 feet under.

-mrm died and mgtow (around same time due to woke culture)

- puahate and the looks maxers (died).- tldr was dude to Eliot rogers Shooting

Then the red pill took over:

-Rollo, fresh and fit, tate,

^ all of that died (mainly over reaching, stupidity, scandals, prison,) and all them pretty much fraud.

There were similar manosphere light players:

Jordan Peterson (never understood his appeal) scandal of some sort
Dan Balzirian (similar to the above ^ with how inherit his stuff and the likes)
fitness community also died (after zyzz was gone till 6 feet under)

and the latest Joe Rogan (used to be independent/centrist sold out to Trump (this backfired) plus moving comedians into a weird right wing circle jerk in (austin texas). All of this backfired so he is rest in piece....

From forums, people went to private chats and youtube, to tiktok and to kick or whatever it is....

So it seems the stuff circle back to blackpill (for god sake) so now who is taking over is black pill, lookism looks maxes.... I just recently learn about him clav or whatever his name is.... So we are back on the looksmaxing silly cycle.... Which as a former participant of that community is the worst community there is to be honest... Pretty niolistic, limiting, belief, causation correlation shit, and pure trolling(and they don't really get laid even less than all of the other communities put together).... Anyways they are good with the look maxing stuff (but even them are not good with style and fashion maxing which i think is even more important, clav fashion is pretty basic/normie)



Yeah funny enough maybe right after New Years my one friend made a mention of Clavicular, *[How he got frame mogged by the ASU Frat Leader] and I was like?

And about two weeks ago I had bought a coffee table book about a local strip club and was talking about how I love strippers, *[My one simp tendency I do show up to the strip clubs and throw cash] and a little downloads to that convo she had mentioned I seemed like a Look Maxxer type of person. Which was baffling, *[This is one of my longtime chick friends]


TBH some of the guys in this new looksmaxxing community have some valid reason behind it. The rational ones like Androgenic and Clavicular see it as a means to an end ("lifemaxxing"), not an end in itself.

Yeah I can understand the idea but that’s if you go out to public places and hang around. *[Like clubs and bars which is most PUA’s so thought hunting grounds]

I more so lean towards the private parties now adays or “curated” events instead of the general go to a club and dance to whatever dj without booth seats.

I’d almost say that having a really great talent and an ability to do some basic out doors hobbies. *[Canoe and camp in a remote area, cook an a class meal, have some very interesting vinyl, vacation homes etc…..] does far more wonders.

Makes sense tho that the lookism thing is coming back though. But I feel that it’s a uniquely American phenomenon, here in Canada and I’m sure in some parts of Europe I don’t think it’s weighting as much.

But the weird thing which makes it more annoying to talk against now adays is people are becoming less open to new things and are becoming super mega entrenched in one way of thinking. Which doesn’t work as well now adays because the rules of the game change so often.

For example when I mention new bands to my friends. A common thing I get is, “Oh I’ve never listened to XYZ band, I always listen to ZZZ hits or whatever. Then when I ask why it hits the string wire trap and they start defending themselves.

You have to underhanded with it. I have a lot of friends many younger many older. But once in awhile I’ll have one of my stunner friends to hang out with me and then when the two worlds collide it leaves the people who truly believe in lookism stumped. How is this guy who doesn’t work out and collects popmart stuff talk to this gorgeous girl.

But that’s besides the point. I imagine lookism is back on the menu because companies have seen a decline in women buying make up and clothing and are trying to tap into the sales of a demographic who’s money is yet to be exploited. *[Younger single men who aren’t interested in spending money on women]
 

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Manosphere and fitness communities have a lot in common when it comes to being dumb.
-manosphere: mgtow > looksmaxing > neo-direct > redpill....and so on
-fitness: crossfit > battle ropes/mma style > peptides > full body > machines vs dumbells > sarms....and so on

What they do is an endless recycling of old stupid watered down ideas to keep things "fresh" (facepalm).

Because we know that what REALLY WORKS is boring an uninteresting to the general public.
It also takes time to get good results.

When we say "go do 10 approaches per day, write everything down, and come back here with reasonable doubts" vs a fresh and fit video with two of the most green virgin dudes trash talking good-looking women (well above their paygrade) - using the most foolish arguments - you may be tempted to think: "thats the shit".

Personally, I believe serious people recognize serious people.
After a while, you kinda know who is who, and stop paying attention to the bullshitters.
 
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Dudes really need to try GETtheFUCKoffTHEinternetMAXXING instead of all this other bullshit.

We have a generation that grew up online, stayed online and continues to be online perpetually and doesn’t really live much in the real world. No wonder they’re fucked up.
 

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he is doing this

he is doing this

Yawn! both water is wet! but anyways off topic to the op...
what is the manosphere? I thought it was the guys like that and the rizz guys

Clavicular

- recently turned 20 years old (so all his antics are a teenager)
- does facial bone smashing
- used meth to stay lean?
- blew up for running over a guy with his tesla and not caring
- is a prep school kid
- was injecting with testosterone since age 14
- claims to have autism
- claims to be sterile from injecting steroids
- got called out by the Miami mayor and banned from clubs for singing along to a Hitler song by Kanye
- frequently uses the n word and wears a hat with it

cool topic lol

more Zan please
 

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what is the manosphere? I thought it was the guys like that and the rizz guys

Clavicular

- recently turned 20 years old (so all his antics are a teenager)
- does facial bone smashing
- used meth to stay lean?
- blew up for running over a guy with his tesla and not caring
- is a prep school kid
- was injecting with testosterone since age 14
- claims to have autism
- claims to be sterile from injecting steroids
- got called out by the Miami mayor and banned from clubs for singing along to a Hitler song by Kanye
- frequently uses the n word and wears a hat with it

cool topic lol

more Zan please
It is hyper Link in op what the manosphere is.. clavicular is what is trending the new tate...

Kids are looking for role models and guidance... Black pillers the worst ar that... Exhibit Elliot Rogers...
 

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It is hyper Link in op what the manosphere is.. clavicular is what is trending the new tate...

Kids are looking for role models and guidance... Black pillers the worst ar that... Exhibit Elliot Rogers...
ohhh ok so a big umbrella of pua plus all the other stuff, like everything but blue pill it seems

sad role models... I skimmed the video for two seconds and saw $35k jaw surgery, $100k height surgery. reminds me of the guy in China who sued his wife with plastic surgery $120k for delivering an ugly baby
 

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Clavicular

- recently turned 20 years old (so all his antics are a teenager)
- does facial bone smashing
- used meth to stay lean?
- blew up for running over a guy with his tesla and not caring
- is a prep school kid
- was injecting with testosterone since age 14
- claims to have autism
- claims to be sterile from injecting steroids
- got called out by the Miami mayor and banned from clubs for singing along to a Hitler song by Kanye
- frequently uses the n word and wears a hat with it
Wow, perfect role model
 

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ohhh ok so a big umbrella of pua plus all the other stuff, like everything but blue pill it seems

sad role models... I skimmed the video for two seconds and saw $35k jaw surgery, $100k height surgery. reminds me of the guy in China who sued his wife with plastic surgery $120k for delivering an ugly baby
Is not umbrella just different men movements... The n word is nitpicking people mean is as dude! Brah! It depends on the context... I say it and troll after "no racist".....
 

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Netflix just put out a massive documentary about the manosphere. Chronically online females, and left-wing YouTubers are all over it.

As a chronically online left-winger, it's just the typical dunking on dorks and then bringing up "what about the women?"

I. But it seems like a more investigative thing that hits the same themes as that movie Adolescence.

The red pill grifters and the Uber concerned left-wingers don't really care about young men, because they don't really talk to young men and ask them what they want.

What if they did ask a 15-year-old what he wants, he's not going to talk about setting those people back to whatever country they're from, or the free college tuition.

A 15-year-old boy wants a 15-year-old girl.

No One is willing to have that conversation so things just get worse and worse. Well nobody but Epstein and Trump, but I digress
 

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Netflix just put out a massive documentary about the manosphere. Chronically online females, and left-wing YouTubers are all over it.

As a chronically online left-winger, it's just the typical dunking on dorks and then bringing up "what about the women?"

I. But it seems like a more investigative thing that hits the same themes as that movie Adolescence.

The red pill grifters and the Uber concerned left-wingers don't really care about young men, because they don't really talk to young men and ask them what they want.

What if they did ask a 15-year-old what he wants, he's not going to talk about setting those people back to whatever country they're from, or the free college tuition.

A 15-year-old boy wants a 15-year-old girl.

No One is willing to have that conversation so things just get worse and worse. Well nobody but Epstein and Trump, but I digress
I saw the embarrassment brother most drifters and red pillers are right wingers.. including all the ones mentioned in the op... All of them i saw the cringe documentary...

Took special attention to fit from the fresh and fit show..

6 pack, 6 figures, 6 super car, and all the none sense... Then got his first high value girl which is a Venezuelan no different from girls most of us can get that left him 2 seconds later for an electrician and in the video said no down for open relationships...

I have been saying for years most red pillers are drifters or scammers... teaching none sense...
 

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Is not umbrella just different men movements... The n word is nitpicking people mean is as dude! Brah! It depends on the context... I say it and troll after "no racist".....
oh right a sphere... so two umbrellas and a big fuckin fracture...

lol you have African D.R. blood or whatever though... if Malcolm X's right hand man here doesn't think it warrants comment, who am I...

A 15-year-old boy wants a 15-year-old girl.

No One is willing to have that conversation so things just get worse and worse
Man it's kind of fucked up... I didn't have an Uncle Skills to tell me shit... I lit candles and put on this song and thankfully she flaked the first time. Makes absolutely no sense... what I liked was this. and Baywatch. She had already lost her virginity at 13. To a black guy!
 

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wowow this was exellent!

Fucking jeffy still got it! he nailed it! when i joined this forum i went on and on about the red pill, cause i was furious.... then chase banned talking about red pill and made this post as well:

 

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Netflix just put out a massive documentary about the manosphere. Chronically online females, and left-wing YouTubers are all over it.

As a chronically online left-winger, it's just the typical dunking on dorks and then bringing up "what about the women?"

I. But it seems like a more investigative thing that hits the same themes as that movie Adolescence.

The red pill grifters and the Uber concerned left-wingers don't really care about young men, because they don't really talk to young men and ask them what they want.

What if they did ask a 15-year-old what he wants, he's not going to talk about setting those people back to whatever country they're from, or the free college tuition.

A 15-year-old boy wants a 15-year-old girl.

No One is willing to have that conversation so things just get worse and worse. Well nobody but Epstein and Trump, but I digress

Young men are doing just fine at least in my opinion.

Jeffy nailed it on the head though, influencers are so cheap now so I guess the BBC people wanted to pay less than 200 bucks to get there entitled opinions out there. Wouldn’t be the first time.

I do alot of regular shopping and at the specialty stores I tend to visit they always have horror stories about celebrities coming in picking a full basket and trying to get away without paying. *[Strawberry in particular is super bad about this]


I saw the embarrassment brother most drifters and red pillers are right wingers.. including all the ones mentioned in the op... All of them i saw the cringe documentary...

Took special attention to fit from the fresh and fit show..

6 pack, 6 figures, 6 super car, and all the none sense... Then got his first high value girl which is a Venezuelan no different from girls most of us can get that left him 2 seconds later for an electrician and in the video said no down for open relationships...

I have been saying for years most red pillers are drifters or scammers... teaching none sense...

Yeah when I’m in an environment where the flex is basic, *[Nice watch, table service, ample drugs] I’ve seen my fair share of people who don’t have any of the above and are going around. They always hit like door to door sales people, and it’s more often than you’d expect in high value areas. Even though being high value you’d expect them to have a tough time accessing.

Got tickets to a guy named Don West and have never listened to his music but he’s the closest thing to Lookism I’ve seen on the concert circuit in a long time.

I should add though it’s an American things left pill right pill. Everybody on this forum is a PUA. If we are talking about the left and right it should be on how to use the difference of opinion on getting laid fast.
 

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Yeah when I’m in an environment where the flex is basic, *[Nice watch, table service, ample drugs] I’ve seen my fair share of people who don’t have any of the above and are going around. They always hit like door to door sales people, and it’s more often than you’d expect in high value areas. Even though being high value you’d expect them to have a tough time accessing.

Got tickets to a guy named Don West and have never listened to his music but he’s the closest thing to Lookism I’ve seen on the concert circuit in a long time.

I should add though it’s an American things left pill right pill. Everybody on this forum is a PUA. If we are talking about the left and right it should be on how to use the difference of opinion on getting laid fast.
if you are high value (money, looks etc..) but low status behaviors, you are not going to have success....(Neil mention this in the interview i posted)
 

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Dudes really need to try GETtheFUCKoffTHEinternetMAXXING instead of all this other bullshit.

We have a generation that grew up online, stayed online and continues to be online perpetually and doesn’t really live much in the real world. No wonder they’re fucked up.
This.

Makes me wonder how much of the youth really lives their lives online.

Lot of world's problems would seemingly disappear from life if internet is used only for necessary usage.
 
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