Socializing The party chaotic girl archetype....

[Skills]

There are usually club regulars most of the time, but sometimes they are not and/or are clubs regulars from other areas that you will encounter in night game(because some guys like me don't like regulars, but they don't know they are regulars other areas/cities etc...)... I think Swatti last lr was one those.... (i had many of these) no always results in lay, they can be super problematic) he got lucky in the sense, he met her at the LAST SPOT of her night bounces:

- She will be at the club( i am talking early no the after hour), if you meet her after hour spot you may bi pass some of the headache...
- she will show you she is down BUT NOT YET
- she wants to keep drinking party to no end to all these clubs and strip clubs
- their behavior is SUPER ANNOYING AND EXHAUSTING ON STEROIDS...
- They will have all these guys coming up to you or her befriend you and she will be super friendly to the guys in some cases the discreetly fondle them....
- You will have to do tons of baby sitting and dealing with a bunch of guys without showing jealousy...
- At the crib they are totally chaotic they tell you "go away" " fuck off" to then come back and act all sexual and down...
- they are under the influence of drugs or alcohol and they want to keep going and going
- you need to help them find keys, wallet, cell phone (they lose a bunch of shit)
- sometimes they get kicked out of clubs
- sometimes a mixture of everything i am saying...

^ to fuck them is a mission man, i am personally done with this type nutcases... (the amount of work, stress and effort you have to put with these nutjobs is not really worth it) and the sex is going to be meh in my experience after all the work...

I will just say if you still want to fuck them, just agree with any crazy shit they do, bite your tongue and be suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupppppppppppppppper patient on steroids....

^ when she tells you go away! no! take me back home! and all these none sense, you just freeze her out unreactive (kind of mm lmr technique to be honest)...

when she comes back and give you the window to escalate you have to do it right and fast (more physical game with these nut jobs than verbal) the "we don't have anything you don't want to line works well..."

The positive with gen z, it will be such a super super super small percentage of these girls that you will not have to deal with this....

 

[Chase]

Yes, these girls are an endurance run if you try to game them the whole night.

I call them club queens.

Even if you think you have her hooked, if it is not the end of the night she is not leaving.

They are like a deck full of wildcards. They just constantly produce stuff to try to throw you off your game.

I've had frustrating near-miss lays with club queens where they just kept throwing out random pattern interrupts that made me go, "Huh? Oh... okay."

Had one I had literally in my car on the way home after a ridiculous pull and she starts talking about how she left her phone somewhere and wants to go get it... my instincts were like, "Just play it off, man; just play it off." But I was exhausted so drove her over to her friend's place. Immediately we go inside and it's this after party with like 20 dudes and in a flash she's on the couch lying on top of and making out with one of them in front of the entire party. I was like "Fuck I walked right into that one."

Had another one I pulled as a beginner after a ton of bullshit in the club, got her back to my place, stripped down to her panties, then she goes to my toilet and throws up (both of us were wasted; I used to get trashed as a newb). She slips into bed and tells me "Sorry you won't get to bang me" then spends the entire rest of the night grinding her ass against my hard-on, including long after she'd sobered up... never occurred to beginner Chase to just lift the panties up and slip it in (was a total "D-oh!" moment when it hit me the instant she left the next day. Anyway, don't bang drunk girls, kids!).

The story I always use in sales letters is about a club queen I chased as a newbie who got me out to this club one night, talking about how she was "single now", talking about how we should have an after-party at my place, just the two of us... she bought me drinks... I was like "Fuck yes, I am in" but then she wanted to go to a diner. Newbie Chase's instincts were like "Do not go to that diner, man! Danger is there!" but I overruled it... well, some dude she knew showed up to the diner and she got all excited, went to sit next to him, started flirting with him, fondling him, feeding him food, I was like, "WTF is this." Went to the bathroom to clear my head and they ran off and stiffed me with the check. From "let's go to your place" to "actually I'm going to this guy's place, how about you pay the check."

The thing about these girls is they love the attention and they love the competition.

They want men competing over them... they want to feel like they got the winner... they also want to feel like some men are humiliated and stuck waiting for them.

@Skills, I will tell you the secret I have found to picking these girls up.

I switched my approach to "If I meet a club queen early on, I will talk with her just lightly, flirt with her just a bit, then I will ignore her the entire rest of the night and circle back around to see if she's still there toward the end."

Because if she is still there, it doesn't even matter who she's with... if she is with another guy you can show up and she will immediately switch her attention to you to make the other guy jealous. If you are fast and good you can pull her before the other guy knows how to respond. Then she gets her "Ha, I humiliated that guy!" jolt plus her "I am with the slick guy who's a winner" jolt, and you get the lay.

IMO it is the most efficient approach to these girls: just minimize the time spent on them and don't reappear until it's pull o'clock. Let some other guy deal with trying to marathon it with her.

They will gladly throw the guy who's spent hours with them under the bus if a new challenger appears... they love the drama and the stimulation. Unlike normal girls, who get hooked into a guy, these girls are hooked into the drama and excitement and novelty. Better to be the shiny new guy than the boring one who's been trying to lay her for hours.

Anyway, you just let some other guy handle that for most of the night, then you swoop in, thank him for his good work (not really), and pull her ASAP.

(Or if you do not like stealing girls, then just look for DTF signs. You will meet these girls early and they are flirtatious but not DTF... well, keep moving. Circle back later, and sometimes they are all alone after pissing some guy off too much, but now they are DTF. Now is the time to lock in real quick and pull them before more dudes show up and she starts throwing more wildcards out.)

Chase

P. S.

The positive with gen z, it will be such a super super super small percentage of these girls that you will not have to deal with this....

These girls still exist among Gen Z.

I just had a client last month have one of them (blonde girl) drag him onto the dance floor at the end of the night... she was 100% ready to be pulled within minutes.

But he is a beginner, did not pull her, so she lost interest then pretty soon was hanging with these Jamaican dudes and left for another club. He pulled her IG and she was just constantly partying...

I told him he needed to pull her immediately and not put that kind of thing off... also told him not to bother texting her for a date; he just needs to hit her up the next time he goes out and coordinate to end up where she is toward the end of the night and pull her next time.

 

[Swati]

he got lucky in the sense, he met her at the LAST SPOT of her night bounces:

she was on the way to another club, meeting up with another dude. I made her cancel it.

I call them club queens.

I think they higher tier of an attention whore, a lot of them have different special tactics of HOW TO do things

They are like a deck full of wildcards. They just constantly produce stuff to try to throw you off your game.

exactly. surprising I don't encounter them much and more often than not, they're a waste of time. instinct probably just tells me to avoid

Anyway, you just let some other guy handle that for most of the night, then you swoop in, thank him for his good work (not really), and pull her ASAP.

LMAO

- She will be at the club( i am talking early no the after hour), if you meet her after hour spot you may bi pass some of the headache...
- she will show you she is down BUT NOT YET
- she wants to keep drinking party to no end to all these clubs and strip clubs
- their behavior is SUPER ANNOYING AND EXHAUSTING ON STEROIDS...
- They will have all these guys coming up to you or her befriend you and she will be super friendly to the guys in some cases the discreetly fondle them....
- You will have to do tons of baby sitting and dealing with a bunch of guys without showing jealousy...
- At the crib they are totally chaotic they tell you "go away" " fuck off" to then come back and act all sexual and down...
- they are under the influence of drugs or alcohol and they want to keep going and going
- you need to help them find keys, wallet, cell phone (they lose a bunch of shit)
- sometimes they get kicked out of clubs
- sometimes a mixture of everything i am saying...

The girl I banged, yeah, kind of, I think she was coping by partying to a degree. she did have some of these things going on. they're on a spectrum. my default girls are probably more leaning to party girls, seeking fun, etc

She was a bit cock crazy, non stop chasing for sex. annoying about her, she goes to drug bar and she came to my place at 7am unannounced trying to check if I was fucking another bitch. Long story short, we banged couple more round, she was clingy and always hunger for sex, and I got mad I saw her phone receive text message from another dude, then I kicked her out then she got mad and blocked me.

I was like "Fuck I walked right into that one."

LMAO

From "let's go to your place" to "actually I'm going to this guy's place, how about you pay the check."

WTF....no worries Chase, I'll avenge you


attention whore to the max based on the description

 

[POB]

Had one of those as a FB once.
One time I picked her up after a house party, and we went back to my place.
She was so wasted that she kept trying to look down the street practically hanging from my window.
Had to stay up all night babysitting her ass to prevent her from droping down and becoming a human pancacke.
Never saw her after that.

Bissexual and fun for sure, buy curazyy

 

[Skills]

Yes, these girls are an endurance run if you try to game them the whole night.

I call them club queens.

Even if you think you have her hooked, if it is not the end of the night she is not leaving.

They are like a deck full of wildcards. They just constantly produce stuff to try to throw you off your game.

I've had frustrating near-miss lays with club queens where they just kept throwing out random pattern interrupts that made me go, "Huh? Oh... okay."

Had one I had literally in my car on the way home after a ridiculous pull and she starts talking about how she left her phone somewhere and wants to go get it... my instincts were like, "Just play it off, man; just play it off." But I was exhausted so drove her over to her friend's place. Immediately we go inside and it's this after party with like 20 dudes and in a flash she's on the couch lying on top of and making out with one of them in front of the entire party. I was like "Fuck I walked right into that one."

Had another one I pulled as a beginner after a ton of bullshit in the club, got her back to my place, stripped down to her panties, then she goes to my toilet and throws up (both of us were wasted; I used to get trashed as a newb). She slips into bed and tells me "Sorry you won't get to bang me" then spends the entire rest of the night grinding her ass against my hard-on, including long after she'd sobered up... never occurred to beginner Chase to just lift the panties up and slip it in (was a total "D-oh!" moment when it hit me the instant she left the next day. Anyway, don't bang drunk girls, kids!).

The story I always use in sales letters is about a club queen I chased as a newbie who got me out to this club one night, talking about how she was "single now", talking about how we should have an after-party at my place, just the two of us... she bought me drinks... I was like "Fuck yes, I am in" but then she wanted to go to a diner. Newbie Chase's instincts were like "Do not go to that diner, man! Danger is there!" but I overruled it... well, some dude she knew showed up to the diner and she got all excited, went to sit next to him, started flirting with him, fondling him, feeding him food, I was like, "WTF is this." Went to the bathroom to clear my head and they ran off and stiffed me with the check. From "let's go to your place" to "actually I'm going to this guy's place, how about you pay the check."

The thing about these girls is they love the attention and they love the competition.

They want men competing over them... they want to feel like they got the winner... they also want to feel like some men are humiliated and stuck waiting for them.

@Skills, I will tell you the secret I have found to picking these girls up.

I switched my approach to "If I meet a club queen early on, I will talk with her just lightly, flirt with her just a bit, then I will ignore her the entire rest of the night and circle back around to see if she's still there toward the end."

Because if she is still there, it doesn't even matter who she's with... if she is with another guy you can show up and she will immediately switch her attention to you to make the other guy jealous. If you are fast and good you can pull her before the other guy knows how to respond. Then she gets her "Ha, I humiliated that guy!" jolt plus her "I am with the slick guy who's a winner" jolt, and you get the lay.

IMO it is the most efficient approach to these girls: just minimize the time spent on them and don't reappear until it's pull o'clock. Let some other guy deal with trying to marathon it with her.

They will gladly throw the guy who's spent hours with them under the bus if a new challenger appears... they love the drama and the stimulation. Unlike normal girls, who get hooked into a guy, these girls are hooked into the drama and excitement and novelty. Better to be the shiny new guy than the boring one who's been trying to lay her for hours.

Anyway, you just let some other guy handle that for most of the night, then you swoop in, thank him for his good work (not really), and pull her ASAP.

(Or if you do not like stealing girls, then just look for DTF signs. You will meet these girls early and they are flirtatious but not DTF... well, keep moving. Circle back later, and sometimes they are all alone after pissing some guy off too much, but now they are DTF. Now is the time to lock in real quick and pull them before more dudes show up and she starts throwing more wildcards out.)

Chase

P. S.



These girls still exist among Gen Z.

I just had a client last month have one of them (blonde girl) drag him onto the dance floor at the end of the night... she was 100% ready to be pulled within minutes.

But he is a beginner, did not pull her, so she lost interest then pretty soon was hanging with these Jamaican dudes and left for another club. He pulled her IG and she was just constantly partying...

I told him he needed to pull her immediately and not put that kind of thing off... also told him not to bother texting her for a date; he just needs to hit her up the next time he goes out and coordinate to end up where she is toward the end of the night and pull her next time.

The pulling is not the issue when you pull they want to keep partying to other places...

 

[Francis]

If this archetype is a smaller percentage in gen z, what do you guys think is the distribution of other archetypes in the clubs these days, like maybe a more innocent version of this girl? Or is it an equal mix of everything

Spoiler: Not a shrink

If I'm going to tangle with cluster b, I at least like the more innocent version. Girl brought a ceiling projection light over last night and her fantasy is to have a puzzle contest... Winner gets to do anything they want to the other person.

 

[Skills]

If this archetype is a smaller percentage in gen z, what do you guys think is the distribution of other archetypes in the clubs these days, like maybe a more innocent version of this girl? Or is it an equal mix of everything

Spoiler: Not a shrink

If I'm going to tangle with cluster b, I at least like the more innocent version. Girl brought a ceiling projection light over last night and her fantasy is to have a puzzle contest... Winner gets to do anything they want to the other person.

The older genz for context