Sex Dynamics  Trouble Getting / Staying Hard in a Long-Term Relationship

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Hello to all,

Today I'm asking for your help because I feel like I'm in a bind (in my eyes). First of all, I think it's good to re-contextualize.

I've been with Alice for almost 5 years, we are both 29 years old. This is really the first relationship in which I feel perfectly comfortable, we are on the same page, we manage to share mutual passions, we enjoy spending time together. I wouldn't have believed it, but we managed to create our own cocoon where finally, we only need each other to be happy. In this dynamic, we have created our own routine. And yet, there is a snag, and not the least: sex.

Indeed, I think I have a low libido (and I don't masturbate) and I have erectile dysfunction. The problem is there. Now we have to retrace the history.

The first 6 months of our story, no problem to report, it was fire, we made love several times a day. It was so good that I even made her discover that she could take pleasure in the act (And inevitably, this is what will create frustrations thereafter on both sides).

After, we moved in together, and punctually, I had slackness: I was not in the mood / I did not feel like it and yet she was touching me naked at my side and it was not coming. This started to create a slight frustration in her where she felt "rejected" and therefore not wanted. This was made up for by all the other times it was great and it worked.

Time passed, and then for over a year now, this problem has continued to grow, so much so that right now, I feel like I'm at an impasse. Indeed, at the moment, it is a "trial". There are series where everything happens naturally, and others where all of a sudden, I have this slump and I get stuck in a vicious circle again until the next time it works. And the worst thing is that when it works, we both really enjoy it, which is a bit masochistic on my part! How does the slackness translate :

- She touches me, we touch, and it doesn't come.
- She touches me, we touch each other, it starts to come and then I start to think "It has to work this time. Remember X day ago it didn't work. Shit, if it doesn't work, she'll be frustrated, she'll feel rejected, I'm not even able to satisfy her desires". And like a soufflé, it deflates immediately. Even worse, sometimes I get close to the goal for penetration, and I panic too much to intellectualize everything, and it doesn't work.
- And since a few days, I have a new case: Penetration happens. And I'm not in the right mood because I'm rehashing too much my recent "failures", I want to satisfy her, and it gets soft in the penetration and it ends up coming out.

That's it, that's it. I already don't have a huge libido, if I miss my shot of the week, it's a total jackpot. It's really in my head, I think a lot, and there is no half measure. Because it falls back very quickly, all at once, and when it does, I know it's dead, it's impossible for me to go back and change my mindset. And it's very hard for me to try to rectify that. I am a very cerebral person in life, to an extreme point some would say, and there, it is impossible for me not to think. One can almost speak of "yips" for those familiar with sports. It's when in individual sports you're on your own and you can quickly rehash your mistakes and mentally collapse. I really see it that way. To add to that, in my Cartesian behavior (and low libido), I'm not someone who is the type to jump on my partner, to be in that "show" (if I may say so). I'm moderate, that's how I am (I'm into tenderness, affection, not necessarily passion). I would feel uncomfortable if I had to play such a character. Here is my feeling.

I share with you Alice's, we have the chance to discuss a lot on the subject. As I was saying, our relationship, we evolved in our vision of the couple and of us. For Alice, it has made her evolve as a woman, notably by discovering that she can enjoy sex and take pleasure. Lately, she has a lot of work to do, and she makes a lot of effort to maintain our cocoon, so she needs her "outlet" to be able to empty herself. Except that I am not able to give her this regularly. With this evolution, inevitably her expectations have changed. She loves our routine, our cocoon, but she would like a little more madness, passion, romanticism in our couple, where I am complacent in our routine which suits me very well. And there, these numerous breakdowns, that starts inevitably to annoy her (Already that she does not understand why I am not hard as soon as she puts herself naked or touches me), she tries to put her pride aside, and to make the first step again, for that a great number of times, that does not work finally. So, she braces herself, all that she has emptied in her head, her desires, nothing is fulfilled and it is very very difficult for me to know what to do. And that's why I don't do anything in those moments, I wait for it to pass. And that's what she also blames me for being passive, for not trying to find a solution, for waiting for her to come back to me because she will have calmed down. Nevertheless, considering my personality, and the recent failure, I can't see myself going back to the woodshed and trying again directly. It's hard. And if I think about it further, it's hard to say to myself "I'm going to try it now" knowing that even if I initiate the action, there is a risk that I will fail and that she will feel all the things I mentioned before. Do you understand my dilemma?

And this is where I feel powerless and in a dead end. On this point, even if we are perfectly compatible in our vision of things and our way of loving each other, it's very tangent and at some point, unfortunately, the fed-up will take over. As a man, it is a delicate subject: What should I do? Should I consult a doctor? Which specialist? What are the solutions available to me to find sustainability?

I am lost, and I know that I will have to find a solution very quickly.

Thank you for your help.
 

Chad Tyrone

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Do you have a problem getting it up with other bitches(if any) or it's only her?
 

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I'd look into these things:

1.Your health habits

2.Porn

3.Sexual Kung Fu (https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/how-to-draw-orgasms-up-your-spine.26872/)

---

1.To address your health habits I'd recommend this resource https://www.primalblueprint.com/blogs/primal-blueprint/the-10-laws-of-the-primal-blueprint

Your health has a direct impact on libido. Things like getting quality sleep consistently, eating right, lifting weights regularly, etc. I know that if I lift some weights I'm ready to fuck a hole in the wall.

2. Porn can really fuck with your libido with real women

3. The ancient sexperts knew a lot of important aspects of sexuality that western culture just doesn't know about. It will help you get in touch with your sexuality and deepen it. The taoists also have a lot to say on addressing things like low libido and virility.
 

Skills

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Hello to all,

Today I'm asking for your help because I feel like I'm in a bind (in my eyes). First of all, I think it's good to re-contextualize.

I've been with Alice for almost 5 years, we are both 29 years old. This is really the first relationship in which I feel perfectly comfortable, we are on the same page, we manage to share mutual passions, we enjoy spending time together. I wouldn't have believed it, but we managed to create our own cocoon where finally, we only need each other to be happy. In this dynamic, we have created our own routine. And yet, there is a snag, and not the least: sex.

Indeed, I think I have a low libido (and I don't masturbate) and I have erectile dysfunction. The problem is there. Now we have to retrace the history.

The first 6 months of our story, no problem to report, it was fire, we made love several times a day. It was so good that I even made her discover that she could take pleasure in the act (And inevitably, this is what will create frustrations thereafter on both sides).

After, we moved in together, and punctually, I had slackness: I was not in the mood / I did not feel like it and yet she was touching me naked at my side and it was not coming. This started to create a slight frustration in her where she felt "rejected" and therefore not wanted. This was made up for by all the other times it was great and it worked.

Time passed, and then for over a year now, this problem has continued to grow, so much so that right now, I feel like I'm at an impasse. Indeed, at the moment, it is a "trial". There are series where everything happens naturally, and others where all of a sudden, I have this slump and I get stuck in a vicious circle again until the next time it works. And the worst thing is that when it works, we both really enjoy it, which is a bit masochistic on my part! How does the slackness translate :

- She touches me, we touch, and it doesn't come.
- She touches me, we touch each other, it starts to come and then I start to think "It has to work this time. Remember X day ago it didn't work. Shit, if it doesn't work, she'll be frustrated, she'll feel rejected, I'm not even able to satisfy her desires". And like a soufflé, it deflates immediately. Even worse, sometimes I get close to the goal for penetration, and I panic too much to intellectualize everything, and it doesn't work.
- And since a few days, I have a new case: Penetration happens. And I'm not in the right mood because I'm rehashing too much my recent "failures", I want to satisfy her, and it gets soft in the penetration and it ends up coming out.

That's it, that's it. I already don't have a huge libido, if I miss my shot of the week, it's a total jackpot. It's really in my head, I think a lot, and there is no half measure. Because it falls back very quickly, all at once, and when it does, I know it's dead, it's impossible for me to go back and change my mindset. And it's very hard for me to try to rectify that. I am a very cerebral person in life, to an extreme point some would say, and there, it is impossible for me not to think. One can almost speak of "yips" for those familiar with sports. It's when in individual sports you're on your own and you can quickly rehash your mistakes and mentally collapse. I really see it that way. To add to that, in my Cartesian behavior (and low libido), I'm not someone who is the type to jump on my partner, to be in that "show" (if I may say so). I'm moderate, that's how I am (I'm into tenderness, affection, not necessarily passion). I would feel uncomfortable if I had to play such a character. Here is my feeling.

I share with you Alice's, we have the chance to discuss a lot on the subject. As I was saying, our relationship, we evolved in our vision of the couple and of us. For Alice, it has made her evolve as a woman, notably by discovering that she can enjoy sex and take pleasure. Lately, she has a lot of work to do, and she makes a lot of effort to maintain our cocoon, so she needs her "outlet" to be able to empty herself. Except that I am not able to give her this regularly. With this evolution, inevitably her expectations have changed. She loves our routine, our cocoon, but she would like a little more madness, passion, romanticism in our couple, where I am complacent in our routine which suits me very well. And there, these numerous breakdowns, that starts inevitably to annoy her (Already that she does not understand why I am not hard as soon as she puts herself naked or touches me), she tries to put her pride aside, and to make the first step again, for that a great number of times, that does not work finally. So, she braces herself, all that she has emptied in her head, her desires, nothing is fulfilled and it is very very difficult for me to know what to do. And that's why I don't do anything in those moments, I wait for it to pass. And that's what she also blames me for being passive, for not trying to find a solution, for waiting for her to come back to me because she will have calmed down. Nevertheless, considering my personality, and the recent failure, I can't see myself going back to the woodshed and trying again directly. It's hard. And if I think about it further, it's hard to say to myself "I'm going to try it now" knowing that even if I initiate the action, there is a risk that I will fail and that she will feel all the things I mentioned before. Do you understand my dilemma?

And this is where I feel powerless and in a dead end. On this point, even if we are perfectly compatible in our vision of things and our way of loving each other, it's very tangent and at some point, unfortunately, the fed-up will take over. As a man, it is a delicate subject: What should I do? Should I consult a doctor? Which specialist? What are the solutions available to me to find sustainability?

I am lost, and I know that I will have to find a solution very quickly.

Thank you for your help.
Reboot this is normal your reaction and her reaction.... when you live together unfortunately the exitment will come down as a dude, she can be your perfect 10 and it will happen.... i had a girl crying to me compleining i dod not do it enough, quality problem.... you can do .5 mg daily of cialis... it has some health benefits and will give you a nice pump at the gym. As a fast biochemical solution, if natural try maca... google coolidge effect...
 
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Do you have a problem getting it up with other bitches(if any) or it's only her?
Difficult to say. In my previous relationship, we are younger. Sometimes, it was the same thing but my girlfriend tried, she saw that did not work and she tried again later without saying anything. So there is no « mental issue » at this point.
 

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I'd look into these things:

1.Your health habits

2.Porn

3.Sexual Kung Fu (https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/how-to-draw-orgasms-up-your-spine.26872/)

---

1.To address your health habits I'd recommend this resource https://www.primalblueprint.com/blogs/primal-blueprint/the-10-laws-of-the-primal-blueprint

Your health has a direct impact on libido. Things like getting quality sleep consistently, eating right, lifting weights regularly, etc. I know that if I lift some weights I'm ready to fuck a hole in the wall.

2. Porn can really fuck with your libido with real women

3. The ancient sexperts knew a lot of important aspects of sexuality that western culture just doesn't know about. It will help you get in touch with your sexuality and deepen it. The taoists also have a lot to say on addressing things like low libido and virility.
Thanks! I will read the third point. On the first point, I have good health habits: 8-9 hours for sleeping, 3-4 times per week where I practicing sport etc. And I don’t watch porno.
 

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Reboot this is normal your reaction and her reaction.... when you live together unfortunately the exitment will come down as a dude, she can be your perfect 10 and it will happen.... i had a girl crying to me compleining i dod not do it enough, quality problem.... you can do .5 mg daily of cialis... it has some health benefits and will give you a nice pump at the gym. As a fast biochemical solution, if natural try maca... google coolidge effect...
I tried maca also, natural solution, but no durable effect. :(
 

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@Reboot,

Well, you may be low libido, but the over-focus on getting your dick to work isn't helping anything. The more you focus on that, the more in-your-head you will get, and the more trouble you will have getting it up and keeping it up.

You need to move your focus OFF your dick, onto your woman. That means things like:

  • Using your hands to pleasure her
  • Using your mouth to pleasure her
  • Even using your dick to pleasure her when soft

See how many creative ways you can find to do this:

  • Use your fingers to rub her clit and get her off that way

  • Use your fingers to get inside her and search for the g-spot, a little leathery spot on the top front of the inside of the vagina. When you press on it she will feel like she needs to pee. Use your fingers to stimulate that spot

  • Try to see if you can make her squirt with your fingers. Use a come hither gesture with your third and fourth fingers inside her, rubbing the g-spot as you bring your fingertips back

  • Use your hands to TEASE her around her pussy... rub her labia, pull on her pubic hair if she has any, play with her butt, tease her before you get to the main events of rubbing her clit and finger-fucking her pussy

  • Use your hand to straight up fuck her manually. See how many fingers you can fit inside her. Can you first her pussy?

  • Eat her out. Use your mouth. Follow the guide I have to it here to give her lots of mouth orgasms

  • Toss her salad if you want to. Have her clean her butt well, then lick it for her

  • Take your SOFT dick, grab it with your hands, and use it to rub her clit. See if you can make her orgasm clitorally by just rubbing her clit with your penis -- even if it's soft

  • Take your SOFT dick, and rub your pelvis against hers. Look up lesbian sex videos with the word 'tribbing'. Do some tribbing with her, except that you are rubbing your dick (hard or soft, doesn't matter) against her clit and vulva

  • Having her suck off your soft dick. Let her suck your soft dick for 10 minutes or 15 minutes if you need to. Long enough for you to STOP WORRYING about it and just enjoy her soft, warm lips wrapped around your soft little dick

The more focused you are on HER PLEASURE and YOUR PLEASURE and the less focused you are on YOUR DICK, the easier it will be for you to actually get into it.

It's almost impossible to manually stimulate the penis and not have it cause an erection UNLESS you have major blood flow issues or you are psyching yourself out by obsessing on it. If you're rubbing your dick on her pussy, getting her off that way, then having her suck on your limp penis, and you're not sitting there obsessing over your penis, sooner or later it will get hard.

The more time you spend obsessing over your penis though, the harder and harder a time you will have getting it hard and keeping it hard.

It might sound counterintuitive, but if you want a hard dick you need to forget about getting a hard dick.

Just focus on helping your woman enjoy herself, then focus on enjoying yourself with her too.

If you rub your soft dick on against her pussy, while she is moaning and writing, it is still going to feel good for you too.

You will probably get hard. But you shouldn't be thinking about getting hard. You need to just be focused on giving her pleasure and getting pleasure yourself. Then it doesn't matter if your dick gets hard. If it does, great, stick it in and fuck her silly. If it doesn't, also great, just use your hands, mouth, pelvis, soft dick, whatever. Heck, you can rub your balls on her pussy. If you're also giving her some clit stimulation, she will enjoy it.

So long as the thought running through your head is, "My dick, my dick, my dick, my dick," you'll never be able to get hard.

If you can get your mind off your penis, and onto your woman's pleasure and your own pleasure, you will get hard.

One other thought I'll leave you with: in pornography, they have 'fluffers', who are basically just people who are really good at giving blow jobs to get guys hard for a scene. Fluffers are good enough that they can get guys who've already cum a bunch of times and are having performance anxiety due to lights and cold and a bunch of people standing around watching them, and get those guys rock hard. Most of the best fluffers are gay men, who suck off straight men and get them hard for their scenes with women. How does that work, that straight guys who are not aroused by gay men can get blown to rock hard erections in front of a bunch of people? It's because the penis responds to manual stimulation. So long as a man is able to NOT be so focused on his dick that he is psyching himself out, enough of the right manual stimulation will make him stiff as a log.

You'll probably never train your girl to be as good a fluffer as a skilled gay guy is. But you can train yourself to find ways to use your dick on your woman that give you enough stimulation; you can train yourself to focus on your and her pleasure so you aren't psyching yourself out; and you can learn to put your thoughts off your penis long enough to get hard, then keep your thoughts off your penis during sex so you can stay hard.

It doesn't even matter if your libido is low; the penis is designed to respond to manual stimulation. Unless you have blood flow problems (doubtful), your issue is psychological.

You're a cerebral guy. So put that big brain to use disentangling the problem.

Also, for good measure, make sure you've read these:



Chase
 

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@Chase gives you some excellent practical advice, well worth trying. On the fundamental issue, I fully support @Skills in his analysis. The Coolidge effect is indeed...

Flirting a little once or twice a week can boost your libido more than you can imagine. Go out to a place full of hot girls, have a few drinks, move around a bit while they press their butts and tits against you, and you'll probably start craving for sex again.
 

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@Reboot,

Well, you may be low libido, but the over-focus on getting your dick to work isn't helping anything. The more you focus on that, the more in-your-head you will get, and the more trouble you will have getting it up and keeping it up.

You need to move your focus OFF your dick, onto your woman. That means things like:

  • Using your hands to pleasure her
  • Using your mouth to pleasure her
  • Even using your dick to pleasure her when soft

See how many creative ways you can find to do this:

  • Use your fingers to rub her clit and get her off that way

  • Use your fingers to get inside her and search for the g-spot, a little leathery spot on the top front of the inside of the vagina. When you press on it she will feel like she needs to pee. Use your fingers to stimulate that spot

  • Try to see if you can make her squirt with your fingers. Use a come hither gesture with your third and fourth fingers inside her, rubbing the g-spot as you bring your fingertips back

  • Use your hands to TEASE her around her pussy... rub her labia, pull on her pubic hair if she has any, play with her butt, tease her before you get to the main events of rubbing her clit and finger-fucking her pussy

  • Use your hand to straight up fuck her manually. See how many fingers you can fit inside her. Can you first her pussy?

  • Eat her out. Use your mouth. Follow the guide I have to it here to give her lots of mouth orgasms

  • Toss her salad if you want to. Have her clean her butt well, then lick it for her

  • Take your SOFT dick, grab it with your hands, and use it to rub her clit. See if you can make her orgasm clitorally by just rubbing her clit with your penis -- even if it's soft

  • Take your SOFT dick, and rub your pelvis against hers. Look up lesbian sex videos with the word 'tribbing'. Do some tribbing with her, except that you are rubbing your dick (hard or soft, doesn't matter) against her clit and vulva

  • Having her suck off your soft dick. Let her suck your soft dick for 10 minutes or 15 minutes if you need to. Long enough for you to STOP WORRYING about it and just enjoy her soft, warm lips wrapped around your soft little dick

The more focused you are on HER PLEASURE and YOUR PLEASURE and the less focused you are on YOUR DICK, the easier it will be for you to actually get into it.

It's almost impossible to manually stimulate the penis and not have it cause an erection UNLESS you have major blood flow issues or you are psyching yourself out by obsessing on it. If you're rubbing your dick on her pussy, getting her off that way, then having her suck on your limp penis, and you're not sitting there obsessing over your penis, sooner or later it will get hard.

The more time you spend obsessing over your penis though, the harder and harder a time you will have getting it hard and keeping it hard.

It might sound counterintuitive, but if you want a hard dick you need to forget about getting a hard dick.

Just focus on helping your woman enjoy herself, then focus on enjoying yourself with her too.

If you rub your soft dick on against her pussy, while she is moaning and writing, it is still going to feel good for you too.

You will probably get hard. But you shouldn't be thinking about getting hard. You need to just be focused on giving her pleasure and getting pleasure yourself. Then it doesn't matter if your dick gets hard. If it does, great, stick it in and fuck her silly. If it doesn't, also great, just use your hands, mouth, pelvis, soft dick, whatever. Heck, you can rub your balls on her pussy. If you're also giving her some clit stimulation, she will enjoy it.

So long as the thought running through your head is, "My dick, my dick, my dick, my dick," you'll never be able to get hard.

If you can get your mind off your penis, and onto your woman's pleasure and your own pleasure, you will get hard.

One other thought I'll leave you with: in pornography, they have 'fluffers', who are basically just people who are really good at giving blow jobs to get guys hard for a scene. Fluffers are good enough that they can get guys who've already cum a bunch of times and are having performance anxiety due to lights and cold and a bunch of people standing around watching them, and get those guys rock hard. Most of the best fluffers are gay men, who suck off straight men and get them hard for their scenes with women. How does that work, that straight guys who are not aroused by gay men can get blown to rock hard erections in front of a bunch of people? It's because the penis responds to manual stimulation. So long as a man is able to NOT be so focused on his dick that he is psyching himself out, enough of the right manual stimulation will make him stiff as a log.

You'll probably never train your girl to be as good a fluffer as a skilled gay guy is. But you can train yourself to find ways to use your dick on your woman that give you enough stimulation; you can train yourself to focus on your and her pleasure so you aren't psyching yourself out; and you can learn to put your thoughts off your penis long enough to get hard, then keep your thoughts off your penis during sex so you can stay hard.

It doesn't even matter if your libido is low; the penis is designed to respond to manual stimulation. Unless you have blood flow problems (doubtful), your issue is psychological.

You're a cerebral guy. So put that big brain to use disentangling the problem.

Also, for good measure, make sure you've read these:



Chase
Hello, thanks for your great comment.

I think you've summed it up perfectly. It sounds simple, but the hardest part is indeed the mental work of focusing on our pleasure, rather than having an erection. And it's not easy, because his dark thoughts are never far away. And I think this is one of my problems, I am too wise and passive. My girlfriend starts feeling me up by touching me, I start kissing her, touching her breasts, running a few fingers through and it stops there. Either it came, so much the better, I ride her. Or it doesn't come, and I go over my old thoughts. I find it hard to let go, to try new things. Sometimes, it's like fireworks. Just by touching her, I feel her excitement, it makes me naturally want to, I devour her whole body, I run my fingers over her and I ride her. Having done it several times with my tongue, I was concentrating a lot on my pleasure, and my erection did not come because the penis was not stimulated. She often rode me by rubbing against the penis, yet it remained soft. I have to detach myself from the erection and tell myself that even without it there are many ways to make her come, that's the hardest part I find, especially after all these experiences that were not conclusive. She tried several things on her side to stimulate my penis: Caressing my balls, masturbating me, rubbing all around the penis without touching it, climbing on me and rubbing, touching. I have yet to find THE way that works every time.

Note that having a well defined routine in which I indulge, we have many activities during the week (sports, outings etc). So my window of opportunity is often on the weekend. It works. Good, and here we go again. It fails and then I'm good to go until the next weekend.

So is this a "normal" problem for you or do you need to seek help for this?
 

Chad Tyrone

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The problem may have to do with the "boredom" that comes with having a bitch for years and no variety.The sex becomes too much lackluster and thing is once the "honeymone-y" passion fades away you may look at her naked body and fail to get aroused much like u used to.

Possible solutions may be ,if ur gal is down for it and u still love each other,one u can agree for an open relationship and see if other ladies on the side may arouse you to satisfy yourself and herself too with other men.

If she's not down for an open relationship setup ,then you can end it on good terms of course if she feels her sexual desires are not met you are kinda hurting her .Cause that's what's relationships are all about anyway.More two-sided for them to work and needs of each partner are also considered .

That being said,if u are not down for an open relationship yourself and want to have her for the rest of your lifetime...I would suggest you grab the book by Stirling Cooper,an adult performer who has worked in the industry for years.Really a great read on handling erection issues.Has worked for many guys.He also got other bedroom tactics to spice up your sex life.Cant recommend it enough
 

Chad Tyrone

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Oh the book is titled "How I grew my penis and other porn Industry secrets".Wish I could share it here but kinda tough navigating around it.Unless you know a way around that.Ready to help
 

Chase

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@Reboot,

Wisdom is not just what one knows about the world, but also mastery over oneself.

Right now, your thoughts are mastering you, rather than the reverse.

There are a variety of ways you can learn to tame the mind. Meditation is the best one. Bhikku Bodhi’s translation of Buddha in the Pali Canon is the ultimate guide in my opinion:


You may also want to try the fairly straightforward process I outline in my article on depression. I developed it to push out intrusive, obsessive thoughts, and it works for any sort of thought like this, including sexual ones:


However, until you focus on the mind, and the obsessive thoughts about your penis that are psyching you out, you are unlikely to solve the problem. You need to turn what wisdom you have inward, and use it to master yourself.

You might not realize it, but men who can’t get it up vs. men who suffer premature ejaculation have the exact same issue: both are obsessing over their penises in their minds. The only difference is what they obsess over. Men who can’t get it up are obsessing over their inability to get it up, thinking about their erections, asking themselves why they can’t get hard, trying to will themselves to get hard. Men who cum too quickly are obsessing over their inability to stop themselves from ejaculating, thinking about how it will feel to ejaculate, asking themselves why they can’t stop themselves from ejaculating, trying to will themselves to not ejaculate.

When you obsess over “hardness of the penis”, you will not be able to get hard, because the penis is not a voluntary muscle you can control. Obsessing over it pushes more of the control over to the conscious mind, which does not know how to make the penis erect, so it stays soft. The same thing happens if you start trying to control every muscle as you walk – suddenly you start walking funny and it gets far more difficult to walk.

Once you have mastery over your thoughts, you will not encounter erection issues, and you will also not encounter ejaculation issues. You become able to get erect on command, by turning your thoughts to how good it will feel to have her soft, naked pussy sliding up and down your dick. You become able to keep an erection as long as you want by thinking about the feel of the pussy, by drinking in the feel of her body, or if you need more excitement by thinking about how it will feel to ejaculate into her. You become able to ejaculate almost on command just by thinking about how it will feel to ejaculate. You become able to avoid premature ejaculation by putting the mind off ejaculation.

But it all starts with mastery of your thoughts.

That’s the true mark of wisdom – mastery of one’s thoughts, so one’s thoughts do not master oneself.

I have yet to find THE way that works every time.

That’s the wrong focus. Instead, focus on doing what you feel like doing with her. That is the right focus. If you are not horny when you start with her, then do something that will bring pleasure to her. As you start to get into it, you will start to want to do more with her. Do what you feel like doing. Focus on doing things that bring her pleasure that you also want to do (i.e., things that bring you pleasure as well).

Note that having a well defined routine in which I indulge, we have many activities during the week (sports, outings etc). So my window of opportunity is often on the weekend. It works. Good, and here we go again. It fails and then I'm good to go until the next weekend.

Ah, I see. You’re trying too hard to be in control. You have a tightly controlled schedule, with little free time. Then you are trying to control your erections, and failing. Most of the time you see ongoing erectile dysfunction it’s in guys who maintain stricter, more rigid schedules. They try to maintain the same kind of rigid control over their bodies, but the penis is an involuntary muscle and can’t be controlled that way, so it fails.

You don’t have to switch over to a spontaneous schedule or lifestyle – it wouldn’t suit you or be what you want. But you do need to learn to be able to let go with sex.

So long as you try to control your sex the same way you control your schedule, you will be trapped with a limp dick and a disappointed woman.

So is this a "normal" problem for you or do you need to seek help for this?

It’s a pretty common problem for a lot of guys. It’s usually due to obsessive thoughts. There’s a cascading effect where a guy has erectile problems once, then starts to worry about it happening again, but the more a man worries about it, the more it happens. Then the more it happens, the more he worries about it. There’s a negative feedback loop where once a guy starts struggling to get it up, he routinely gets in his head about sex, worrying about whether he will be able to get it up, then can’t get it up, and keeps worrying.

There are sex therapists out there who deal with these things. I’m not too familiar with them myself. Some of them work with couples I believe, while some of them work one-on-one – e.g., a sexually experienced woman who trains you to let go of your thoughts as she massages your penis so you can learn to get an erection without obsessing over not being able to get an erection.

The problem’s totally solvable on your own though – assuming you are able to learn to direct and control your thoughts on your own.

If you can’t, then you may need to seek a therapist who can guide you to doing that.

The targeted outcome is the same: mastery of one’s thoughts, so one’s thoughts stop mastering oneself.

Chase
 

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@Reboot,

Wisdom is not just what one knows about the world, but also mastery over oneself.

Right now, your thoughts are mastering you, rather than the reverse.

There are a variety of ways you can learn to tame the mind. Meditation is the best one. Bhikku Bodhi’s translation of Buddha in the Pali Canon is the ultimate guide in my opinion:


You may also want to try the fairly straightforward process I outline in my article on depression. I developed it to push out intrusive, obsessive thoughts, and it works for any sort of thought like this, including sexual ones:


However, until you focus on the mind, and the obsessive thoughts about your penis that are psyching you out, you are unlikely to solve the problem. You need to turn what wisdom you have inward, and use it to master yourself.

You might not realize it, but men who can’t get it up vs. men who suffer premature ejaculation have the exact same issue: both are obsessing over their penises in their minds. The only difference is what they obsess over. Men who can’t get it up are obsessing over their inability to get it up, thinking about their erections, asking themselves why they can’t get hard, trying to will themselves to get hard. Men who cum too quickly are obsessing over their inability to stop themselves from ejaculating, thinking about how it will feel to ejaculate, asking themselves why they can’t stop themselves from ejaculating, trying to will themselves to not ejaculate.

When you obsess over “hardness of the penis”, you will not be able to get hard, because the penis is not a voluntary muscle you can control. Obsessing over it pushes more of the control over to the conscious mind, which does not know how to make the penis erect, so it stays soft. The same thing happens if you start trying to control every muscle as you walk – suddenly you start walking funny and it gets far more difficult to walk.

Once you have mastery over your thoughts, you will not encounter erection issues, and you will also not encounter ejaculation issues. You become able to get erect on command, by turning your thoughts to how good it will feel to have her soft, naked pussy sliding up and down your dick. You become able to keep an erection as long as you want by thinking about the feel of the pussy, by drinking in the feel of her body, or if you need more excitement by thinking about how it will feel to ejaculate into her. You become able to ejaculate almost on command just by thinking about how it will feel to ejaculate. You become able to avoid premature ejaculation by putting the mind off ejaculation.

But it all starts with mastery of your thoughts.

That’s the true mark of wisdom – mastery of one’s thoughts, so one’s thoughts do not master oneself.



That’s the wrong focus. Instead, focus on doing what you feel like doing with her. That is the right focus. If you are not horny when you start with her, then do something that will bring pleasure to her. As you start to get into it, you will start to want to do more with her. Do what you feel like doing. Focus on doing things that bring her pleasure that you also want to do (i.e., things that bring you pleasure as well).



Ah, I see. You’re trying too hard to be in control. You have a tightly controlled schedule, with little free time. Then you are trying to control your erections, and failing. Most of the time you see ongoing erectile dysfunction it’s in guys who maintain stricter, more rigid schedules. They try to maintain the same kind of rigid control over their bodies, but the penis is an involuntary muscle and can’t be controlled that way, so it fails.

You don’t have to switch over to a spontaneous schedule or lifestyle – it wouldn’t suit you or be what you want. But you do need to learn to be able to let go with sex.

So long as you try to control your sex the same way you control your schedule, you will be trapped with a limp dick and a disappointed woman.



It’s a pretty common problem for a lot of guys. It’s usually due to obsessive thoughts. There’s a cascading effect where a guy has erectile problems once, then starts to worry about it happening again, but the more a man worries about it, the more it happens. Then the more it happens, the more he worries about it. There’s a negative feedback loop where once a guy starts struggling to get it up, he routinely gets in his head about sex, worrying about whether he will be able to get it up, then can’t get it up, and keeps worrying.

There are sex therapists out there who deal with these things. I’m not too familiar with them myself. Some of them work with couples I believe, while some of them work one-on-one – e.g., a sexually experienced woman who trains you to let go of your thoughts as she massages your penis so you can learn to get an erection without obsessing over not being able to get an erection.

The problem’s totally solvable on your own though – assuming you are able to learn to direct and control your thoughts on your own.

If you can’t, then you may need to seek a therapist who can guide you to doing that.

The targeted outcome is the same: mastery of one’s thoughts, so one’s thoughts stop mastering oneself.

Chase
I really find your analysis very constructive. I agree, it's all in the head. The problem is that it's an excuse for me to hide behind: "No, it's all in my head. I don't have a problem", but as a result, I don't make any progress, and that frustrates my partner. Then she clearly verbalizes it, so it brings me these bad thoughts. My ex-girlfriend, I already had moments where she was touching me and I didn't want to/not in. She would see that it wasn't working, she would bring her hand up and try later. Without verbalizing. So I didn't have any "fear", in my head I just said to myself "She feels like it, now I don't feel like it".

You have identified me very well. I am what you could call a "Robot", I have my routine, with my habits, I do my sport 3 to 4 times a week, there I block time to work on my projects etc. So much so that I hate it when someone disrupts what I had planned to do. I plan my meals for the week, I have a vision of the quarter to program my outings with my friends etc. And on the side, I have this taste for excellence. Nevertheless, what she criticizes me for is indulging in this routine. I feel good in it, and she loves it too, she is like me on that, but she would like a little more spontaneity, surprise. I find it hard to break away from it. I am absorbed in it and as I said, I arrive at the weekend and there, no right to make mistakes.

I tried meditation, but as you can imagine, with this personality, it's hard to let go. I even tried hypnosis. It didn't work. What is your method? Saying "STOP" as soon as you have a negative thought and replacing them with positive thoughts towards the future?

I am aware that if I didn't have these thoughts, everything would be fine (but that doesn't mean that the frequency would be higher, and that's where I wonder if it's my libido that is like that). I have to get my fingers out to be active, and not passive (Waiting for her to touch me to start the first one) and above all to be in the pleasure, and find new things (Not just touching the breasts, putting my fingers in and waiting for it to come). This is my biggest problem. After you will also understand that I'm not the type to jump on my partner, to tear her clothes, I remain moderate, and maybe too wise, but that's me. I would have a hard time changing that, I don't know if you know what I mean.
 

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@Reboot,

Glad you find it constructive.

I really find your analysis very constructive. I agree, it's all in the head. The problem is that it's an excuse for me to hide behind: "No, it's all in my head. I don't have a problem", but as a result, I don't make any progress, and that frustrates my partner. Then she clearly verbalizes it, so it brings me these bad thoughts. My ex-girlfriend, I already had moments where she was touching me and I didn't want to/not in. She would see that it wasn't working, she would bring her hand up and try later. Without verbalizing. So I didn't have any "fear", in my head I just said to myself "She feels like it, now I don't feel like it".

The head is the source of the worst problems known to man.

If you could magically solve every problem in your head, you’d be a billionaire inventor-adventurer with a harem of lusty maids doting on you hand and foot (low libido or not). Everything holding you back is something in your head.

As for that lack of fear in your head… what do you think your woman is likely to do if she goes unsatisfied too long?

You may think you have everything tightly controlled, that you’ve chosen well, that she would never do anything you would not want her to do.

But humans are animals, and animals, when they cannot satisfy needs they have one place, will go look someplace else to get those needs sated.

You have identified me very well. I am what you could call a "Robot", I have my routine, with my habits, I do my sport 3 to 4 times a week, there I block time to work on my projects etc. So much so that I hate it when someone disrupts what I had planned to do. I plan my meals for the week, I have a vision of the quarter to program my outings with my friends etc. And on the side, I have this taste for excellence. Nevertheless, what she criticizes me for is indulging in this routine. I feel good in it, and she loves it too, she is like me on that, but she would like a little more spontaneity, surprise. I find it hard to break away from it. I am absorbed in it and as I said, I arrive at the weekend and there, no right to make mistakes.

You ought to schedule in some spontaneity. Have date night once a week, and either she can pick where the two of you will go, or you will — but you don’t tell her where it is too far (or at all) in advance. Don’t make it the same place too often unless you both love it (and even then, still schedule in some variety). Try new places, ethnic restaurants, interesting activities.

I tried meditation, but as you can imagine, with this personality, it's hard to let go. I even tried hypnosis. It didn't work. What is your method? Saying "STOP" as soon as you have a negative thought and replacing them with positive thoughts towards the future?

Well, I can tell you for sex, personally the process for me is:

  1. If I’m thinking about “What if I can’t get hard?”

  2. The very next thought is to tell myself “I don’t care, that’s not my job. My job is just to pleasure her enough and see if I can enjoy myself in the process”

  3. Every time the thought of “Oh no, still not hard” comes back, the next thought of “Don’t care, not my job, my job is simple: pleasure her & enjoy myself doing it” comes in right after

This should appeal to your way of thinking: it is a ROUTINE that you TRAIN yourself to execute.

Once you’ve trained yourself on it, and built this habit, it becomes automatic. You don’t even need to consciously think about it anymore. One part of your brain says, “Oh, but my erection…” and immediately the thought shows up: “I don’t care, I’m focused on her pleasure, and I’ll enjoy myself while giving it.”

I can tell you for me that means I might be enjoying the feel of her pussy as I finger it… I might be rubbing the underside of my dick on her thigh or the outside of her pussy… I might be using my penis to rub her clitoris… I might be rubbing my cock all up and down her body, over her nipples… I might have her suck me off… I might stick it into her soft… I might use it to play with her butt.

I am aware that if I didn't have these thoughts, everything would be fine (but that doesn't mean that the frequency would be higher, and that's where I wonder if it's my libido that is like that). I have to get my fingers out to be active, and not passive (Waiting for her to touch me to start the first one) and above all to be in the pleasure, and find new things (Not just touching the breasts, putting my fingers in and waiting for it to come). This is my biggest problem. After you will also understand that I'm not the type to jump on my partner, to tear her clothes, I remain moderate, and maybe too wise, but that's me. I would have a hard time changing that, I don't know if you know what I mean.

You may have a low libido. You should still be able to perform though. Asexual man without a sex drive are capable of performing.

That said, if your libido is low, long-term you are going to be better off with a similarly low libido woman. Otherwise, either she is going to be unhappy because she isn’t getting enough, or you are going to have to perform more often than you’d like… which might make you unhappy. Or maybe you can get into it once she has you going. Depends on you, I suppose.

I discussed this problem here:


You don’t have to jump on your woman, provided her libido is also low enough that she doesn’t miss having a guy jump on her now and again.

That said, when you are feeling it, you may want to break this out sometimes:


You should always at least aim to be able to be responsive to her desires.

You will have a happier life, and a happier woman, and none of these worries about being unable to satisfy her, if you can do that.

Chase
 

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I've been with Alice for almost 5 years,
5 years is usually the death mark of monogamous sex.
I'm sorry if I sound blunt, but that's scientifically verifiable.

we are both 29 years old.
You are entering your prime as a man.
She is entering her decline as a woman.
Again, that's not a knock on your choices.
It's just science based on data, and something you have to take into consideration moving forward.

After, we moved in together, and punctually, I had slackness: I was not in the mood / I did not feel like it and yet she was touching me naked at my side and it was not coming. This started to create a slight frustration in her where she felt "rejected" and therefore not wanted. This was made up for by all the other times it was great and it worked.
You got sexually bored, because you are a man and need sexual variety.
Nothing wrong with that, it's just our biology and nature.

Time passed, and then for over a year now, this problem has continued to grow, so much so that right now, I feel like I'm at an impasse. Indeed, at the moment, it is a "trial". There are series where everything happens naturally, and others where all of a sudden, I have this slump and I get stuck in a vicious circle again until the next time it works.
This does not sound fun...at all.

That's it, that's it. I already don't have a huge libido, if I miss my shot of the week, it's a total jackpot. It's really in my head, I think a lot, and there is no half measure. Because it falls back very quickly, all at once, and when it does, I know it's dead, it's impossible for me to go back and change my mindset. And it's very hard for me to try to rectify that. I am a very cerebral person in life, to an extreme point some would say, and there, it is impossible for me not to think. One can almost speak of "yips" for those familiar with sports. It's when in individual sports you're on your own and you can quickly rehash your mistakes and mentally collapse. I really see it that way. To add to that, in my Cartesian behavior (and low libido), I'm not someone who is the type to jump on my partner, to be in that "show" (if I may say so). I'm moderate, that's how I am (I'm into tenderness, affection, not necessarily passion). I would feel uncomfortable if I had to play such a character.
You realize that's 100% your mental projections.
I'm pretty sure reality is very different.

And this is where I feel powerless and in a dead end. On this point, even if we are perfectly compatible in our vision of things and our way of loving each other, it's very tangent and at some point, unfortunately, the fed-up will take over. As a man, it is a delicate subject: What should I do? Should I consult a doctor? Which specialist? What are the solutions available to me to find sustainability?
I'm glad you are bothered by it.
Women cannot be in a sexless relationship for too long.
After a while, they will either dump you or cheat on your ass.

I think you need to break down the solution into 2 phases:

1) health
- do a full round with the doctors. Make every exam possible reagarding male health (including a full testo panel, sperm panel and blood work...check all relevant liver enzimes and also inflamatory markers if possible).
- clean your diet. For a while, avoid all known inflamatory foods, like: peanuts, corn, everything that has white flour (including cookies), sea food, some grains, beer (and any other alcohool thats not wine), sugar, etc. If you have alergies, try to see an alergologist to check for food intolerances. Go light on sweeteners too. All this can influence libido and erections.
- if you are not exercising, do it now, preferably with weights.
- get better sleep. If it means sleeping alone for a while, do it (sleeping together fucks up our sleep and HG production, again science proves it).

2) become sexually available to other women
I will not suggest to open your relationship because you don't seen comfortable with it (it would be the best solution IMO, but I understand it's not for everyone). Instead, do what the other guys suggested and go out alone sometimes. Savor those moments to feel sexually desirable again. Flirt with younger chicks. Allow yourself to be single for a couple of hours. Then come home and fuck her hard. If you have to picture other chicks while you are doing it, so be it. Girls do that all the time, so why can't you?

Remember, you are in this to be her man, not her platonic friend.
And a man dicks her woman on a regular, period.
 

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@Reboot,

Glad you find it constructive.



The head is the source of the worst problems known to man.

If you could magically solve every problem in your head, you’d be a billionaire inventor-adventurer with a harem of lusty maids doting on you hand and foot (low libido or not). Everything holding you back is something in your head.

As for that lack of fear in your head… what do you think your woman is likely to do if she goes unsatisfied too long?

You may think you have everything tightly controlled, that you’ve chosen well, that she would never do anything you would not want her to do.

But humans are animals, and animals, when they cannot satisfy needs they have one place, will go look someplace else to get those needs sated.



You ought to schedule in some spontaneity. Have date night once a week, and either she can pick where the two of you will go, or you will — but you don’t tell her where it is too far (or at all) in advance. Don’t make it the same place too often unless you both love it (and even then, still schedule in some variety). Try new places, ethnic restaurants, interesting activities.



Well, I can tell you for sex, personally the process for me is:

  1. If I’m thinking about “What if I can’t get hard?”

  2. The very next thought is to tell myself “I don’t care, that’s not my job. My job is just to pleasure her enough and see if I can enjoy myself in the process”

  3. Every time the thought of “Oh no, still not hard” comes back, the next thought of “Don’t care, not my job, my job is simple: pleasure her & enjoy myself doing it” comes in right after

This should appeal to your way of thinking: it is a ROUTINE that you TRAIN yourself to execute.

Once you’ve trained yourself on it, and built this habit, it becomes automatic. You don’t even need to consciously think about it anymore. One part of your brain says, “Oh, but my erection…” and immediately the thought shows up: “I don’t care, I’m focused on her pleasure, and I’ll enjoy myself while giving it.”

I can tell you for me that means I might be enjoying the feel of her pussy as I finger it… I might be rubbing the underside of my dick on her thigh or the outside of her pussy… I might be using my penis to rub her clitoris… I might be rubbing my cock all up and down her body, over her nipples… I might have her suck me off… I might stick it into her soft… I might use it to play with her butt.



You may have a low libido. You should still be able to perform though. Asexual man without a sex drive are capable of performing.

That said, if your libido is low, long-term you are going to be better off with a similarly low libido woman. Otherwise, either she is going to be unhappy because she isn’t getting enough, or you are going to have to perform more often than you’d like… which might make you unhappy. Or maybe you can get into it once she has you going. Depends on you, I suppose.

I discussed this problem here:


You don’t have to jump on your woman, provided her libido is also low enough that she doesn’t miss having a guy jump on her now and again.

That said, when you are feeling it, you may want to break this out sometimes:


You should always at least aim to be able to be responsive to her desires.

You will have a happier life, and a happier woman, and none of these worries about being unable to satisfy her, if you can do that.

Chase
Thank you. Everything you say is relevant, and I am totally aware of it. The problem right now is that she's obviously put up some kind of barrier right now, which prevents her from letting go fully, and she's afraid too, afraid of me touching her, afraid of being frustrated, afraid of having desires, afraid of being disappointed, so she'd rather not have any. This doesn't make it easy for me, I don't want to "force", I'm not like that. And like saying, "force", afterwards, it's hard to let go fully. It creates a certain kind of discomfort. I am in this stage, at a turning point in my relationship, because as you said, if I can't satisfy her, others will. And I find myself stuck, no matter how much I try to repeat what you tell me, it doesn't get any easier. After that, maybe she doesn't stimulate me in the right way, but she still tries to grope me for several minutes, and when it doesn't come, well, she stops.
 

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5 years is usually the death mark of monogamous sex.
I'm sorry if I sound blunt, but that's scientifically verifiable.


You are entering your prime as a man.
She is entering her decline as a woman.
Again, that's not a knock on your choices.
It's just science based on data, and something you have to take into consideration moving forward.


You got sexually bored, because you are a man and need sexual variety.
Nothing wrong with that, it's just our biology and nature.


This does not sound fun...at all.


You realize that's 100% your mental projections.
I'm pretty sure reality is very different.


I'm glad you are bothered by it.
Women cannot be in a sexless relationship for too long.
After a while, they will either dump you or cheat on your ass.

I think you need to break down the solution into 2 phases:

1) health
- do a full round with the doctors. Make every exam possible reagarding male health (including a full testo panel, sperm panel and blood work...check all relevant liver enzimes and also inflamatory markers if possible).
- clean your diet. For a while, avoid all known inflamatory foods, like: peanuts, corn, everything that has white flour (including cookies), sea food, some grains, beer (and any other alcohool thats not wine), sugar, etc. If you have alergies, try to see an alergologist to check for food intolerances. Go light on sweeteners too. All this can influence libido and erections.
- if you are not exercising, do it now, preferably with weights.
- get better sleep. If it means sleeping alone for a while, do it (sleeping together fucks up our sleep and HG production, again science proves it).

2) become sexually available to other women
I will not suggest to open your relationship because you don't seen comfortable with it (it would be the best solution IMO, but I understand it's not for everyone). Instead, do what the other guys suggested and go out alone sometimes. Savor those moments to feel sexually desirable again. Flirt with younger chicks. Allow yourself to be single for a couple of hours. Then come home and fuck her hard. If you have to picture other chicks while you are doing it, so be it. Girls do that all the time, so why can't you?

Remember, you are in this to be her man, not her platonic friend.
And a man dicks her woman on a regular, period.
Thank you. So for you, I have to turn to a urologist? It's hard, even more so when you're a man, to take that first step, especially when you feel like the whole thing is a problem in your head.
 
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