FR Unbelievable success pulled instant date a hb8 actress!!!

[alexhunter8]

Location : Mall , at 6.30 pm .
2 days ago I cold approached a 2nd tier low budget movie actress , I thought she's not an actress . I thought she's just a normal girl . She's new and not popular. Looks wise 8.
Verbals :
I opened " Excuse me , you have a relaxed vibe , I like your vibe ."
She : thank u
Me: " So seems like you do meditation "
She: yes
Me: wow see how exactly I detected !!! ( and gave her a hifi )
Me: ( I asked her about how long and what type of meditation She does )
She: ( told that she has been doing regularly and she does the silent type of meditation)
Me: ( I picked on her word " silent " and told ) " so you prefer silent type meditation so you are an introvert girl". ( damn I made another right cold read )
She: yes I'm introvert
Me: "oh but I don't like introvert girls I like bubbly and energetic extrovert girls".
She : ( smiling, no response for 2 seconds)
She: " what do you do?"
Me : " I love my work and it is about spreading awareness about health and fitness , and it's amazing feel when you give some valuable advice to the people. Clue: it is related to health field, guess my job " ( instead of directly telling I'm a diet & nutritionist doctor and a fitness coach)
She: "so are you gym trainer ? "
Me: "no but kind of"
She: " fitness coach ? "
Me: " yes and nutritionist " ( and gave her hifi)
She: " where are u from ?"
Me: ( again asked her to guess ) " can u guess ? Clue : xyz ".
She : (guessed my hometown correctly. )
Me: " smart" ( again hifi)
Me: " I'm Alex , what's your name ?" ( and gave handshake )
She : " my name is xyz"
Me: " So you seem like a doctor "
She: " no , I am an actress for movies "
Me: " what? Really? Don't lie" ( I intentionally pulled her leg that she's telling lie to spike her emotion)
She: " Really, I'm an actress , I have done 1 movie , if u want search my name on Google "
Me: " damn unbelievable " ( I didn't search her name on phone).
She: " why? do I don't look like a lead actress ? "
Me : " not really , you slightly look like a side heroine or side character ."
( I told this honestly because that's what I felt and her face is actually a 7 ).
She: why so ?
Me: " because lead actress mostly have great looks , but I think you compensate with talent . May be you are more talented actress "
She: ( smiled and acknowledged my above statement and nodded her head yes).
Me: " ok let's have some coffee near by , Come the juices there are amazing " ( and I turned my body and started slowly walking without waiting for her approval)
( dang , she followed me ).
She: " ok , but where is it? I don't have much time "
Me: " near by , here only ".

( while walking I threw some silence because I wanted her to talk , but she kept silent).
( after few seconds I fixed she's not going to talk anything so I asked her questions about her like
" so what's your next goal in movies ",
" who's your favorite director " etc .
" did u take any coaching classes for acting ? " She: " no "
Me: " So you are a naturally talented actor "
She: yes.
( next we talked about some movies , what type movies I like etc ).

A) Actually the mall has Many cafes and I am clueless which one I should take her , because I just told let's have coffee for namesake and I don't know what she likes . + she is running out of time , she already told she doesn't have much time and she has to shop . So I was clueless whether to take her out of the mall or near by cafe .
So finally I asked some guys wheres is the best juice shop and they recommended me one cafe.

B). As we were walking she was one step behind me most of the time and seems like she tried to not touch my hand , so she tried to maintain 1 foot distance.
Also I didn't turn my head many times towards her ( to not give more attention to her).
Also I didn't wait or slow down for her , I was just leading ahead without even looking at her or I was marching on my own .

C ). In the cafe , I showed a table and sat 1st , she sat opposite to me. ( I didn't know whether to assertively insist her to come and sit on my side , I was afraid if it is too early and if I would creep her if I ask her to sit besides me .
D) next she was silent and I kept silent to make her do the investment to talk , but she kept on silence.
So anyway I started asking few questions about her and we discussed about our jobs and travel .
During silences as she was facing against the wall , she turned to the side and kept on looking at the TV.
During silences I looked to the side of her and beyond , I didn't know whether I should keep looking at her if it creeps her out?

I asked her some suggestions for my dressing and fashion , she gave me some suggestions regarding shirts and brands.

She asked me " are you married ? " .
I was shocked and thinking what to say , stuck for 3 seconds
( actually I'm married and in separation ) so didn't know what to reply.
Me : " it's a personal question, why are u asking so early? We have not yet reached that stage " ( I told politely to her face with slight smile).
She: nodded her head yes.
Me: " anyway yes I am married "

(Next she kept on asking the questions below ):
She : " where do u stay " ?
Me: " in an apartment in xyz" .
She : " are you staying alone?"
Me : " yes"
She : " what about your wife ?"
Me: " she's staying in another city called xyz"
She : " is everything fine between both of you two ? " .
Me: " yes we are absolutely fine , I want some me time for myself , so we are staying apart" " I meet my wife sometimes " .

Next she started asking about her workout and diet since I am a nutritionist and fitness coach .
She : " my thighs are bulky , I want to tone them, because in the frame of shooting I look very disproportionate "
Me: " no, don't lose fat . Can I be honest ? Most men love some fat ,
Actually thigh fat is healthy "
She : " but I look disproportionate with hero in shooting frame" .
Me: " I don't know who is making u insecure, but my serious advice : don't lose fat " " your lower body looks good " .
She : " thank you " ( in a submissive tone and smiling) .
Next I discussed about how man fitness coaches are scams and don't have knowledge.
I also gave her workout and diet suggestions.

At the end while walking out ,
Me : " if you want I can guide you with diet and workout, save my number " .
She : ( took her phone and gave me missed call and finally told )
" thank you sir "
While telling final thank you before departing she turned her entire body towards me and slightly bent her head forward and down like a student and addressed me " sir " 🫠.
She nodded her head and her bodylanguage at that moment was extremely " RESPECTFUL and GRATITUDE " towards me .

1. Now what should I 1st text ?
2. Also kindly breakdown and analysis of my entire FR . What I shouldn't have done and what I should have improved ?

 

[Jamster]

2. Also kindly breakdown and analysis of my entire FR . What I shouldn't have done and what I should have improved ?

No one from the board can really answer that - we were not there to see her reaction at each step, to hear the rhythm of the conversation, to see the look in her eye, or to see her body posture.

You can, though. And you should, if you want to imrove.

What happened? What went right? What went wrong? What can be learned?

Good framework for debriefing yourself. (stolen from the U.S. Airforce).

 

[Francis]

I opened " Excuse me

would cut this

Me: ( I picked on her word " silent " and told ) " so you prefer silent type meditation so you are an introvert girl". ( damn I made another right cold read )
She: yes I'm introvert
Me: "oh but I don't like introvert girls I like bubbly and energetic extrovert girls".

kind of surprised you screened, she qualified, and then instead of rewarding, you punished? Mystery Method does something similar, but rewards first (pull) and then push her away. IOI, then IOD, like oh that is good you must find it easier to slip into deeper insights about yourself than an extrovert... but we would never get along... we are too similar (I think his version was like if she is headstrong, he's saying they'll butt heads... but it's also similarity... sneaky! I could swear @POB wrote something like this once too)

She: " why? do I don't look like a lead actress ? "
Me : " not really , you slightly look like a side heroine or side character ."
( I told this honestly because that's what I felt and her face is actually a 7 ).
She: why so ?
Me: " because lead actress mostly have great looks , but I think you compensate with talent . May be you are more talented actress "
She: ( smiled and acknowledged my above statement and nodded her head yes).
Me: " ok let's have some coffee near by , Come the juices there are amazing " ( and I turned my body and started slowly walking without waiting for her approval)
( dang , she followed me ).

more punishing. low self esteem actress? I am getting extreme "asshole neg game" vibes (but negging is meant for prior to the qualifying stage... and once in comfort, the only IOD used is a freeze-out)

She : " is everything fine between both of you two ? " .
Me: " yes we are absolutely fine , I want some me time for myself , so we are staying apart" " I meet my wife sometimes " .

( actually I'm married and in separation ) so didn't know what to reply.

you did not tell her about the separation? not sure if it's better to convey fully married, which slots you as a lover to her only (cheating)... vs. separated means you are single and makes it a lot less clear cut what you may want from her.

At the end while walking out ,
Me : " if you want I can guide you with diet and workout, save my number " .

but then you framed yourself as a provider... a supportive friend helping her for free.


I am kind of at a loss with this whole report... thanks for posting though, it is cool to see detailed interactions of dialogue for sure. a lot of report skip right over the first couple minutes after the opener and focus more on movement steps than the repartee stage and the formation of her initial impression, etc.

I don't know who here has spent time in India and had success. Maybe @Swati would have some ideas... I don't know if he's been there but I think he may have a better grasp of different dynamics, especially being more tough with the girls.

 

[alexhunter8]

would cut this

kind of surprised you screened, she qualified, and then instead of rewarding, you punished? Mystery Method does something similar, but rewards first (pull) and then push her away. IOI, then IOD, like oh that is good you must find it easier to slip into deeper insights about yourself than an extrovert... but we would never get along... we are too similar (I think his version was like if she is headstrong, he's saying they'll butt heads... but it's also similarity... sneaky! I could swear @POB wrote something like this once too)

more punishing. low self esteem actress? I am getting extreme "asshole neg game" vibes (but negging is meant for prior to the qualifying stage... and once in comfort, the only IOD used is a freeze-out)


you did not tell her about the separation? not sure if it's better to convey fully married, which slots you as a lover to her only (cheating)... vs. separated means you are single and makes it a lot less clear cut what you may want from her.

but then you framed yourself as a provider... a supportive friend helping her for free.


I am kind of at a loss with this whole report... thanks for posting though, it is cool to see detailed interactions of dialogue for sure. a lot of report skip right over the first couple minutes after the opener and focus more on movement steps than the repartee stage and the formation of her initial impression, etc.

I don't know who here has spent time in India and had success. Maybe @Swati would have some ideas... I don't know if he's been there but I think he may have a better grasp of different dynamics, especially being more tough with the girls.

Did I fuck up very bad at the end ?
Especially when I said I am married ? And when I took her number on the pretext of guiding her ?
Yes I should have atleast took her number on the pretext of meeting her again over some activity .
But did I fuck up very bad in the above 2 ?
Anyway and it's already 2 days over after number close , what should I text her 1st ?

 

[Francis]

Me: " anyway yes I am married "

(Next she kept on asking the questions below ):
She : " where do u stay " ?
Me: " in an apartment in xyz" .
She : " are you staying alone?"
Me : " yes"
She : " what about your wife ?"

the above seems pretty good!

She : " is everything fine between both of you two ? " .
Me: " yes we are absolutely fine , I want some me time for myself , so we are staying apart" " I meet my wife sometimes " .

Next she started asking about her workout and diet since I am a nutritionist and fitness coach .

the above seems flipped to pretty bad. however, she DID talk about her thighs next.

but obviously you weren't just approaching her to be her friend. again, I really don't know.

personally I would text her something with innuendo to communicate a sexual frame. like hi actress, it was a pleasure running into you... I hope your [whatever] went well this week. I was just stretching and was thinking maybe that would be a good first start to get your thighs more toned while keeping their thickness.

I have a tendency to text a little cringe though... it can slip into too high attainability and sexual forwardness if you're not careful to keep it deniable, just hinting...

then just zip it and gauge her reaction... like a ping... no soft close yet. but moving it towards meeting up near your place (would probably be ok to hint the date spot is right near you to subtly imply intent... she did ask where you live which is a DTF sign)... showing her stretches could be good for the pull, then go into massage.

 

[Francis]

thighs more toned

note I assume you know "toning" is bullshit... there is muscle size and fat amount... but important to note you want to avoid actually being useful, but you might have to maintain your frame for now, since you set it.

 

[OldGuy]

You need to be prepared for the single/married question. From you description I am not sure whether you are working out of town for a short time, looking to find someone else, or avoiding accepting that she has someone else.

 

[Will_V]

Anyway and it's already 2 days over after number close , what should I text her 1st ?

The icebreaker text is something you send an hour or two after meeting her. What are you waiting two days for?

 

[Swati]

I don't know who here has spent time in India and had success. Maybe @Swati would have some ideas... I don't know if he's been there but I think he may have a better grasp of different dynamics, especially being more tough with the girls.

not Indian nor from that region.

 

[alexhunter8]

The icebreaker text is something you send an hour or two after meeting her. What are you waiting two days for?

I'm waiting what's the best ice breaker 1st text?
Or atleast better one

 

[alexhunter8]

You need to be prepared for the single/married question. From you description I am not sure whether you are working out of town for a short time, looking to find someone else, or avoiding accepting that she has someone else.

Can you elaborate?
I partially understand but...

 

[Francis]

not Indian nor from that region.

Ah ok I see your article author photo/bio. For some reason Swati always sounded Indian to me.

 

[OldGuy]

Can you elaborate?
I partially understand but...

Should it be"
1. I am here on a 5 month work assignment, then going back to her. or
2. I am here for a job and she will be moving here as soon as we get it organizrs, or
3. I am moving on and will eventually divorce her, or
4. She kicked me out, but we will reconcile, or
5. She has a new lover, but I have not accepted losing her.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

Well done, congrats

 

[Absolutely Human]

I don't see anyone saying this so I may be off but...

She : " where do u stay " ?
Me: " in an apartment in xyz" .
She : " are you staying alone?"
Me : " yes"

She asks you that and you don’t try to pull her to your place?

To me these are extreme IOIs.

Good job btw.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

I don't see anyone saying this so I may be off but...



She asks you that and you don’t try to pull her to your place?

To me these are extreme IOIs.

Good job btw.

1000%.

 

[alexhunter8]

Thanks I lot.
The surprising thing is I didn't watch any pickup course so far.
Not even " the naturals " or " pimp " the Julian by RSD.
I just saw couple of youtube videos from Austin Dunham and london day game model that's it.
Seems like I'm a very talented natural gamer .
If I get more structure and advanced refinements from you all , I will be number 1 slayer on the streets

I don't see anyone saying this so I may be off but...



She asks you that and you don’t try to pull her to your place?

To me these are extreme IOIs.

Good job btw.

 

[OldGuy]

She asked me " are you married ? " .
I was shocked and thinking what to say , stuck for 3 seconds
( actually I'm married and in separation ) so didn't know what to reply.
Me : " it's a personal question, why are u asking so early? We have not yet reached that stage " ( I told politely to her face with slight smile).
She: nodded her head yes.
Me: " anyway yes I am married "

(Next she kept on asking the questions below ):
She : " where do u stay " ?
Me: " in an apartment in xyz" .
She : " are you staying alone?"
Me : " yes"
She : " what about your wife ?"
Me: " she's staying in another city called xyz"
She : " is everything fine between both of you two ? " .
Me: " yes we are absolutely fine , I want some me time for myself , so we are staying apart" " I meet my wife sometimes " .

You lost her here. Were you trying to pick her up or just a lonely guy missing your wife. Your last line should have been "we ae separated" and refuse details. Then invite her to your place. (Yes, it is quick, but need to follow her time line.) When they just want to have sex, they just want to have sex. When she switched the subject to fitness, she had given up on the lay.

 

[alexhunter8]

You lost her here. Were you trying to pick her up or just a lonely guy missing your wife. Your last line should have been "we ae separated" and refuse details. Then invite her to your place. (Yes, it is quick, but need to follow her time line.) When they just want to have sex, they just want to have sex. When she switched the subject to fitness, she had given up on the lay.

Btw were u sure she wanted to fuck ?
1.Just because she asked me whether I'm married could be due to me appearing bit older like 35 yr old or may be she was just curious whether I'm married .
2. And she asked me where I stay... which may mean she just wanted to know which city or area I'm located . She didn't specifically ask me " where exactly I Stay like an apartment ".
And she didn't ask whether I'm alone ,
Actually I told her in a flow that I'm staying in an apartment and alone in a flow.
So now what do you think?
We can't be sure she asked indirectly with intention to fuck . Might be or might not be is what I think .
Forgive me because I didn't remember the exact conversation when I typed . But nevertheless what I typed conversation in FR is 90% accurate.
The point is we are not sure whether she asked without sexual intention just as general get to know or was she actually giving hints to fuck ?
* also kindly check out my 1st FR , in which we interacted in the cafe . That part gives u more clarity of what happened

 

[OldGuy]

She was checking you out. When I said there was n problem with your wife (instead of separated), she gave up on you as a lover or boyfriend, and looked for free advice on toning.